hmmmmm. Point taken. Let's not say "better" but just another alternative in the "who's imaginary friend is better than the other" discussion :rolleyes: he he, now I'll get some people going I bet :p
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hmmmmm. Point taken. Let's not say "better" but just another alternative in the "who's imaginary friend is better than the other" discussion :rolleyes: he he, now I'll get some people going I bet :p
Laurie
I never had imaginary friends growing up... but I did have an imaginary horse that slept underneath my bed! :D
But that's what I'm curious about. Islam is almost as big as Christianity, but only very very rare does someone leave it. The sad thing is that only on Pet Talk, I see so many Christian become atheist and don't even believe in God. If this is so many just of Pet Talk, I can't imagine how many in whole world. :confused: But why is this? That's what I'm curious. I know lots of priests here that were top priests and left Christianity and became Muslims after learning about the religion. Judhism is small religion so you don't see lots of people leaving that, but Islam is a very big religion like Chrisitanity and people don't leave. Only very very few. Do people leave Christianity because of *mean* preaching, I mean, people preaching in a mean style? :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by shais_mom
Christianity is such a large religion THAT is why it seems people leave it.
I left because I stopped believeing..I went to the science side of things..lol..I also had very bad bouts of depression and I felt like God was punishing me...Soon I started cursing at God, which made me feel sad, and so I told God that I needed a break from everything for a while...My break lasted quite a while..and then, I just stopped.
I don't NOT believe actually, I'm just not sure. Call me ignorant, because I am. I DO believe in a higher intelligence, just the whole idea of certain things confuses me and seems impossible to me..I don't like to live my life trying to comprehend something that doesn't make sense..
That's pretty much it :)
I thought i had apologized. arent we supposed to forgive others 70 times 7? Yes the Bible does say to respect your elders, unless they go against the Bible. God puts people in authority over us so we can learn how to deal with people in authority, but like many say, we shouldn't jump off a bridge because they do
i am not trying to push my belief on anyone because i talk with the only facts i know. The words of God, the Bible. If you are saying i come here to win "lost" souls then so are you. You are sating your beliefs just as i have stated mine.
Why are you telling me it is bizarre to tell Bible Verses in my posts. Do you not take things from Darwin, Isaac Asimov or others? hmmmm
um, who? Isn't taking things breaking a commandment? ;)Quote:
Do you not take things from Darwin, Isaac Asimov or others? hmmmm
I really dont know what I beileve, exept that I will NEVER beleive that the earth started from 2 nothings coming together and turning into something:rolleyes: my dad says I cant beleive evoloution and creation at the same time, but I do. I belive that go created everything, but in a primitve way, and we evolveed over time, but NOT from monkeys. her is a question for you people that think humans evovled from monkeys.
why do they still exist and are not evolving? I do tink it is possable for a higher being to be in existce but I do not think the big bang theory explains a thing.
so let me get this straight all of a sudden out of nowhere absolutly nothing explodes, and turns into the earth.:confused:
in case u werent being sarcastic: I meant thay quote things from Darwin and Isaac Asimov
I imagine there's a lot of belief sating on this thread :DQuote:
Originally posted by lotrfreak
You are sating your beliefs just as i have stated mine.
LOL This really did make me laugh out loud. Good catch.:D
how about we do start a new thread. Begin this post over so that we can talk in a calm and rational manner instead of at each others' throats
Or perhaps, we could just start anew in this thread. Hi I am Lord of the Rings Freak. Iwas discussing in class the topic of evolution vs. creation. What is your view?
