McCain/Palin ???

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Originally Posted by sasvermont

Maybe many of us just don't like sarcasm!

I appreciate the fact that everyone has their point to get across, but the more civilized we are the less off track we get.

We all know that you are smart. What I find difficult to understand is why you must spoil that with sarcasm.

Just my opinion. Doesn't make me right!

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Well... Tough. LOL Just because you don't like or cannot appreciate sarcasm is not my problem. But I bet if somebody who said something to/about me that was sarcastic, you would enjoy it. Or if sarcasm is used in a way that makes you agree with it...

I don't see it as spoiling the arguement. I see it as a little spice. This IS the internet afterall. We certainly are not going to solve the worlds problems here. But it sure is fun to talk about it. Yes, fun. I can plainly see that my point of view on most things is in the vast minority here. That is the very reason I like to post about this stuff here. You never learn anything when all you do is talk/argue with people you agree with. Kinda like why our public schools suck. Nobody is ever allowed to fail or get burned and we rarely learn things from success. We learn by failing, then getting up, dusting off and moving forward.

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I get it that you are (right now) a Republican.

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How dare you insult me like that? LOL I am a Libertarian in point of view, but registered as an independant. I was voting for Bob Barr until Palin got into the mix. She is a true conservative with Libertarian leanings and she really has the potential to be part of the winning ticket. That gets her that much closer to the big prize.

OK, sorry people, I do have to post one more time (:() because I feel this may be constructive to the thread.

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Originally Posted by Bonny

You are a Brit! Why should you be concerned about how we Americans vote or feel about our candidates? This is a free country we all have our separate opinions to the issues at hand & will vote accordingly when the time comes. May the best qualified black, white, male, female, democat, republican, WIN. Oh I love my country the U. S. A. Land of the free home of the brave!!!

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Ooook. :eek:

Nice of you to pour all your patriotism down my throat.

I happen to love my country too - land of Harry Potter and Leona Lewis. :rolleyes: ;)

My country is also free; I'm sorry your knowledge of the world is so limited that you did not already know that. If you have ever been to the UK and experienced our culture, perhaps then you would realise the startling differences between our political systems, and why sometimes I find it difficult to grasp America's way of thinking. My bad entirely.

Also perhaps if you knew anything of British PC, you would know that anyone who dared to bring race or religion against a candidate would have their head on the block instantly. We are the most ridiculously PC nation in the world. Heck, you can get in trouble over here for ordering a 'black' coffee! So I am afraid you are mistaken if you took my post as an insult to Barack Obama.

Please point out to me where I tried to change someone's opinion about their preferred candidate, or where I claimed I knew how your political system should be running.

I'm 16 - I haven't yet gained enough experience of politics in my own country to dare to challenge that of someone else's.

I initially replied to this thread as I was shocked to see a vehement reply, and I thought I should inquire about the 'fear' comment to make the post relevent to this topic.

OK, finally onto the bit which I think is useful to the thread.

Why shouldn't I be concerned with how America votes?

You are, are you not, an ally of Great Britain, fighting with us in Iraq and Afghanistan?

You are, are you not, one of the top economic powers in the world?

You are, are you not, a nation which could help to pull us through climate change?

You believe that I should be unconcerned to how America votes? Eesh, I'm almost as concerned about how you lot vote as I am how we vote in Great Britain! Get it wrong and the whole world can be in catastrophe!

Do not think that because the majority of people on this board are from across the pond that I should feel I have to exclude myself from their discussions, Bonny. I have as much right as you to post on whatever topic I like. So what if I want to read threads like this and learn about how things work over there? Where is the problem in that?

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Originally Posted by Miss Z

What is it that you would like credit for? Your opinions? Or that you don't equate cells of the body to a very young foetus?

As for the sarcasm thing, I used sarcasm right here.

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LOL. NO. I want you to think enough of my intellect so that you would not assume I do not know that EVERY living thing has its 'own' DNA. Are you following this now? Your original responce sounded to me like you were trying to inform me that everything has DNA. I know that. LOL

Oh, and if that was sarcasm.... I didn't get it.

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Maybe my sarcasm and your sarcasm are different, because all I saw in your reply to Marigold was spite.

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Well, thats good. Because there was supposed to be a little spite in my responce. Because IMHO, she said something very dangerous.

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The monster thing - is it supposed to make me feel sorry for you? :confused: I was quite vexed by that. It's a shame you feel you have to present yourself in that way. People meeting me in person for the first time could, and have, gotten the impression that I'm common and not much more than a young face. It doesn't mean I try to conform to that image that is so opposite to the real me. Sorry, but you lost me on that one.

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<sigh>

Did we just not discuss the whole sarcasm thing? No, I don't want you to feel sorry for me. LOL That is actually comical to think about.

I LIKE to present myself that way, HERE. Think of me as an actor playing a role. ;)

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Originally Posted by Miss Z

Also perhaps if you knew anything of British PC, you would know that anyone who dared to bring race or religion against a candidate would have their head on the block instantly. We are the most ridiculously PC nation in the world. Heck, you can get in trouble over here for ordering a 'black' coffee! So I am afraid you are mistaken if you took my post as an insult to Barack Obama.

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If that is how you define 'freedom', I want nothing of it.

Adding.....:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

Oh, and if that was sarcasm.... I didn't get it.

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Fair enough, we don't understand each other, what's new? :D

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

Did we just not discuss the whole sarcasm thing? No, I don't want you to feel sorry for me. LOL That is actually comical to think about.

