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Yeah Bowser! Good news on the white coat visit! :D
What can I add but my awe and admiration for you Phred!
I am so glad this got cross posted for all to see and share. I have cried, smiled, laughed, and cried some more. This is truly amazing and really shows how much PT'ers care for animals and for each other.
AMAZING! Absolutely AMAZING!!!!
Bowser you are one handsome and extremely lucky gent and I'm so glad that it looks like you will have a great and healthy future. Everyone involved is so wonderful but Phred you take the cake! There are no words that can express how wonderful, kind, and selfless you are.
AMAZING! Absolutely AMAZING!!!!
:( :mad:
And in another, unrelated thread...Quote:
Originally posted by moosmom
So, you're telling us that Midnight is now staying in a deplorable place where he'll be forced to live outside and NOT be fed???
That's the impression I'm getting. In the beginning of the thread, you stated this old lady was starving BOTH Bowser and Midnight.
So, WHY in HELL was Midnight left behind???
I know he took off. I don't know of ANY cat that voluntarily goes into a cat carrier. But her surely could've been trapped. :mad:
Forced to live outside with no food, water or shelter a furrever home??? HARDLY!! :mad:
I find the fact that Midnight was left behind VERY upsetting, as I would've been happy to meet up with Phred and take Midnight in as a foster till a REAL furrever home could be found. :mad:
Which generated this question...Quote:
Originally posted by moosmom
Carla,
They look wonderful!!!
So glad they got a furrrever home,
unlike ANOTHER cat who was left behind. :(
Great job!! Give them kisses and headbumpies from me.
Donna
================================================Quote:
Originally posted...
Which other cat? Or just in general.
...
I've tried to start this "reply" a dozen times with different
"slants" - here goes the LAST attempt at a civil reply...
I do NOT like having to defend myself and/or others from coments made by an individual, who might have meant well or was comvinced there has been a glaring oversight or an apparent cruelelty comitted;
but who in actuality has NO CLUE WHATSOEVER of even SOME of the facts surrounding the Kat known as Midnight.
EVERY ONE of the individuals Directly Involved with the Rescues of Bowser and Midnight spent a LOT of Time discussing the pros and cons of at least 4 or 5 possible solutions for Midnight, da Kat!!
Those Directly Involved in the Rescue included:
. Zippy (Grandaughter of GranPaw)
. Zippy's MOM (daughter of GranPaw)
. Zippy's Cousin (another Grandaughter of GranPaw)
. Dawg Ketcher Butch
. Back-Up Rescue/Foster Laurie
. and ME (Phred)
I'm sorry we didn't have time to call a formal Pet Talk Family Meeting
to debate all the Facts, pros & cons, opinions and desires...
But Bowser was on a SHORT string.
Midnight , da Kat, has been on a "short string" for her entire life!
Since KittenHood, da Kat has had an "Attitude" towards 2-Leggers!
Family, friends, and visitors to GranPaw's Place were warned >>>
Don't mess wiff da Kat! She Don't LIKE Humans!
She's *QUITE* Able to Fend for Herself - she's done that for
all of her adult life! She's probably more "wild" than a Feral cat!
It was agreed to by ALL the Rescue Team that the BEST resolution
for da KAT was for her to STAY WHERE SHE WAS ~
as Long As she was NOT going to be "eliminated" by the
current tenant in the house!
And since NO ONE had been able to contact said tenant -
we had no knowledge that SHE wanted to or was willing to Keep da Kat.
OK - enuff of this.
I said a lot more than I planned to.
This WAS a Very Happie Thread...
we were following the Tails of Bowser...
This "discussion" of da Kat has thrown a wet blanket on the Bowser Tails.
Let's agree to continue with Bowser's Tails ...
or I'm outta here!
If necessary, I can continue with Bowser's Quest for his
FurrEver Home with Zippy via e-mail and phone.
Sorry to ALL if this seems harsh, rude, unfriendly, nasty,
or whatever anyone cares to call MY Attitude...
But I'm hurt, offended, and upset that some would think that
I (and ALL the others involved) would have anything but
the BEST Possible Outcome for da Kat in our plans.
