Politics and religion.

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

I hope some day you will be able to learn how to judge the actions of a person and the words of the person making a judgement about them.

Good luck.

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Well, we all never do stop learning, eh?

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If this wasn't so creepy, I'd laugh?

It was a real, nice spontaneous moment when the Phillie's fan hugged his daughter after she tossed back that foul ball that he caught.

I can see the brain trust in the WH thinking, then sending BO's daughter out to show what a family man he is.:rolleyes:


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bvonlove....450b092209.jpg

Daddy,
Let me give you a hug, since you have 'dropped the ball' playing games instead of playing prez!!!

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

It was a real, nice spontaneous moment when the Phillie's fan hugged his daughter after she tossed back that foul ball that he caught.

I can see the brain trust in the WH thinking, then sending BO's daughter out to show what a family man he is.:rolleyes:


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bvonlove....450b092209.jpg

Daddy,
Let me give you a hug, since you have 'dropped the ball' playing games instead of playing prez!!!

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Awww Richard - that wasn't nice. :( From what I've seen, he appears to be a good family man. At least he should get good marks for that...;)

Ick.

And some people wonder why racism is still suspected.

I have no idea who the baseball player is who hugged his daughter. Not everyone has the time or inclination to watch games.

But to suggest anyone else who then hugs his daughter does it for political reasons.

Ick

Ick

Ick.

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Ick.

And some people wonder why racism is still suspected.

I have no idea who the baseball player is who hugged his daughter. Not everyone has the time or inclination to watch games.

But to suggest anyone else who then hugs his daughter does it for political reasons.

Ick

Ick

Ick.

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Yeah, I'll bet they made that poor kid practice jumping up on her Dad
all afternoon. :rolleyes:

LOL,

Bush was Hitler.

What do dems and the Taliban have in common?

The really nasty ones live in caves.

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Or should I have said "muffed the punt"?????

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Thank you Political Jesus for making me born with the sense of humor.

Amen.

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

LOL,

Bush was Hitler.

What do dems and the Taliban have in common?

The really nasty ones live in caves.

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Or should I have said "muffed the punt"?????

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Thank you Political Jesus for making me born with the sense of humor.

Amen.

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I would like to see ONE TIME anyone suggested Bush loved his daughters to score political points.

Not funny in any way shape or form.

If you think that is funny....you were NOT...NOT born with a sense of humor. Something else - but not humor.

Did you think it funny when Limbaugh insulted Chelsea Clinton?

Do you think it is funny to stick firecrackers in frogs? Same "humor."

Ick.

Check out the background behind the speakers at the UN.


I grew up with that tile pattern...Retro 60's acid trip.

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

It was a real, nice spontaneous moment when the Phillie's fan hugged his daughter after she tossed back that foul ball that he caught.

I can see the brain trust in the WH thinking, then sending BO's daughter out to show what a family man he is.:rolleyes:


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bvonlove....450b092209.jpg

Daddy,
Let me give you a hug, since you have 'dropped the ball' playing games instead of playing prez!!!

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Ild wager thats pretty spot on. But shame on you RICHARD, the kids are suposed to be off limits. Unless they're Republicans then let the games begin!!!:rolleyes:

Ah the lefties hatered for Limbaugh, I cant stand listening to him but I hope he stays on the air for many years to come.

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

LOL,

Bush was Hitler.

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LOL,

Link.

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

And some people wonder why racism is still suspected.

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Not sure where racism comes in from this...


But it is hard to fake ones love for their children. I think our President is a ego-maniac, extremely Marxist in his politics and dangerous for our country. But I also believe that he truly loves and cares for his children. Short of mental illness, it is practically impossible NOT to love your children with every fiber of your soul.

As for possibly hamming it up for the cameras??? He IS a politican after all. Its what they do.

http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2...jenna-dadx.jpg

All this time I thought this a photo of Bush showing his pride in and love for his daughter.

Thanks to PetTalk I now know it is fake and he is just copying an overpaid athlete. Being a typical politician. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Marxist???? Oh that is so laughable. Marxist???

And how impressed I am to know that RICHARD, you did your acid trips in a place with malachite marble! No tie-died wall hangings for you!