I already stated my view, but would like to add that don't knock it if you haven't studied it. Saying that God created everything 10,000 years ago is just as narrowminded as saying that it was all science with no help from anywhere. The physics of the Big Bang just makes sense. As for evolving from monkeys....I answered that one already. 1. We aren't even CLOSE to monkeys...we are, however, close to apes. 2. We did not evolve FROM anything that still exists. 3. It would be mutations that cause evolution. 4. Not all mutations are bad.
what about x-men. Is that true too. are we all gonna be throwin fire or freezing things in, i dont know, maybe a couple billion years or so
where is the proof of evolution? And I quote: "We had an international conference in Rome in 1981 on the mechanisms of speciation. It was attended by many of the leading botanists, zoologists, paleontologists, geneticists, cytologists, and bioogists. The one thing on which they all agreed was that we stilll have ABSOLUTELY no idea what happens genetically during "speciation". That's a d***ing statement, but it's the truth." that quote cam from Dr. Ernst Mayr it was published in Omni Magazine, a magazine that supporst evolutionists. That came from February 1983 p. 78. Go ahead, look it up.
lotrfreak, do you have any of your OWN ideas about evolution? I would be interested in hearing them, so far you really haven't given anything other than a bunch of quotes. It's easy to find quotes about anything and everything.
thats very true. but everything came from someone. whoever firstsaid 2+2=4 is quoted by everyone. My ideas come from researching others who have researched themselves and so on.
There is no PROOF of anything either way. Where's your proof of creationism, other than a literal interpretation of the Bible? I have lots of textbooks that support evolution, just like the literal Bible supports creationism. Like I said in an earlier post, no one will know until they die and find out!
there is proof. God shows himself in miracuolous ways. where did the rainbow come from what do scientist have to say about that and why do theyonly come after rain. It is all in the Bible. god flooded the earth(proof of that) and promised to never flood the earth again. as a sign of his promise, he said he would give us a rainbow
inn case you are wondering what proof i have of the flood. there are many fossils in the mountains. How did they get there? The flood covered the entire earth and carried things that were already dead from drowning up into mountains
If you're so sure about it, that's great, but why start a discussion? Unless of course, you're just out to preach to us lost souls....:rolleyes:
Well, let's see, 1. the fossils got there when there was a giant inland sea 2. the mountains had not been formed yet. The fossils are older than the mountains. 3. I'm not a lost soul, so please don't preach to me.
theres all scietific proof of that too...Quote:
Originally posted by lotrfreak
there is proof. God shows himself in miracuolous ways. where did the rainbow come from what do scientist have to say about that and why do theyonly come after rain. It is all in the Bible. god flooded the earth(proof of that) and promised to never flood the earth again. as a sign of his promise, he said he would give us a rainbow
What do you mean there is no scientific proof for rainbows?! Did you sleep through your science class?
Light is comprised of a series of colours. In order: Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet. When the light passes through anything, it will become bent, refracted light.The rain must always be present for a rainbow to appear in the sky, because it needs something to go through in order for the colours to show, and the light to bend. It's why you see rainbows in sprinklers. It why you see them in crystals.
plate tectonics or they died there in the mountains waiting for AAA to show up when their car broke down.:eek:Quote:
Originally posted by lotrfreak
inn case you are wondering what proof i have of the flood. there are many fossils in the mountains. How did they get there? The flood covered the entire earth and carried things that were already dead from drowning up into mountains
lolQuote:
plate tectonics or they died there in the mountains waiting for AAA to show up when their car broke down.
Maybe they just climbed up there...mountain goats climb...snow leopards climb...
Well this has been a long and now getting tiresome thread i think, i have little to say except soledad your last comment kinda summed it all up for me.
Am i mistaken but i thought doghouse was for starting controversial threads? This is one for certain.
I am staying out of this one for the most part, i just wanted to say i cant stand it when someone trys to push their beliefs especially religious ones on to me.
I have many friends who have the faith, and are very strict about their beliefs but thank goodness they never preach it to me.
I in turn respect their choice to believe as they and everyone should not to believe.
Well we will all find out in the end.
Dear lotrfreak
I would just like to ask you what your motives are for posting on Pet Talk.
You start off by posting a blatantly provocative statement, but then show no interest in discussing it maturely or sensibly. You are obviously not at all interested in other peoples opinions or beliefs unless they are identical with your own. You are totaly one-sided and narrow minded and reject any belief other than your own. What is the point? Are you so wise and experienced that you think you know best and that your faith is the only right one?
