Aren't we your friends too?

Johanna, it does change things, and I figured people weren't directing these things about me.. but it still makes me feel iffy cause i'm a teen. :p




*Maybe* a good idea would be to make a whole rant section all together. Where everyone could post their hard feelings about something.. " Ugh, we're having trouble selling our house"
"My child is acting like a brat" "i'm have trouble in school" " I cannot stand my parents" "My child's teacher is a.."

And so on. then we won't we seperated, but all of the "clutter" will be taken out of General.

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*Maybe* a good idea would be to make a whole rant section all together. Where everyone could post their hard feelings about something.. " Ugh, we're having trouble selling our house"
"My child is acting like a brat" "i'm have trouble in school" " I cannot stand my parents" "My child's teacher is a.."

And so on. then we won't we seperated, but all of the "clutter" will be taken out of General.

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Then what will be left to post in general?

Well said Cataholic. I agree:) I think the teen general is a great idea. I too am not directing this at any specific person...I just wanted to say this up front. ;) kfamr, please don't feel like any of this is being directed at you. You post about animals(your pets) quite a lot, which is what I enjoy about PT! Your puppers have the be the most spoiled puppers in the world! ;) Even if I can't post everytime to every thread, I still look at all the great pictures you take! ;)
So, having a teen general doesn't mean that if you're a teen you have to post there, but it's a good way to get all the "clutter" in one place. I think the "clutter" is one of the reasons why I took quite a long break from PT. I just wasn't interested in all of these non pet-related random threads, and didn't have the time to sift through lots of pages of it.
Now, I'm not saying that teens should only post there, they should post on relevant pet threads as well. They are a part of this wonderful community and like micki76 said, they are treasures here at PT and contribute a great deal (and some of them I'm happy to call my friends), but with the excess amount of "chat" going on, a teen general would be an appropriate place to categorize it all.

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Then what will be left to post in general?

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Lots!

Fun games, Post picture of you threads, Congrats threads, signature threads... too much to list!:p

I would prefer that we keep just one General.

I'm perfectly capable of passing up threads that don't interest me. By the same token, I have replied to some "teen" threads when its obvious that the young person has a serious issue to deal with and is seeking advice.

Other times the teens give us old people :p a fresh perspective which is also welcome.

I'm sure that we also have plenty of threads that are boring to the teens. They don't care who we listened to in the 80's because they weren't born yet.

Regarding replying to threads - timing can be everything. I've learned not to start a new thread on Friday afternoons because the people I know the best are usually getting ready to head out for the weekend.

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Lots!

Fun games, Post picture of you threads, Congrats threads, signature threads... too much to list!:p

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But what if someone thinks games or congrats are clutter?

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I would prefer that we keep just one General.

I'm perfectly capable of passing up threads that don't interest me. By the same token, I have replied to some "teen" threads when its obvious that the young person has a serious issue to deal with and is seeking advice.

Other times the teens give us old people :p a fresh perspective which is also welcome.

I'm sure that we also have plenty of threads that are boring to the teens. They don't care who we listened to in the 80's because they weren't born yet.

Regarding replying to threads - timing can be everything. I've learned not to start a new thread on Friday afternoons because the people I know the best are usually getting ready to head out for the weekend.

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I think you may be right. It isn't to hard to skip over the stuff that isn't important to you. I think before we worry about who posts where, we need to get these catfights straightened out. It's very bothering to see so much negativity and anger.

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But what if someone thinks games or congrats are clutter?

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I'm not saying that the rants are clutter so i'm not getting what you're saying. I'm talking about having a "Rant" Section for all rants -- made by teens, made by 20's, made by 100 year old for all I care. For everyone.

It would just be so there are less threads made in General, since alot of threads here are "rants" (I have no problem with them fyi) and I think general would be a more happy place.

Some good points have been made by various people in this thread, even if the perspectives are different, and it seems people are expressing themselves in a respectful way. That is encouraging to see. I hope everyone reads all the posts which have been made here and endeavors to understand why people feel the way they do and that certain points of view are not a put down.