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Marxist???? Oh that is so laughable. Marxist???

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4...eature=channel


"The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth."


Etc...

If that is not Marxism, what is?

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

If that is not Marxism, what is?

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Groucho?

:confused::eek:

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Who the eff brought racism into this conversation?;):rolleyes::D

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

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Who the eff brought racism into this conversation?;):rolleyes::D

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You.:D

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4...eature=channel


"The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth."


Etc...

If that is not Marxism, what is?

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Yes, I listened to the recording (and could tell where it had been edited.)

BTW...Did you know Reagan was an anarchist? He wanted to do away with government! Anyone who believes Obama is a marxist will believe Reagan is an anarchist....

ROTFLMAO!!!! You are really so funny!

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Yes, I listened to the recording (and could tell where it had been edited.)

BTW...Did you know Reagan was an anarchist? He wanted to do away with government! Anyone who believes Obama is a marxist will believe Reagan is an anarchist....

ROTFLMAO!!!! You are really so funny!

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Of course, attack the source. There are plenty more than this one.

Regan wanted to LIMIT government, not eliminate it.

Laugh it up. Spin this how you wish.... The man, on tape, speaking from his heart. You have something to counter this? Share it. If all you can do is attack the source... :rolleyes:

If the stimulus bills were not Marxist in nature.... If a "progressive" income tax system is not Marxist in nature.... (Only people with income over $250,000...etc...)

Yeah... Laugh it up. ;)

Source.

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Originally Posted by Walter E Williams

A MINORITY VIEW

BY WALTER WILLIAMS

RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2009



Lying Propaganda



Michael Moore's new film, "Capitalism: A Love Story" will be released next month. I've neither seen nor read reviews of the film, except for a short piece in the London Telegraph (9/6/09) titled "Michael Moore film calls capitalism evil." Aware of Michael Moore's previous films, I know that it will be at best a misleading story about capitalism. So let's do some defensive mental preparation, not about the film but what is and what is not capitalism.

Capitalism is an economic system characterized by private ownership and control over the means of production. The distribution of goods and services and their prices are mainly determined by competition in a free market. Under such a system the primary job of government is to protect private property, enforce contracts and ensure rule of law.

There has never been a pure free market capitalistic system just as there has never been a pure communist or socialist system, where there is government ownership of the means of production and each individual has equal access to society's resources. However, we can rank economies as to whether they are closer to capitalism or closer to communism or socialism. If one ranked countries according to whether they were closer to the capitalistic end of the spectrum or the socialistic or communistic end, then ranked countries according to per capita GDP and finally rank countries according to Freedom House's "Map of Freedom in the World," he would find a pattern that is by no means a coincidence. The people in those countries closer to the capitalist end of the economic spectrum have far greater income and enjoy greater human rights protections than those toward the socialist and communist end.

According to the London Telegraph article, Moore's film features priests who say capitalism is anti-Christian by failing to protect the poor. This is pure nonsense and revealed as such by asking, "If you're an unborn spirit, condemned by God to a life of poverty but allowed to choose the country in which to be poor, would you choose a country near the communist end of the economic spectrum or the capitalist end?" If you chose the United States, you'd find that according to the government surveys, the typical "poor" American has cable or satellite TV, two color TVs, and a DVD player or VCR. He has air conditioning, a car, a microwave, a refrigerator, a stove, and a clothes washer and dryer, and whether he has health insurance or not, he is able to obtain medical care when needed. Try to find that in Cuba, Russia, China or North Korea. If we buy into the nonsense of Moore's priests, the world's poor people are incredibly stupid. Whether fleeing legally or illegally, their destination country is likely to be closer to capitalism than their departure country.

Most of our country's serious problems can be laid at the feet of Congress and the White House and not at capitalism. Take the financial crisis. One-third of the $15 trillion of mortgages in existence in 2008 are owned, or securitized by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Ginnie Mae, the Federal Housing and the Veterans Administration. Banks didn't mind making risky loans and Wall Street buyers didn't mind buying these repackaged loans because they assumed that they would be guaranteed by the federal government: read bailout by taxpayers. Under a capitalist system, financial institutions would not have been intimidated or encouraged into making risky loans and neither would they have been bailed out if they did so.

