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Later Hun!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
Hey Phred you got a new nickname now okay Hun:D, seems kinda fitting for a retired firedude:D
>snikker<Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
:p
So, who *retired*?
:D
I retired.... after reading some of these post :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
Ooops sorry hun I didn't realize you were still an active firedude!
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Originally Posted by caseysmom
SEMI-active firedude.
:cool:
Marty, if you wanna be a d!(k take it back to Chaz.
This could have been a good thread, and Ive tried to make educational posts from my limited observasions with chaining, but if your gonna pull this carp you are not helping your cause or your breed.
For the PT crowd....
Many people have succesfully chained dogs for years if not decades without problems or damaging their dogs, and not just pit bulls, but sled dogs as well.
I know the anti chainers have all their reasons on why its bad but many of the same problems can crop up with kenneling under the same conditions that damage dogs on a chain, ever look into the conditions racing greyhounds are kept?
Got to keep face I guess, dude I have no idea what your talking about but Ok I'm gone, this is not the site I thought it was anyway :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
I wish you would take a few others with you.
[QUOTE=sasvermont;2224719]
Please edit my quotes from your posts.
Thank you
There have always been new members here, and for most, they are welcomed with open arms.
Not everyone here gets along, as I am sure is true about any forum.
When you roll in, thinking you own the forum after having been here only a few days, it rubs people the wrong way. It has nothing to do with the pet, but the owner.
I have never been banned from a forum or been asked to leave. I try to fit in and yet I still find myself getting into arguments from time to time.
If the socializing part of the forum is something you need to brush up on, please do take the time and then come back with better people skills.
We have members with thousands of posts after many years .... and then someone comes along to tell us how they are here to educate us. We have lots of members who have let us come to know their pets and their solutions to problems. We don't need people to ram information down our throats.
So, if this forum doesn't fit for you, move on and do yourself and us a favor. The upset just isn't worth it and it is dragging down the morale of the forum.
Just for your information - redog (not that it's any of your business) but - I made another call to AC this a.m., and they have agreed to come out and investigate and patrol for this dog. So the squeaky wheel really does get the grease!Quote:
Originally Posted by redog
And they specifically told me NOT to try to approach him. Obviously they agree with the fact that he could be anything but friendly.
Very well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasvermont
Some people happen to like pet talk just the way it is. We may not have many "professional" dog people, but we do have a sound network of caring, passionate people. I'm sorry if that bothers you.
I haven't seen any slamming of APBT people here. It just gives the wrong impression when one poster posts and thread meant for confrontation and then a whole slew of backup joins to defend. And it just happens that the back up was APBT people. It has nothing to do with the breed of dog you own but the way you carry yourself on the boards.
Okay, I tried my best to stay out. I am an absolutely non-confrontational person, but PT is taking a hit, along with some people that are very special to me and I just can't take it anymore.
FIRST: Out of respect for the original poster and question, I will answer it. I HATE CHAINING DOGS BY THE COLLAR. Do you want to know why? Go see this thread: http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthre...ghlight=NIKATA I understand there are some dogs who pose a threat, or for other reasons need to be restrained. Use a harness or proper dog runs, and don't leave them out to annoy or frighten those around them. I grew up with my family breeding Irish Setters who could jump six foot fences from a standing position. They had runs.
SECOND: PT is a wonderful 'board' (I think that's the proper term) with seriously caring, loving, and accepting PET people. You want proof? Go see the same thread (among many others). They have been very helpful and knowledgeable towards my issues, and those of others; I hope they continue to do so.
There's my two cents. Now (and I have said this before), I'm going back to the kitty threads where I belong. It's much happier there.
Pinot, this is not intended to be sarcastic nor nasty by annny means. I just felt the need to step in on this note in a nice way. A harness and dog runs are not suited for these types of dogs. My dogs are confined durring the day while I'm away from home, some are outside and some are inside. I have a kennel set up, as well as a chain/cable set up. Most Game Bred dogs will eat through a kennel just to get to another dog that catches it's eye... also, even for my not game bred dogs... I tried tethering them with harnesses, and they ate through both the nylon and leather. When we chose to own these kinds of dogs we need to step up the responsibility in order to preserve our rights as animal owners. I cannot afford the vet bills if my APBT got off the chain, ate the kennel. Even when inside my home my APBT girl has to be seperated by a closed door from all other animals. We have to rotate to keep the vet costs as low as possible! haha To do this right your animals, especially dogs who has been bred specifically for sports/jobs needs the exercise of it's mind just as much as it's body...if this is not done they do become distructive to themselves personally as well as to anything withing paws reach. Very similar to GSD dogs who have been bred, trained, worked for law inforcement, then they become retired... it is very difficult, if not impossible to make them house dogs. I'm sure it's the same way for a greyhound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinot's Mom
EDIT: it has been bred and ingrained into these dogs for hundreds of years to need a purpose in life, and that is where we as a bully community come into so many troubles because they are not dogs for everyone by any means. It takes a certain kind of owner to do this breed any kind of justice... or stay out of the media. The "Pit Bull" (and I hate that term, because it's such a loose generalization) has become more of a fashion statement for people and when prospective owners browse the classified adds they do not realise it is a life style, not just a dog.