We DID have a PLAN - and Midnight's "future" is probably a
Lot Better NOW than it's been for the last several years!
/s/ :( Phred
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12:30 AM *EDIT* ~
Please NOTE that what I "quoted" and wrote ^ABOVE^ has NOT been changed
at all with this "edit"!
As sometimes happens when a "controversy" arises...
"Posts" are DELETED without further comment or explanation
by their author.
Such is the situation here in this Thread...
The post I wrote ^ABOVE^ had a "reply" by "moosmom" which remained
for some to see, but was then DELETED without further comment.
Now some folks are wondering WHAT is he "upset" about.
HERE"S what I (and possibly others) am "upset" about >>>>>>>>
Posted by: "moosmom"
Personal feline concierge
Posts: 4916
And you came to that conclusion HOW??? Let me see.Quote:
Midnight's "future" is probably a Lot Better NOW
than it's been for the last several years
Hmmmmmm, being starved and left out in the cold
vs. being trapped and taken to a foster home
vs. being left where he is and starved by an uncaring, irresponsible pet owner.
Somehow I just can't see how much BETTER his future will be.
I was MORE than willing to offer him a foster home till a furrever
home could be found.
So in other words,
"It's only a cat, let him go,
he'll survive on his own." :mad: :mad:
Your buddy Butch shirked his responsibility as the Animal Control Officer
and his duty to protect innocent animals,
by throwing his hands up in the air and saying "Oh well".
I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, offend anyone or
remove the "spotlight" off your heroism. And I certainly
wasn't asking you to defend yourself.
But someone has to speak up for Midnight,
as he certainly can't speak for himself.
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Followed by "moosmom" signature.
((huggles Phred tightly and kisses his forehead))
I was going to say my 2 kibble worth, but I'm not going to.. I'm just going to bite my tongue, and stand beside Phred.
Phred, I am behind you 100%, you went ABOVE AND BEYOND what most people would have done...i applaud you...
So on with what this happy thread was all about...an angel diguised as a retired fireman, and one very lucky pup!!
(((HUGS))) Phred!!
Robyn
To clarify:Quote:
Originally posted by moosmom
In the beginning of the thread, you stated this old lady was starving BOTH Bowser and Midnight.
The old lady (my aunt, 26 yrs old, btw) who left the animals, is no longer in the picture. I don't know where she is, no one in the family knows where she is... only that she went back to an abusive spouse, there are 3-4 warrants out for her arrest, and drugs are involved. (Yes, she's one of those relatives... and I wish they'd add a few more warrants and/or charges for animal abuse.)
The lady who took Midnight is either living in my aunt's old rent place OR is a neighbor; no one's quite sure.
Midnight is NOT a pleasant cat, to say the least. I do not say this lightly as I am admitedly more of a cat ( & bunny!) person than a dog person. She is VERY aggressive and will attack, unprovoked. I don't know what made her like that, she has been mean since I've first met her. I don't know if she was feral and brought into the house, I don't know if she was abused in a previous home. I honestly have no clue.
I will not walk into a room with Midnight because I have been attacked without just cause. She has attacked my grandfather, again without cause, and HUNG FROM HIS WRIST BY HER TEETH causing him to go to the hospital because they could not get the bleeding stopped. (And there's actually alot more details to go w/ that story but I won't be drug into it.)
I am livid and absolutely heart broken that people are finding doubt in judgement of 2 long-time, well-trusted (or so I thought) members of pet talkers.
~Edited for spelling only.~
Ditto!!! Phred, you went way above & beyond, and are deserving of NO criticism.Quote:
Originally posted by Christiansmommy
Phred, I am behind you 100%, you went ABOVE AND BEYOND what most people would have done...i applaud you...
So on with what this happy thread was all about...an angel diguised as a retired fireman, and one very lucky pup!!
(((HUGS))) Phred!!
Robyn
{{Hugs to you, Cinder, Smokey, Boots da kat, and Bowser!!!}}
OK, did you *NOT* see this part of Phred's post?