Social Security, Medicare and its coverage of prescription drugs have an unfunded liability that exceeds $100 trillion. When those roosters come home to roost, they will make the financial meltdown we've been though look like child's play.

Not withstanding all of the demagoguery, it is capitalism not socialism is that made us a great country and its socialism that will be our undoing.

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Again,
WHO brought racism into the conversation?


IF you want to paint me with the color of a racist, prove it by quoting or give me a link to my so called 'sin'.

Call me stupid, disrespectful or a smart arse. You'll get away with that.
Now you have to defend your allegation that I brought race into thread.

LOL, I have had my run-ins with 'whitey' during my time on earth and that doesn't bother me. As a matter of fact, you could go back and edit your post and save yourself the hassle of getting called out about your posting....

I will not bother to even ask for an apology, because some people think that I am being uber sensitive about the whole deal and I know that you cannot get blood from a turnip or common sense from someone who doesn't like baseball.....

Here's a little hint about playing the race card game.

Fold your hand before you get to the point of yelling RACISM.

You make yourself look like a piker and you end up losing a little credibility in the process.

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Barack Hussein Obama-

He wants everyone to forget racism
Including the people who suspect it in every thing they read.


MMMM MMMM MMMMM!

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Just finished watching the Ben Netanyahu speech to the UN.

Boy,

We should really pay attention to the people we put into office.

This was a perfect admonition to the rest of the world. He challenged every world leader-something that cannot be done because when your leader is always apologizing for 'mistakes'
we made.

BN just put on tape his wishes for peace in the Mid East. He wants to be met halfway. Let's see how the eff ups react.

It gets very taxing to hear politicians not want to dip their hands into the dish becaue we are afraid of being 'misread' as far as our military actions.

Let's do it this way.

Pick any topic that two governments disagree on.

Let them take 20,000 men and their equipment and we'll do the same. (we can adjust the numbers for the countries who have small armies.)
We'll map out a nice hundred square mile box and see who kicks the most
arse. Who ever wins, gets THEIR way.

Pu it on pay-per-view and let R Lee Ermey be the divine Head of TV War Games.

Carry On!

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Any chance of us driving a few cruise missles up A-Mad's little Hitler, rear end?

Heh heh heh. Ignorant little monkey.

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

Come on ES. You are smarter than this. You MUST know the difference between being in a position of authority and giving an order and political opinion speech?

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But anyway... No answer to my question? Would you support LAW making opinion pundits somehow legally culpable for actions of their listeners?

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I thought this topic would make for interesting cocktail party conversation. And so I brought it up at a party.

I was asked this question....if people are not responsible for the actions their words incite people to...why is Charles Manson in prison? He did not kill anyone - he incited and encouraged others to do so.

I think most of us would agree that prison is the place Manson belongs - at best. He was not a "person in a position of authority" (of course, neither was Hilter for most of his hideous career. And still people followed his words and engaged in heinous acts.)

So the next question became...if a "pundit" is not responsible for the actions of their listeners by virtue of being a "pundit"...can you call yourself a "pundit" and therefore escape responsibility?

So I remain convinced - people should be responsible for the words they speak as much as for the actions they do.

Doesn't mean they can't speak -- just means they have to be responsible.

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

Of course, attack the source. There are plenty more than this one.

Regan wanted to LIMIT government, not eliminate it.

Laugh it up. Spin this how you wish.... The man, on tape, speaking from his heart. You have something to counter this? Share it. If all you can do is attack the source... :rolleyes:

If the stimulus bills were not Marxist in nature.... If a "progressive" income tax system is not Marxist in nature.... (Only people with income over $250,000...etc...)

Yeah... Laugh it up. ;)

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Thank you...I will continue to laugh it up. :D:D:D

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

I was asked this question....if people are not responsible for the actions their words incite people to...why is Charles Manson in prison? He did not kill anyone - he incited and encouraged others to do so.