I do feel sad that there are those who do not feel that they have become a part of the group here. I also feel that sad that some of the dog/cat/pet related posts where people ask for advice aren't given as much response as the general type topics are. (I'm pointing the finger at myself as well as others here.)

I guess I just don't see the need for Teen General, because I don't see the teens posts posts as "clutter". :( Any of the threads by teens or adults that I have issues with, or threads that I just am not interested in, I just skip over.

Also, what one member may consider "clutter", another may value. Isn't the whole reason for a General category for anything "off topic"?

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I'm not saying that the rants are clutter so i'm not getting what you're saying. I'm talking about having a "Rant" Section for all rants -- made by teens, made by 20's, made by 100 year old for all I care. For everyone.

It would just be so there are less threads made in General, since alot of threads here are "rants" (I have no problem with them fyi) and I think general would be a more happy place.

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Yeah, I totally agree with a rant section. It'd be great to keep the negativity siphoned into one section. What my point was about these "pointless" threads is that everyone has a different opinion on what is considered "clutter". Negativity is negativity...That is black and white, so that's easy to manage and say where that goes. But "clutter" on the other hand...if everyone decided to take what they consider clutter away, General will be empty. We all have to many different interests.

p.s. We all know I've been dreaming of a catfight section, so that the fights don't get mixed into our everyday posts. If were gonna fight, fight...but take it outside! :p

I thought that general was used for anything at all. You can talk about home, your pets, etc. Why make another general when we allready have one?? That is the same thing as seperating teens from adults. I don't want to affend any one. Well thats just how I feel about it.

kate

Having read all the replys and opinions on here,I personally donot see any need for any change to PT, it is fine how it is, I have had second thoughts, and agree entirely with Micki, what might be boring or seen as a rant to one, might not be to another.

I think it all needs to be put in perspective here, it is getting ridiculous if you have to think everytime you post, oh is this a rant,? is my grammar perfect?, my spelling? and the general section is just for that about anything that is going on in your life, the news , whatever.

Why is there a need to separate Teens from us, if you don't like the heading of the thread, simply don't click on it, each and everyone one of us can do that.

I don't think teens post any more boring threads than the adults on here, I am sure we all have posted some boring threads once in a while, not everything I post is interesting to everyone, just a selected few.

I have enjoyed many teens threads, I often venture in there, try to offer advice when asked, or an opinion, or a bit of humour when called for, they have as much to offer as anyone on here, and it is offensive to say otherwise IMO. I have found myself asking questions about my own daughter, in hope that the teens will respond, and they do and give sound advice, that even I need sometimes, it is good to get a different perspective.

I know Kim you were mis-understood, but in hindsight I really cannot agree with you, I say leave things as they are, if it Ain't broke why fix it?

I didn't realize there was a difference, although I don't check out Cat General very often.
I just come here to let off steam, read people's stories, reply if I know anything about it, & I LOVE to talk so, I probably post a lot of boring subjects to people! But, does it really, honestly matter??? I know everyone has a different personality & someone might take something the wrong way...blah, blah, blah, do you know what I mean?
I try to care about everyone's feelings on here & give respect & deserve to get back in return.
I have been lucky enough to get responses back from people that seem to really genuinely care but there are many times that I feel some people on here aren't sincere. (This is how I feel)......I feel kinda left out of the whole "who is your fav. pt-er on here?".....I only have 200 some posts but I listen to people, I give them my thoughts. Sometimes, I feel like people are bored by what I have to say or post......I hope that isn't the case & I'm not trying to be a downer!:(
I have good & bad days just like EVERY SINGLE PERSON on here does! I do feel left out of the loop though!
I'm not sure if people get their friend's to log on here & just associate with them or what?!
I guess I'll have to keep posting if I do want to make any friends though!!!:)
Tina

Tina I hear what you are saying, I have been here at least a year and half and have over 3000 posts, and I am fairly well known by now I think, as I always have a lot to say lol, but don't feel bad, I don't get into the fav pt thing either or asked about my cats much, but I just take it with a grain of salt, I know there are some lovely people here who do really care about me, and that is all that matters, so keep posting , you will find your niche sooner or later, and if not well, it is still fun to be here and you learn new things everyday.