*Midnight, da KAT, took one look at Butch, da Dawg Ketcher's West Virginnie style Porta Prison and announced to all that She was STAYIN wiff da Ole Lady at Bowser's old Homestead!*
Midnight is obviously an outdoor cat.. Midnight also apparently is untrusting of humans.. Midnight chose where she wanted to stay..
And before you start on me saying something ridiculous like your previous statement of "it's only a cat, let him go, he'll survive on his own.", I've had cats all my life and I love them as much as dogs.. but if a cat does not want to be crated and taken away, you know as well as I do that it won't be... I would rather Butch abide by Midnights' wishes to leave her there, then have him try to do something she didn't want to do and be clawed to bits..
She wasn't 'left behind'... She is an independant cat who stuck her claws in the earth and announced she wasn't leaving... and they have the right to do that, just as humans have the same right. And until we are able to gain the mind control superpower and control the animal's mind, it's going to stay that way.
What Phred did was above and beyond, I don't even know if I would be able to do such a thing, even if I could drive.. Coming in and accusing him of not caring for a kitty is just.. plain wrong..
*edited to correct 'to' instead of 'ot' LOL!*
Well, Zip, I have read Phred's response very carefully and now yours.
I know you...........have met you.........you stayed in my home.
I wouldn't question your judgement for one second. And let's take a long look at Phred's track record........and Laurie's...........back through all of the years on Pet Talk.
SQUEEKY CLEAN.........DEVOTED........LOVING........CARING. ......
I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON.
I have said my piece with the intent being peace.
Love to all three of you.
I don't know, I heard 'feral' cats can be more dangerous then some dogs! And it sounds like Midnight could be one of those cats. I believe a cat like that would be happier in that sort of environment. Like a wild cat, such as you owuld find in the wild, would prefer to live there, alone, away from humans. Perhaps that is how this cat is? More so going back to it's ancestors ways. Anyway, I don't know anything about this situation so I won't try to say much.
I think you did such an amazingly kind thing, Phred! That dog is very lucky you came to rescue him!
He looks like SUCH a sweety! I wish I wasn't so far away, I would love to take him (If I were allowed)
Phred please continue the Joyous stories of Bowser. I think you did the most amazing thing and so selfless If someone was so worried about midnight let them do what you did or be quite. More Bowser stories this is almost like the old days of the Cinder and Smoke stories. I miss those days. If I wasn't married I would be after you too:)
OK, now it's my turn to speak. I'm absolutely appalled because ONCE AGAIN, a very loving and caring thread has been turned it into something ugly. It's times like this that I want to leave Pet Talk for good. Do you not trust Phred and Zippy's judgement? It says alot on how much you respect them. What's wrong with you people???? If they felt that Midnight was better off where she is, then so be it. Leave it alone, already!!! :mad:
Phred/Zippy/Laurie: Try to ignore what others are saying. I FOR ONE, stand with you 100% and by God they have will to go through me to get to you.
....and that's all I've got to say about that.....
Very sorry i'm late in this thread!
What a wonderful tale... very sorry it's been dissrupted... put please carry on with Bowser tales!
Phred, I'd love to hear more about sweet Bowser. He is adorable.
Tonya, i'm so glad your child-hood friend is being helped. :)
How does Bowser like other dogs??
I somehow missed this entire thread until now. :o Amazing story, amazing man. Way to go Phred!!!!!!!!!! I'm utterly in awe of your kindness and generosity.
Please, please, please don't take the "Bowser Tails" to PM's!!! I don't wanna miss a single second of this. Please don't let the fact that anyone is questioning your judgement (and everyone else's involved) on this, hurt your feelings. You undoubtedly did the VERY BEST for everyone involved.
Does sorta sound like somebody found a forever home already. ;)
*crosses fingers*
Oh Phred...there will always be people who will only look at the negative side in any occasion. Don't let it get to you. You and Tonya both did the BEST you could. To save an innocent living creature is SUCH an honorable thing to do. Nothing could make me believe you and Tonya would've left the cat if you could've done better for her. I mean...you both have very much loved cats of your own! You have such a soft heart, and that is truely a wonderful quality. Please don't take the stories to PM's...I for one would not like this wonderful story being told behind our backs. We want to hear it too!!! :D
Ps. Are you KEEPING him? :p
Phred!!!