I think most of us would agree that prison is the place Manson belongs - at best. He was not a "person in a position of authority" (of course, neither was Hilter for most of his hideous career. And still people followed his words and engaged in heinous acts.)

So the next question became...if a "pundit" is not responsible for the actions of their listeners by virtue of being a "pundit"...can you call yourself a "pundit" and therefore escape responsibility?

So I remain convinced - people should be responsible for the words they speak as much as for the actions they do.

Doesn't mean they can't speak -- just means they have to be responsible.

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So you are comparing Glenn Beck to Charles Manson? Awesome. Make your case and bring it before the DA. I DARE you.

This kind of crap is why people like you never get what they want.

I LOVE it that you think "us" such simpletons.

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Thank you...I will continue to laugh it up. :D:D:D

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Awesome. Your lack of an answer says it all.

YOUR man is on record confirming his belief in wealth re-distribution. You "laugh" at me.

:rolleyes:

Weak as always ES.

I would not offer a real answer if I were you either....

Anti Americans at home and around the world rejoiced, danced in the streets and laughed at our misery 8 years ago. Granted some, like my brother who believed it was an inside job, grieved with the rest of us.

Is Obama our Nero? Will he and his supporters laugh as we go down in flames?

http://zdavatz.files.wordpress.com/2...ictures_2.jpeg

Link.

Blue, I am so glad there are not many out there, who think like you do......Your thoughts scare me. Oh my gosh.

Stay up there, in the middle of nowhere, please!
:o:o

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

Awesome. Your lack of an answer says it all.

YOUR man is on record confirming his belief in wealth re-distribution. You "laugh" at me.

:rolleyes:

Weak as always ES.

I would not offer a real answer if I were you either....

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How does one answer irrational statements?

Barak Obama is my president as I am a citizen of the United States of America. He is your president as well. You think he is a marxist because he talks about redistribution of weath. I did not hear him advocate it.

But then - that is what people like you do. If you repeat things enough some people will begin to believe. I see no evidence of "marxist" so how can I refute something that isn't there.

Insult me all you want PS...after all - it is what you do best! And far easier than...say thinking...

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

I LOVE it that you think "us" such simpletons.

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Glad I make you happy.

What was I thinking - you might want to stretch your mind. So sorry!

You continue to channel Sean Hannity - seems to be the best you can do. Show me where I suggested Glenn Beck and Charles Manson were the same? Or that Glenn Beck has committed a crime.

I am talking about personal responsiblity. And people accepting responsibility.

Obviously you do not believe that people should be responsible for what they say and do.

Got it.

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Originally Posted by sasvermont

Blue, I am so glad there are not many out there, who think like you do......Your thoughts scare me. Oh my gosh.

Stay up there, in the middle of nowhere, please!
:o:o

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My tinfoil hat isnt as large or as thick as the majority of the TFHC. Im very mild in my thinking,

There are plenty of folks in your state that are waiting to confront the current adminstration.

Hey,

If you don't know the words, just hum along!!!!!


Mmm, mmmm, mmmmmm

Barack Hussein Obama.

He'll ignore the problems with Iran,
and may send troops to Afghanistan!

Mmm, mmm mmmmmmm!

Barack Hussein Obama.

Iran shoots off a pair of tactical missles
While his foreign policy continues to fizzle!

Mmm, mmm mmmmmmm!

Barack Hussein Obama

Don't question his policy, or request health care stasis
You'll find yourself regarded as racist!!!!

Mmm, mmm mmmmmmm!

Barack Hussein Obama

Who writes songs for kids?, it's a great pity.
The song is bland, lyrics are TERRIBLE!:confused:

Mmm, mmm mmmmmmm!

From Politico -

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Independent candidates are poised to run serious campaigns for governor in at least a half-dozen states, a development that threatens Democratic fortunes in some of the bluest and most progressive-minded states in the nation.

In New Jersey, where Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine is seeking a second term in November, polls suggest an independent candidate is carving a sizable portion of voters out of his hide.

In two other reliably Democratic states, Massachusetts and Rhode Island, well-known politicians running as independents could significantly undermine Democratic chances in 2010, if not flat-out win. Credible third-party candidates are also mulling over bids in a handful of other states that have open seat governor’s races next year — including Minnesota and Maine, both of which have a recent history of electing third-party governors.

