and i stand with you! ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Kfamr
Still I stand by my original opinion, the YOUNG child should NOT have such a YOUNG puppy.
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and i stand with you! ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Kfamr
Still I stand by my original opinion, the YOUNG child should NOT have such a YOUNG puppy.
Lots of young children have young puppies. You may not like it and it may not be the best thing, but it happens. At least someone is taking the dog in and feeding them, etc.
What's not normal is for a six year old child to wake up with four fewer finger than he had when he went to bed. Unwashed hands or not, this is NOT normal puppy behavior.
I'm not putting it down to breed or age, I just think this puppy was a dud.
That's why I don't believe the story. I don't believe it's possible for a five week old puppy to bite through a person's fingers.Quote:
Originally posted by Soledad
What's not normal is for a six year old child to wake up with four fewer finger than he had when he went to bed. Unwashed hands or not, this is NOT normal puppy behavior.
It may not be LIKELY, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible. There's a difference.
I'm sure that the doctors would have noticed if the injuries were inconsistent with dog bites. What do you think these people have to gain by lying?:confused:
Publicity, entertainment....Quote:
Originally posted by Soledad
What do you think these people have to gain by lying?:confused:
I'm not saying that something like this happened and that the doctors and the victims were lying, I'm just saying that maybe the article was false, just like the Macdonalds one we encountered a while ago.
Really? The thing is, I never saw those Scopes.com type stories in the news. Only through emails.
I think it's true as the whole thing seems too weird NOT to be.
I don't believe this story one bit. First off there are TONS of errors in almost every article I read about it and it seems that things keep changing and changing. They also talked about it on the radio as well, and hrmm, seems like they have a different side as well.
I agree with Kayann, yes kids have young puppies but Soledad you are missing her argument. They aquired this puppy at THREE weeks of age!!! That is not old enough for a pup to leave his mother, period, I don't care who the hell owned it. If it was motherless maybe, but that is way too young.
Actually, the anesthesia doesn’t make the patient numb. It only puts the mind and body in a state of suspension. The body can’t feel pain without the brains help. There have been numerous cases of patients who are totally awake in surgery, but unable to move and tell the doctors. They are completely aware and feel all the pain from the surgery.Quote:
Originally posted by popcornbird
When they use anesthesia on patients when doing a surgery, it makes the patients NUMB, and they cannot feel the surgery, no matter how much the doctors cut them open, until the effect is gone.
Numbness and paralysis are two different things. If your hands numb, that means you have sensation in it. Paralysis means the nerves were damaged and no feeling will be possible, particularly if the nerves were severed.
On the subject of the pup eating the fingers. I believe a pit pup has the jaw power to chew through a child’s fingers. Many times I had to stop Chester from chewing on my hands, fingers, and toes when he was a pup. Now, if I were asleep and therefore couldn't feel it or see him to stop him (and my hands smelled of, and probably still had on them, people food) he probably would have kept on chewing. Chester wouldn't have had the capabilities to eat my hand, but a different breed would.
And this is really no ones “fault”. Just one of those truly horrible things that happen to people. No the tiny pup shouldn’t have been in the bed, but in a crate. No the pup shouldn’t have been taken from its mother so young. And yes the child should have washed his hands after eating. Did any of these things cause this? Yes all of them contributed to the horrific incident. But still, really no one’s fault, except maybe the breeders that would allow a pup to be taken at 3 and a half weeks.
I do not think this is the pups fault either. It was doing something quite natural to a pup that should have still been with his mother. Eating at the smell of food. I think the fact that the kid didn’t wash his hands after dinner was the entire reason that the pups instincts took over and kicked in his hunger drive. That’s what made him eat the fingers. Not a bad pup, just one that smelled food of some sort and ate. Survival instinct.
Many times I was severely bitten (to the point of blood once) after eating chicken and not washing. Should Chester have been destroyed? No, of course not.
Which would make me suspect that it is false even more so. Most stories like this that are true are usually on the news.Quote:
Originally posted by Soledad
Really? The thing is, I never saw those Scopes.com type stories in the news. Only through emails.
These puppies look large enough to bite tiny fingers to me.
Their large, but it doesn't mean their teeth are strong enough or large.
I've seen puppies that age tear through a rawhide bone and pig's ear. Can you tell me, scientifically, if a six year old's finger bones are so tough that they cannot be bitten off by a puppy?
I think ANY dog can do damage to a finger, especially if hungry. How do we know they even fed the dog and it wasn't starving? One of my rats bit Dylan once so badly he had to have 6 stitches in his finger, because he had the smell of food on his hand. Did we euthanize the rat? NO, why? Because she thought it was food and bit first and asked questions later. Was it our fault? Damn right it was, Dan should have closed the door behind him and never let Dylan in there as he knew that doe was fed through the bars in the past, teaching her that everything that came into the cage was food, not human fingers.
When you become a parent you have a special responsibility to keep your children safe. If I knew my son was paralyzed and could not feel biting I would make sure I supervised my son and the dogs interaction together, since puppies are known to playbite and knawl etc.
You have a good point, Luckies. However, I don't think it's unreasonable that a mother wouldn't think that letting her two sons sleep with their new puppy would end like this.
A friend of mine breeds American Bulldogs similar to that breed and yes they could very much chew off a finger. These dogs are HUGE. Her new 6 month old pup already weighs 125 pounds.Quote:
Originally posted by Kfamr
Their large, but it doesn't mean their teeth are strong enough or large.