I only feel the need to Applaud you!!!!
Please don't let the NEGATIVE nellies GET YOU DOWN!!!!
You & The Bowser are THE BEST!!!!
Don't EVER Forget That!!!
Go Phred!!!!! And Bowser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and MIDNIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so glad to hear that Bowser's in good health and that all he needs to be treated for is worms.:)
Phred, Please continue with the story of Bowser. I agree that Midnight will be fine and much happier were she is since she's such a wild cat. Please don't let some one's negativity get you down or upset. I happen to think that you're one of the kindest and caring people here on PT. :)
This is Zippy's Mom, I am posting under Zippy because I cannot get my account to work. It truly amazes me how Pet Talk people are able to work together so closely while being miles and miles apart to accomplish a common goal. Zillions of thanks to you, Phred for sticking your neck out and traveling to WV to actually retrieve Bowser. Also, many heart felt thanks to ALL others that have in someway helped with this mission. Even the ones that could do nothing but applaud and cheer, "Go, Phred!" (And boy did he ever!)
The pics were wonderful, thanks for those also. Bowser looks pretty good, much better that I expected. Although Bowser's future home had not yet found him, I feel confident that he is in excellent hands. His luck has turned and he is on his way to a happy life once again. Phred, I am sure if Bowser could talk, he would be saying, "Thanks, Phred! I Love Ya, Man!"
In regards to Midnight, I really feel that the right decision was made for her. She is a very unusual cat and would bite and scratch the hand that feeds her. I was never able to make up with her when I went to visit my Dad. She does not care for the human touch.
One more time..."Thank you, Pet Talkers!"
Dear Zippy's Mom:
I love Tonya to bits and I'm proud to call her Sis. She's a special angel and I so look forward to seeing her again in July. Thank you for bringing her into our lives. I know that I will probably never meet you so {{{HUGS}}} to you through cyber-space. I just know that Bowser and Midnight will be OK because Pet Talkers are involved. Please give your furbabies, especially Clarice, a loving hug from Auntie Slick.
I am not even to the end of the thread and HAD to reply.Quote:
Originally posted by slick
OK, now it's my turn to speak. I'm absolutely appalled because ONCE AGAIN, a very loving and caring thread has been turned it into something ugly. It's times like this that I want to leave Pet Talk for good. Do you not trust Phred and Zippy's judgement? It says alot on how much you respect them. What's wrong with you people???? If they felt that Midnight was better off where she is, then so be it. Leave it alone, already!!! :mad:
Phred/Zippy/Laurie: Try to ignore what others are saying. I FOR ONE, stand with you 100% and by God they have will to go through me to get to you.
....and that's all I've got to say about that.....
I am thoroughly disgusted....
WHERE did ANYONE say that "it was just a cat"
Some where I read that LEGALLY Butch was not allowed to pick up Midnite.
Now that feelings are brutalized and I am sure one person I love dearly has shed a TON of tears of this statement, I thought this was what PT was about......
My heart hurts for my 2 favorite people b/c they did nothing wrong.
Phred did all of this out of his own genoristy and has refused anything in return.
And Zippy's mom has spoken and she knows best.
Phred did NOTHING wrong and I am soooo glad he is being commended by what he did.
Just remember until you walk a mile in someone's shoes and Judge NOT lest ye be JUDGED!
Let calmness prevail. I have PM'd the person - the only person - who made the upsetting comments. I have also had a nice PM exchange with Zippy-kat.
Let all be well.
Pet Talk is an amazing place, let not one pebble disturb the ocean.