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

Again,

Any chance of us driving a few cruise missles up A-Mad's little Hitler, rear end?

Heh heh heh. Ignorant little monkey.

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Monkey? Nice.

And you ask me to justify my remarks.

Really.....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

So every lefty, sorry moderate, including my father, stepmom, and brother, who laughed at and passed on these images of Bush....

http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress...bush_chimp.jpg

Are all racist.

Anybody else find it funny that a white person is implying that a Hispanic is racist?

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Originally Posted by blue

Anybody else find it funny that a white person is implying that a Hispanic is racist?

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When did THIS happen?:eek:

That is not nice, not nice at all.:mad::eek:;)

Fixed News seems to think that hispanics (and blacks) can be racists...
Fox News

But then again...is that the channel that Glenn Beck is on...the guy who calls Obama a racist?

During her last visit to Italy Nancy Pelosi was granted a visit with the Pope.

The Pope leans towards Mrs. Pelosi and said, "Do you know that with one little wave of my hand I can make every person in this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display, like that of your followers, but go deep into their hearts and they'll forever speak of this day and rejoice!"

Pelosi replied, "I seriously doubt that. With one little wave of your hand? Show me."


So the Pope slapped her.:D

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

During her last visit to Italy Nancy Pelosi was granted a visit with the Pope.

The Pope leans towards Mrs. Pelosi and said, "Do you know that with one little wave of my hand I can make every person in this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display, like that of your followers, but go deep into their hearts and they'll forever speak of this day and rejoice!"

Pelosi replied, "I seriously doubt that. With one little wave of your hand? Show me."


So the Pope slapped her.:D

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I seem to recall that one from a few years back, featuring Hillary Clinton instead of NP.

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Originally Posted by phesina

I seem to recall that one from a few years back, featuring Hillary Clinton instead of NP.

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Hokay, let's put Biden in insead.

Using Fox news to make it OK to call minorities racist, and then implying that Fox news is biased. Is that the pot calling the kettle black?

For anybody who thinks Fox is unfairly reporting the news, I can reccomend any number of books from long time lefty and CBS insider Bernard Goldberg. Link.

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Originally Posted by blue

Using Fox news to make it OK to call minorities racist, and then implying that Fox news is biased. Is that the pot calling the kettle black?

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I flip the channels and I 'watch' a little of the stuff that I do not normally pay attention to.

There are some people, newsreaders, news programs and channels who have pushed the idea that BO's popularity decline is part of a racist ideal in the country.:rolleyes:

I heard an audio clip of a internet talk show where Adam Carrola and John Salley -the former a TV/radio show host and Salley a former pro basketball player- were discussing politics.

Salley asked Carrola "Why do white people hate BO now?" Apparently JS heard the hens on The View talking about BO's falling approval numbers and it angered him leading him to the assumption that all of "white America" hates the prez.

It has nothing to do with white, black or anything like that.....

IT's all a matter of politicians talking smack, getting elected and being called out about what they promised to us then and what they have delivered up to now.

Instead of staying at home, closing Gitmo, sending/bringing home troops, working on a HCR bill or battling racism at home, BO is out trying to get his home town the Olympics in '16-

LOL, Oh, I may be a racist because I want my president to stick around the house and work, not travel all around the planet, tape five segments for Sunday talk shows on 'company' time, fly around the country selling out the people that elected him to lead the country, not ignore it and sell it out by apologizing to every country for us being jerks.

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I was listening to Rachel Madcow and two times in the last few days she
has been touting ACORN and what the wonderful work they have done. (Tonight's show was -The Rachel Maddow Show investigates the truth about the lies about ACORN). Of course, they might have done something good in all the time that they have been around, but I think the idea of giving 'pimps and prostitutes' loans for houses and excuses for importing 13 year old hookers is a little beyond belief. So what are the lies?

When are we going to get the story from the people who worked the offices and offered people ideas on how to dodge any scrutiny by the feds or local police?:confused:;)

I am waiting for the 'racism' angle in the case of the ACORN tapes. Really.