Ally Cat Updates

I have cats on amitriptylin. And YES< the vet said too high of a dose can make them be like zombies. But they are fine. Sterling is a little more subdued than if he did not have the medicine, but in his case, it can be a GOOD thing. The boy is downright PESTY if he spits out one of his pills unknown to anyone! :p Jim still has PLENTY of spunk after his doses. And Mickey (on a lower dose) also could probably use a little more calming down....LOL So it is not a guarrenteed side effect.

but you know what, I hate to say this, but I would rather have Ally drugged than EVIL! LOL (just my opinion.)

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Originally Posted by jenluckenbach

but you know what, I hate to say this, but I would rather have Ally drugged than EVIL! LOL (just my opinion.)

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Ditto... and honestly, until you've experienced her, you have NO idea how difficult she is. Difficult... gosh, that's really an understatement, lol.

I found that very interesting reading Jen, and i have to agree only the person who is experiencing Ally's agression really knows what is best for her, i am sure the drug can work wonders for some cats , just as it does for some humans, just wasn't the right one for me lol, just have empathy for any human or cat that felt the way i did,total zombie from morning to night.

I can only imagine you are at your'e wits end and willing to try almost anything. good luck.

It hasn't made her a zombie, or that drugged up. I wouldn't actually want her to be some drooling cat unable to do anything. It mellows her out, and that's what she needs. It doesn't seem to last a full 24 hrs, but that's ok, as long as she's got some relief and isn't as tormented as she normally seems.

Thats good that it just calms her down, she is not on the amitriptylene though is she? just the other medication,some people need calming down , and some cats do and Ally sure sounds like a candidate for that,you have been through an awful lot with her, i am relieved to hear that this medication is helping her some.

This is so sad... poor Alley. All anyone wants is for her to enjoy life and not see people as evil monsters that need to have their eyes scratched out.

{{hugs}}

Ok, if you really don't want to hear negative news, please do not read. I was really hoping for some kind of better update for the reading, but geez.... it just sounds like she's even worse :eek: :(

This is directly from Nancy:
first, i want to say that i remember you and ally very well because of the situation. if i remember, the owners live across the world and were moving and you offered to take ally for a short amount of time. at the time, i had the feeling they were never taking her back and i am sorry that that was correct.

i remember ally as being nasty nasty nasty. she is one of the nastiest cats i have ever read. she feels exactly the same and no better.

she has a very deep rooted anger. i am not sure if she came this way into the world (it feels like she has) or if this has developed over time(i feel she came this way).

sometimes, when things are this bad i have suggested medication. i do not see medication touching this. is is very very deep rooted. might put her in a stupor for awhile but the anger is still there.

i feel as though she hates everyone. an evil hatred. as i told you before i would not have this cat in my house. she is poison to your other animals and to you and the energy in the house.

i do not say these things lightly. i run a boxer rescue, have 8 pets and work with animals daily. this is a cat that would be better off put to sleep. i do not just mean that you and your cats would be better off but SHE would be better off. it is hard to go through the days with such deep rooted hatred.
you would not be doing a bad thing. this would be the only way she can find some peace AND the others (including yourself) can find some peace.

animal rescue is not just about saving animals, it is also about not sacrificing others as well. i have learned this lesson the hard way.

she is not adoptable. she is angry, unhappy and vicious. she is not workable.

i really think you need to think long and hard about this. like i said, i do not take this lightly and have maybe said this two or three times to clients out of hundreds and hundreds.

this really is not as hard as a decision as you might think if you look at it openly and from all angles.

This makes me cry - poor Ally. Nancy has seemed to be spot on with her other readings, so is most likely correct this time.

Perhaps it would be kinder, for Ally, to go to The Bridge and be happy finally?

{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}

I'm so sorry Jenn.

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Oh no, I'm really really sorry to read this!! :( :( :( That's devastating news, even if it's not really "news" as Nancy said something like that before. Would be easier if Ally had revealed to Nancy whether she wants to live, or be delivered from her pain, and her hatred.

I feel so sad for Ally's poor little soul, because there must have been a reason why she is like that. And I feel bad for you as you're the one who has to deal with the situation.

I'm looking at my girls and see two lovable and sweet little souls, and I wonder what's necessary to destroy a kitty soul like the way Ally's was destroyed. (Strange that Nancy says she came like this into this world, maybe it's some kind of karma?)

OMG, I really wouldn't want to make this decision now... :( :( :(

Kirsten

What a sad situation. For Ally, for Jenn, for her other animals.

((((hugs)))) to Jenn. :(

I'm sorry to hear this but can't say I'm surprised.
I've thought this for a long time.
May God Bless you in WHATEVER you decide to do.

Hi Jenn, Wow, that was hard to read. I'm definitely a believer in the possibility of people being able to do these readings and have used Dr. Monica Diederich a few times but have never used Nancy. I know from reading other posts that Nancy is well respected. Do you think a second reading from someone else could be an option? Dr. Monica has a website and can do it all by email. I think it's 65.00. I know that is alot of money but it could be one last option. I'm not saying that she would come up with a different reading than Nancy, but perhaps some added information that might provide a final clue or possibility.
Also, I'm hoping that despite the reading you just got, that you'll give the meds a try and see if a miracle happens. But I know your plate is really full right now with all of your rescues and with the Woodster on his way so this is more than one person can or should have to take. I'm just so sad for Ally and you. It's hard. :(

I am not someone who would ever turn to Nancy and I would never, ever base any decision on what she says - although I know many of you feel very differently. That out of the way, I'm wondering if what Jennie said earlier about Ally having a mental disorder is true. I think this is possible, and if it is then she is in constant mental anguish - just as you see with people who are, let's say, schizophrenic. I've had a couple of cats who have shown all the symptoms of a mental disorder and they were never content for more than brief periods and certainly never happy. You have taken on the responsibilities of Ally's owner, I'm afraid, Jennie, and you may have to be the one to most truly put Ally out of her constant misery.

Two things. I have had good luck with Prozac, it's made a huge difference to my Taranis and she enjoys her life much more now, and she's not at all "out of it". (She's not one of the ones I mentioned above.) If you want one more really strong effort to get a handle on this, go to the vet and get her on Prozac. Clomicalm will dope her up, Prozac will rewire her to some degree.

The other is this. Have you ever seen Ally looking content? Does she ever lie about looking relaxed? Does she ever play? Is there anything in her life now that would make her want to go on living, if she was able to think that way?

Like everyone else here, I would hate to be in your shoes.

I would not base a decision on one person's reading, any more than I would have surgery on one doc's recomendation.

That said, I am still hoping for Ally to find a home where she can be an only cat. She was pretty happy in her original home until the second cat was introduced, and it all went downhill from there.