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I guess I just don't see the need for Teen General, because I don't see the teens posts posts as "clutter". :( Any of the threads by teens or adults that I have issues with, or threads that I just am not interested in, I just skip over.

Also, what one member may consider "clutter", another may value. Isn't the whole reason for a General category for anything "off topic"?

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I have read this whole thread & I agree.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I like
PT just the way it is..."clutter" & all:D

Even threads that don't seem "very interesting"......I still look at or try to comment on. Because I think it means a lot to people to have someone respond. It sucks when people just look but don't reply. It makes ME feel like I'm being brushed off & other's are more important than mine. I'm just stating on how I feel about the matter.
I at least try to take the time to write something, anything because I don't want anyone to feel left out!:)

I just read this thread now, I've never felt unwelcomed anywhere. I think PT is a really great, I feel more comfortable in the dog section only because I have dogs but I have posted in the cat section I didn't really feel unwelcomed though. I love PT and I love it just the way it is!:) :D

I am NOT reading this whole thread! lol but I have to agree that while I dont go to the cat side much, the dog side is VERY cliquey only certain people get replies everyone else gets maybe 1-2 replies and always from the same people.

Dog General doesn't seem to be very active lately, I think that might be why some people aren't getting very many replies. Sometimes I look at a thread but don't reply because I don't want to say the exact same thing as everybody else, and sometimes I don't know what to say exactly but I usually enjoy every thread:) so if I don't reply to your posts I'm sorry.

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P.S I would just like to add I have posted in Dog General for the first time ever, regarding something I thought was important, everyone is so out-raged about the dogs being poisoned in Greece, but yet when it comes down to it only one person answered and said they would send a letter to the PM of Greece,and only 24 views, so I say put your money where your mouth is. I am really disappointed. This to me is the only way we can get the attention of the Government and protest, it might just work.

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I would like to respond (although I am a few days late). Carole - I have noticed if I post things of importance in Dog - General it sometimes gets buried with other posts of "pics of my dogs" and "what is your favorite color" kind of post. Now don't get me wrong - I love seeing the pictures and hearing about people's thoughts, but I have found that posts that are of real importance get more exposure in either Dog Rescue or Dog Behavior. I personally didn't even see your post about the issue of dog poisioning in Greece until someone (who has more time than I) replied and brought it to the front page. These type of issues are of extreme importance to me and I never want to see it buried, so I always try to post important issues in areas where they won't get buried in "fluff" posts.

Now before anyone flames me - I like the fluff posts. They make me feel good and help me forget some of the things I have to deal with as a shelter volunteer and shelter trainer, but if there is something of importance, I post in the other forums. It is just sometimes I do not have the time to read every post so I usually go to the other forums first and if I have time, I will go to Dog General. Believe me when I say that many people who are involved in animal rescue saw the message and responded. It is just that people that are seriously in animal rescue don't necessarily have the time to respond. :)

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I guess I just don't see the need for Teen General, because I don't see the teens posts posts as "clutter". :( Any of the threads by teens or adults that I have issues with, or threads that I just am not interested in, I just skip over.

Also, what one member may consider "clutter", another may value. Isn't the whole reason for a General category for anything "off topic"?

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I totally agree. EVERYONE has there OWN opinion!

If I say... "Oh! Swimming is the best sport ever! Its the most fun!"

You could say, "No! Soccer is the besy sport!:rolleyes:..(not...lol) Its way more fun!"

I know everyone knows what an opinion is.. lol. But Im just saying... if someone said that... would we start a big argument?

Just like Micki stated... what one person considers "clutter," another could very much value it.

Also... I dont think its nice that some people are saying... "I would never consider it clutter if Kay said it... but when other people say it... it is."

I know that was not meant to hurt feelings... but it kinda did.:(


Carly

I agree with Micki, I don't want to see the anything split up. I really do enjoy reading what the young people have to say! They deserve to be heard too. That is what I have always taught my kids, and they all turned out okay!

I have the greatest respect for our young people here.

Willie:)