Amen, Karen! :) I trust the decision makers in this process to know what was the best thing to do. And I also know that the two main "characters" in this whole saga, besides Bowser and Midnight, would move mountains to keep their pets healthy and safe, and those of others as well. All you have to do is read "history", right here at Pet Talk to know that, whether it be cats, dogs or bunnies, or "humans" too! :) :)
Keep on telling those "tails" of Bowser. I'm like the others, I want to know!!!! :D And thank you, once again, for going above and beyond the call of duty to make this whole miracle happen.
I said a little extra prayer for Midnight tonight. I have a special place in my heart for cats like that, and I can't imagine successfully catching one like that, let alone trying to rehome it. Some things are better left as they are.
*Raises hand as another one who would not like the Bowser tails to go to PMs*
I don't visit PT too much any more but I do confess that this thread and all of the wonderful people in it have made for some of the most heartwarming reading in a long time. Whether Bowser his found his forever home already *wishes* or he will find another loving human to take him in, I would love to follow his story. Phred you are truly 1 in 1,000,000 and a real :cool: guy!
I saw the one "out of place post" last night just before I posted...and I wanted to respond, but felt I needed to take a deep breath before I said something nasty. I'm glad the issue has been dealt with and I can again read the happy tails of Browser!
Phred, Zippy, Lauri, you all are amazing!! What a great story!!
Now Phred, i have a couple of other stories to remind you of...one Sunday almost two years ago, I drive 500+ miles round trip to save a spotted dog...to make sure his life was safe and get him into a rescue...Welcome Spot #3 to our clan!
A few short months ago, my mom took in a little JRT...just to get her in rescue. She even made it to a rescue site. Welcome #6, Pippi!
And now, my friend, you have driven and gone to great lengths to save Browser. Just warning you once they are there, they are hard to part with!! Welcome #3?!? ;)
As I posted once before, the Tail/Tale of Bowser is probably just beginning. Phred is the ONLY one that will be able to decide if he is ready, willing and able to take in #3. It would make a nice fairy tail ending but ain't necessarily do-able. Only Phred knows that. Should another person offer to adopt Bowser I have already contacted the parties most closly involved and hope to be a part, regardless of how small, in any trans-port - sup-port or any other "port" in a storm (as it were). Let's not put any more pressure on Phred to make this respite in Bowsers life his permanent one. He's a resilient little man and will be a joy for anyone to love. As far as da Kat goes.. no, I did not offer my home as I did for Bowser. That was after much anguishing thought but no. It simply would not have worked. No one else needs to know the whys and wherefors of my - or anyone else's decision. Perhaps, and at least I like to think that.. a post was made out of a "first reaction/emotion" and was since regretted. the poster appears to be a caring, loving person as are all of you, and I would hate to think that a permanent "Blotch" would be held against her for a hasty remark. Nuff said.. on with the show. (now, I just bet when I sign my name it won't be spelled properly.. i.e. L-A-U-R-I-E why is that?)
:confused:
Lauri
SEE
Thank you, Karen! :)
I know Phred will find the best possible home for Browser, where ever that is :D I certainly didn't mean to put any pressure on Phred to keep da boy...just a little teasing between friends!! ( and honest testimony that sometimes your heart make the decision before your head can catch up ;) )
I would still like to send a couple bucks to Phred, even if it's just to help with the gas money to pick up BowserBoy.. or maybe a Gift Card from Petsmart?
And yes, I agree Midnight is going to be just fine as I said in my previous post.. She prefers it outdoors and where she is.. just like a woman to be stubborn and not want to dig up her roots =)
... and there was much rejoicing, so let the celebrations of Bowser's rescue continue! :D
I support Phred, Zippy and all concerned about Midnight. I've known some cats who just are not happy near people. Midnight made her own choice as far as I'm concerned.
Now, what is Bowser up to today? Aren't you having company? Besides him, I mean?:)
Bowser you need to learn how to use the computer.
I'm sorry this happy story took a turn, but I think it's time for it to take another turn back to the "Happy times for Bowser"
Please keep us updated on him. This thread has become like some womans soap operas for me, You have to check in every day just to see what's next in the Life of Bowser. :D ;)
As for Midnight, I understand why the decision was made and know you did the right thing. For 8 years I had a cat, M2, that no matter what, never liked any other human but me, no matter how hard we tried. Husband, sister-in-law, niece and a friend that ended up in the hospital all carry scares to this day from M2. There was just a wildness in him that even after 8 years of care and love I could never get out of him.