Surely even you can see that you are getting absolutely nowhere with this attitude, and are a very bad ambassador for your faith, doing much more damage than good.
Can you explain in a sensible manner why you are wasting our time?
john
How about posting something on PETS for a change.
Definatly agreed, and very well spoken.
First, of all, I NEVER said science was bad. second of all, i have posted on the pet topics. third, i am not pushing my religious beliefs. but i assure you the bible is a hihg percentage of my proof. Fourth, i did not start this thread blatantly, because if you will remeber I began this thread again by asking what others' views are on creation vs evolution
You are so right Jonza!
This is my belief: fanatics exist to aid the 'evil force' (if you believe that there is actually one), specifically to drive people away from a faith in God or supreme being. More people are turned-off than anything else by those tactics.
I think someone else has said that previously in this thread, but just wanted to state it again because I feel strongly about it.
*I am much more impressed and moved by people who
live it , rather than just talking and preaching about it all the time.
Is it wrong that I am so ecsatic in my faith beacuse Jesus Christ has shown his power to me. Why should I sway from the belief I myself have seen proven.
Example #1: When I was in kindergarden, my mom was diagnosed with cancer. She was sent to M.D Anderson. There are six people in my family, so we can't exactly afford M. D. Anderson. My mom decided to sign up for one of those things where they test new treatments on you, so she paid nothing. About a year later, she was miracuolously healed. Well, duh? some of you may say. the doctors' treatment worked. No, because on her release papers, where the doctors sign their name, was the word God. right there in black and white was the healer of my mother.
Example#2: It was the same year while my mom still had cancer. The doctors' really didn't want her to drive because of the medications she was on, but she has to get around and take care of her 4 children. She got in her car, turned the key, put it in drive, and pressed down on the gas pedal. The car didn't move. she pressed again trying to se what was the matter. she pressed again and again until she lokked at the gear light. It was in drive. If the car had moved she would have gone right through the garage. she put the drive in reverse and tried again. the car began its way down the driveway......
You didn't ask for people views. You said "who can prove me wrong." That's not asking for peoples views and opinons.Quote:
began this thread again by asking what others' views are on creation vs evolution
no, you obviously have not kept up on this thread. I wrote on page 9 or 10 that i was restarting this thread in a rational way. read on
there is nothing "rational" about this thread of yours. I guess the only reason we are replying is because you are so silly and amusing... we must be bored * sigh *
you still obviously didn't hear. check page 10!!!!:mad:
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by lotrfreak
No, because on her release papers, where the doctors sign their name, was the word God. right there in black and white was the healer of my mother.
Please stop with this. You are making people back out of the faith and have no respect towards it. I am Christian, no I don't go to church but I believe in God, and what you are doing would make him sick! It's people like you that make people question God!
I agree. People who talk about God constantly, don't try to agree with others or consider others opinions turn me off of anything that they preach.
There is one girl at my school who flipped on my friends who were running around, and joking that they were Satanists. She told them that now they are going to Hell, and started quoting from the Bible, and told them that if they want to go to Heaven, they HAVE to be Christian.
I realize that you aren't doing this, but it's a similar situation. This chick didn't even have to talk to me, and already I knew I didn't like her because of what she told my friends.
It's making me absolutely sick to my stomach to read this, because it's not always a stereotype that some Christians are "too" Christian. Yes, it's funny on TV when we see Ned Flanders and his obsession, but in real life, people like that come off as crazy, and nobody wants to listen to them, save for other people like that..
Your thread does not particularly bother me that much, but i do wish you would stop trying to ram your beliefs down our throats, thats the only complaint i have.
I am happy for you that you believe so strongly, and i respect that, you in turn must respect others.
I think you are young, so very passionate about your beliefs, but you have a lot of living and learning experiences to go through yet.
Just dont preach so much it puts people off ok.