I would say that telling me that I'm not a real American and that I should move to France are also personal attacks.
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I would say that telling me that I'm not a real American and that I should move to France are also personal attacks.
I cannot win, can I?Quote:
Originally posted by Soledad
"remeber that everyone here is a special person, and that we have to respect each other, even if we disagree with each others' opinions."
I think she was wondering why no comments were made by you or Paul regarding "pro-war" comments like "go move to France" "you're un-American" etc.
I have "disciplined" people on both sides of the issue, this ONE comment was in this forum. I am sorry that everyone does not see/know everything I tell to everyone, but then again, I'm not. That's WHY we have email and PM's, so all the laundry need not be on public display.
I don't, frankly, think anyone should call anyone un-American right now. Okay?
And anyone is free to move wherever they want, okay?
And you can all think I'm biased toward whatever side you're against, there's not a lot I can do about that other than to say I am TRYING to keep Pet Talk a peaceful place!
So shoot me!
Yes, it was Soledad.
I had a REAL problem too with (a certain member) saying straight out in a post "...........a small, insignificent little country like Denmark!"
and that was not a uncalled for attack? We have PT members from Denmark :confused:
Okay sorry karen. I just saw that we posted our replies to soledad at about the same time- I was really NOT trying to drag it out any further.
You have a tough job and you do it well. ;)
Karen, I'm really sorry, I seem to be the problem here and I have tried to be more positive in my posting, some people just don't want to give up.
Jackie, Perry and Miss Daisy
i would like to thank sweden for giving our soldiers the AT-4 anti tank round (HEAT)........thank you sweden and thank you BOFORS industries.
That's pretty significant!!!!
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Originally posted by jackiesdaisy1935
some people just don't want to give up.
Hey now, I just got here to the 'dog house' yesterday ;)
.....didn't even know this stuff was going-on til' then.
There were a couple of inappropiate comments made is all I ever said. :eek:
Yorkster, Soledad suggested moving to France and I just said maybe it would be a good idea, I never told her to move to France, and I don't recall ever exactly saying she was "Anti-American" or "Not a Real American". Again, words in my mouth.
The person from Denmark called Prime Minister Tony Blair, President Bush's lap dog, whether you like the Prime Minister or President Bush is of no consequence however it is an insult to the two heads of state, one which has been a friend to our country for many years. They were both elected to office by their people and yes I did get angry and called Denmark a insignificant little country, but then I don't appreciate the remarks that he said either.
As far as Anti-war, Pro-war, I don't think there is any such thing.
I don't think there is anyone on here who Loves war, in a sense we are all Anti-war, however some of us understand that we are in war and it is better to keep our troops morale up then it is to protest and let them know we are against what they believe in and feel they are doing the right thing to help the people of Iraq.
I pity the Anti-War protester who goes in the military hospital to visit the wounded young men and women in there and declares to the world that they are proud Anti-war protesters. How would these young men and women feel? Have they fought and got wounded for nothing?
I pity the Anti-War protester who visits a family of the young soldier, man or woman who died in the war and declares to them that they are a proud Anti-War Protester. Has their son or daughter died in vain?
There is a time and place for everything. This is just my opinion and I hope to continue to be positive in my posts and I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
Jackie
I would imagine that anyone visiting this area of Pet Talk, for the first time, after all of these posts have been made would probably be shocked at what they read. But isn't that why this area was created? It's a separate area that we already know was put here for controversial subjects, where people are bound to have opposing views. All Karen and Paul are trying to do is to monitor it, carefully, to make sure that it is being used for the purpose it was intended and that it doesn't get out of hand. And it is up to them, as owners/moderators of this whole forum to make judgement on things that they think are out of line. If we don't like how they do that, no one is forcing us to read this part of Pet Talk, or any of it, for that matter.
This would be a pretty boring world if we all thought and acted alike. Personally, I appreciate the different views, even if I don't always agree.
I hope things can get back on track here, and we can have spirited, yet respectful discussions.
Logan
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Originally posted by jackiesdaisy1935
The person from Denmark called Prime Minister Tony Blair, President Bush's lap dog, whether you like the Prime Minister or President Bush is of no consequence however it is an insult to the two heads of state, one which has been a friend to our country for many years. They were both elected to office by their people and yes I did get angry and called Denmark a insignificant little country, but then I don't appreciate the remarks that he said either.
YORKSTER:
Okay Jackie, I understand where you were coming from when you made the "move to France" comment. I really am trying to understand here.............
However, I still have a problem with saying to anyone (from Denmark or any other country), that their country is "small and insignificent." I find that to be quite a different remark from somebody expressing a dislike for a particular leader. Insulting an entire country is very different indeed.
There are many people in the rest of the world that view Americans negatively (and sometimes for good reason)- I wish we could all act in such a way to prove them wrong!
As for my feeling about the war, I am somewhere in-between you and Soledad:
I completely support our troops and would NOT protest while we are actually at war. I have two people that I am close to that are over there right now, and I pray for all our military daily. On the other hand, I am morally against this war, and not a fan of our leadership right now.
I guess it's bothered me that it seems like there has been too much "you have to be on one side or the other" stuff going-on (on both sides of the issue), and it's not that way at all.
I would really not like to be 'lumped-in' with some of those peace protesters that are using this war to act out their aggressions- those people do not speak for me and what I believe in at all. In fact, most people that are against the war, do not approve or condone their actions, and feel that they are doing more harm than good.
I don't think we are all that far apart about what we believe-
I am sorry that their there have been these misunderstandings, and hope we all can move on and forgive.