I LIKE to present myself that way, HERE. Think of me as an actor playing a role. ;)

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Once again I find it strange why you like to present yourself as that, but it's OK, I don't need for it to be related as acting to work out that perhaps being challenged gives you a thrill. Glad to have made your day!

I wasn't going to feel sorry for you anyway, so sorry I can't add some comedy into the mix. Gah, nobody's perfect, I suppose.

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If that is how you define 'freedom', I want nothing of it.

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You are welcome to not have it?

I'm sorry I can't change some of the wrongs in my country for you.

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Originally Posted by Bonny

You are a Brit! Why should you be concerned about how we Americans vote or feel about our candidates?

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The economies of Europe and the United States are inextricably linked. That makes it of interest to us who America elects.

Remember, even in the course of political discussions, this is still Pet Talk, so keep things polite and safe for children to read.

And remember, often something intended as sarcasm can be misread - posts on an online board don;t have a "tone of voice" to indicate sarcasm, or facial expression to do so, so be careful what you type, and if you want something to be taken as sarcasm, you'd better add "meant sarcastically" after it to be sure.

Oh, I heard a wonderful talk show and I forgot to see what/who it was becuase I was interrupted.


I was in the kitchen and nearly dropped a skillet with hot grease in it.


A woman came out and pooh-poohed the talk about Palin not having any experience.

She said that SP has MORE experience that the other three bobos combined.


She ran a small city for three terms. ( I think that was her run), then she ran a state, not for an extended period of time, but enough to get the drift.

She also 'ran' her own 'army', The Alaska National Guard-to which the male guest said that it wasn't the same as running the '82nd Airborne Division'.
Gotcha, it's true.

What have the other three done except run an state office under the pretense of representing the state they are from? Really, what does a senator do? Is that a real job? :rolleyes:

I'll give McCain and Biden a nod in the experience box- So that leaves us with a lawyer who sat around and decided when and who he was going to work for. It must be nice to tell someone, "I can't help you, the law is against you."

Now, how will that work in the 'big' picture? Gonna feel comfortable telling a country or region, TFB, it's not our problem? Or "Can you stop killing people for a minute while we talk?"

I heard a poigant story about how BO could not make it to the Dem Convention in Los Angeles. Why? His credit card limit didn't allow him a rental when he got to the airport. He came to El Lay and didn't have the funds to rent a fricken car?

Now, that may not sound like a whole lot.....But, If you fly halfway across the country for a convention and haven't taken the steps to insure you have enough funds to rent a car, it shows what kind of attention you have to details.


I think we can ill afford to put someone into office that can't get from point A to point B because they can't think ahead..:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Miss Z

I like and do understand the concept of sarcasm. :D

Maybe my sarcasm and your sarcasm are different, because all I saw in your reply to Marigold was spite.

The monster thing - is it supposed to make me feel sorry for you? :confused: I was quite vexed by that. It's a shame you feel you have to present yourself in that way. People meeting me in person for the first time could, and have, gotten the impression that I'm common and not much more than a young face. It doesn't mean I try to conform to that image that is so opposite to the real me. Sorry, but you lost me on that one.

I will now back out this thread for I have no further contribution on the trials and tribulations of US politics, and I don't want to get too off topic from the OP.

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Zara, do you know the game of Hockey? This guy has taken a few to
many pucks to the head.:D Just consider the source,ok? He's posting again
after a long absence & loves to argue just for the sake of arguement. This
is not to be taken seriously. :)

I'm just glad we can discuss politics here.

On another board, I posted my surprise (more like shock and awe) at McCain's choice for VP.
I never even considered our Govenor as an option. In no way did I attempt to pursuade anyone to vote for McCain. In no way did I imply that I supported -- or did not support -- this choice.

Another member posted that they could never vote for a person who hunted. I responded that many Alaskan's hunt -- and eat what they hunt and that though I don't hunt, my freezer is full of fish that I caught. And that I would never vote -- or not vote -- for someone based on one issue.

The board moderated posted that they would prefer there be no more political discussion. Sheesh!

You shouldn't judge the world based upon just your little corner of it. Half of Alaska's population does not live near a grocery store. Hunting is not against the law. Many Alaskan's hunt for subsistance. That may not be the norm in your area of the world.

With all the huge problems going on in the world right now, I can't imagine voting -- or not voting for someone -- based upon whether they hunted. :confused:

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Originally Posted by pomtzu

Somehow I have the feeling that McCain cooked his own goose and gave the presidency to Obama. When I heard who he picked as his running mate, I said "WHO??" Of course I will check this gal out further before I make my final decision but I sure would like to ask Mccain "what were you thinking???" Anybody have the same thoughts here? :confused:

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A newcomer COULD be a good idea. She hasn't made deals with anyone to get into power. She hasn't made any promises to big wigs for their support. In her 16+ years in public office, she has had Republicans, Democrats, Independents and Libertarian's on her Staff. She doesn't owe anyone any favors -- and no one party owes her anything.

I think his choice was brilliant. I also agree about hunting being a non issue, if you eat meat your much more humane hunting that buying meat that was butchered in a meat packing plant, if you don't believe me read fast food nation.

I like her and I think he made a wise choice, will it get me to change my vote...probably not but it has got me thinking and its not because she is a woman, its the kind of woman she is.

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Originally Posted by sasvermont

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LOL, I love how so many people on this BB just ignore the people they disagree with.

WEAK.

And stop... Your breaking my heart.

It has nothing at all to do with being weak.

It as to do with realising the fact that this is first and foremost a PET discussion forum, and it's just not worth getting that upset over what are, to the purposes of this board, ancillary issues.

We're here for pets, not politics.