Do not be angry or upset at what some might say, it's only through their heart that they worry, not knowing of Midnight and her background. We all would like the best for every pet, but must understand that the best for most, might not be the best for all.
Now keep on telling us about Bowser, I need my soap opera fix for the day. I/we need to know................More!! :D
i just want to say what you all have done or are doing for this dog in incredible! what dedication!!
Phred,
I support you 100%.:D I would trust your judgement to do
the best thing for any animal involved.You are a fine man with
a tremendous heart. I'm happy to have had the pleasure of
meeting such an unselfish & caring person. :)
:)
THANKS, FRIENDS!!
Your Kind Words of Support and Understanding have meant a LOT to me!
And Please send some {{{PT HUGS}}} to Zipp-Kat -
she was hurt just as badly as I was and
could use a bit of support, too!
I "had" about an hour's + of Tails & Stuff on here but made the
mistake of opening the Weather Channel to see if
tomorrow was
going to be "warmer"...
The WC *CRASHED* NetScape and my PT Post...
:mad: :mad: :mad:
I'm so ***P!$$$$ed*** I could SCREAME!
I'm gonna bundle up and load the Herd -
off to the BigLake Park to reduce tensions from the "lost post".
Should be "interesting" :rolleyes: ~
Furst Tyme for all FOUR in the back seat at one time! :eek:
For those that don't know...
"WE're" Dawg-Sittin for Unka Pat's BC - Cali...
a frequent guest at the Ranch.
Gonna be *Kozzie* with the three "regulars" AND Bowser Boy
tossed in to fill in the gaps!
Laterz...
/s/ Phred & the Herd ;)
.
Does that mean Bowser like other dogs? :)
Of course, I'm behind Tonya 100% as well. :D
I just don't understand how a callous accusation like that could have been made considering what has recently happened with them. I have kept my opinion on that to myself and will continue to do so. So, if you don't have something nice to say, keep it to yourself. I've finally learned my lesson on that here. That same person had wonderful things to say about Phred on another thread about this same rescue. So, which is it?
I am aghast that anyone could follow this tale and end up questioning judgement or extent of caring that has been evidenced in these last days. What makes it even worse is that the hearts of the people involved in devoting an extensive amount time and energy as well as dipping into their pockets to do a good deed have been wounded. There is a saying that *no good deed goes unpunished*, but to see that happen here makes me very, very sad.
I can only beg and plead that Phred will realize that his work is not devalued, his efforts are not for naught, his sacrifice not undone. He must know from the posts and viewings of this thread how much we want to follow the continuing tribulations and triumphs of Bowser Boy. And he needs to consider that those of us who want to contribute in the only way we can (a donation of funds) should be allowed to do so.
Hope all goes well at da lake!!
One way or another, we will find a way to make him let us help!!Quote:
And he needs to consider that those of us who want to contribute in the only way we can (a donation of funds) should be allowed to do so.
I do have his address...so maybe some food and toys and such will just have to "show up" there?!? ( things for Browser, much harder to refuse then a chack he can refuse to cash!)
Quote:
Originally posted by Phred
:)
THANKS, FRIENDS!!
Your Kind Words of Support and Understanding have meant a LOT to me!
And Please send some {{{PT HUGS}}} to Zipp-Kat -
she was hurt just as badly as I was and
could use a bit of support, too!
I "had" about an hour's + of Tails & Stuff on here but made the
mistake of opening the Weather Channel to see if
tomorrow was
going to be "warmer"...
The WC *CRASHED* NetScape and my PT Post...
:mad: :mad: :mad:
.
Oh, Phred! Learn to do yer typin on long tails - er, tales - in a word-processor or something more stable than Netscape, then you can save periodically, and cut and paste the whole thing into Pet Talk when you're ready!
Looking forward to four-tail-tales of BigLake Adventures!