I tried to look at your link, but this blasted computer loses internet connection when I do. Weird, anyway. I'm sure it's a prime example that there is a right way and a wrong way to tether a dog, there are certain kinds of collars that should be used to safely contain your dog, as well as there should be a clear path so the dog cannot get caught up on it's tether or anything around him/her.
I told myself I wasn't going to post anything in this thread anymore if I couldn't be nice, but...Quote:
Originally Posted by Indigo Bully Connection
Thank you so much for being so informative. :) You make the idea of chaining a "pit bull" seem very reasonable to me. I'm sure you take extra care to make sure they are safe when they are. :)
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Oh, and I believe you too because just watching rescue shows on the tv and when they get dog aggressive "pit bulls" on there, they really mess themselves up with cages and such. They didn't really show the damage being done to this one dog, but when he was trying to get to the other "pit bull" the end result was blood EVERYWHERE.
Basically Pinot's thread was about a family who could no longer walk their dog (very nice family it sounds like) and their dog was on a long lead outside, ran after something and snapped it's neck. The dog had neck damage. So, if you are taking precautions as to something like this happening and being responsible about it... I suppose I could see this being better than a kennel or cage where they could hurt themselves and probably another dog once they got out of it.
No problemo, I welcome any questions. I have had to mend many bloody noses because of fence fights with the neighbors dog with Neela lol. Breaking up a "scuffle" with these dogs is much more of chore than it is with any other breed I've worked with. After the second go round between my older girls, I broke down and got the break sticks. I, like many other people truely believed "if you raise them right you won't have any problems".... boooy was I WRONG! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by MonicanHonda
i dont like chains...that is my personal opinion but i don put my dogs on their but only in the summer time and only for a couple of hours (dogs get cabin fever too)....but i see that they get alot of love....o and ummm if i may ask were did u get those chains cuz i need to get some like that for my pits...my female she breaks chains like crazy.......and i think it would b cute to see a lil chihuahua on one...lol jk jk
ya i kno wut ya mean....my female and male are the fighting kings they do not stop and that is y we have the fight stick.....(police baton) wen they see that they stop rite then and there.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Indigo Bully Connection
Do you mean a break stick? :) I think that's what it's properly called.
http://www.pbrc.net/shop/bsticks.html
For anyone that doesn't know what a breakstick is - it is only to be used on bulldogs, not any other breed when they get in a fight with another dog and it doesn't mean you fight your dogs it seperates them faster without you getting hurt and every responsible APBT 'bulldog' owner should have one. :)
Breaksticks -
http://www.pbrc.net/breaksticks.html
well ummmm that is wut we personally call it and they are pits not bulldogs...well mine at least
Same thing. ;) APBTs are infact bulldog breeds. Hence 'bully' breeds still the same thing. :D
ya i kno wut ya ment....it jus eerks me wen people say bulldog cuz bulldogs look more like the bullies.....dozer is british staffordshire....with a lil american to...that is y he has the bulldog look....but to me bulldogs are small and husky....
That is not what I meant at ALL about bulldog. :) I did not mean American Bullies. It's used as a term if you know what I mean. Of course APBTs are lean and medium like the OP's dog. :)
im sry....but anyway back to the chain thing...another reason y i dont like chains is because people can come into ur yard and having nice dogs like mine u dont kno that they come in the yard.....i almost lost my female pit because some punk kids poisend her.....i almost lost my baby...ever since then i dont let my dogs out unless im out there and i dont chain them up no more........
It's a pet peeve of mine, but I don't like the terms Pits, or Pit Bulls. They are not breed specific. They lump a large amount of dogs together and add to the confusion to the general public. Bulldog is the original name of the American Pit Bull Terrier... They added the Terrier dogs to the Bulldog for "gameness" they introduced Terriers to the Bulldogs to have smaller, tenacious, quicker dog for fighting...They added the word "pit" when it became an underground sport ;) held in a "pit" also known as the "box".
Good post, Indigo. Very true!:)
A lot of people think that American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, and Bull Terriers are all 'pit bulls'. This is not the case! American Staffordshire's, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, and the APBT are all closely related breeds, but they are in no means the same breeds.
The APBT is shorter, and leaner.
The AST and the APBT look very similar.
and Staffordshire Bull Terriers are much shorter, wider, and have a totally different face then the others.
The Bull Terrier is best known for it's egg-shaped head. Not very common, but the color mostly seen is mostly white or white w/ some brown patches.
and the American Bulldog, (seen in the movie Homeward Bound, 'Chance') is a taller, and leaner breed. I like the type of American Bulldog seen in the movie, I feel like people have bred them to be bigger, and heavier....
yes i kno that aswell...i did some research yesterday cuz i was more interested in the breed (and im having health issues with my older male) but it has jus been a habit for me to call them "pits"....im sry if i offended you in anway.........
Don't worry about it Amber you didn't offend me at all. I'm an all mighty nerd of the APBT lmfao. If you ever want any good links or forums on the breed let me know :) I certainly don't know it all, but I've had my heart set on an APBT since i was like 7 so I started my research about 10 years of age when the glory days of AOL were around lmfao.
Oh my post was not in any way directed at you, Amber.:) Just general information!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by amberlynn
lol nice........yeah i have been starting to do research.....i guess im a nerd like that..........i have always like the breed but my dad always told me bad things about them........but we i got together with my fiance' he has two of them and they are the total opposite of what i have heard and well i have been doen some research and because of that research i have even convinced for my mom to keep the one that she "rescued"(longer story)......