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No, I'm not wrong. The only reason he could acquire the handguns was a loophole in the NICS law. Had his mental health situation been reported as required he would not have been able to purchase the handguns.
He also had to lie on the federal purchase form to purchase the weapons.
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Originally Posted by Lady's Human
Yes, you are wrong...
Virginia state law on mental health disqualifications to firearms purchases, however, is worded slightly differently from the federal statute. So the form that Virginia courts use to notify state police about a mental health disqualification addresses only the state criteria, which list two potential categories that would warrant notification to the state police: someone who was “involuntarily committed” or ruled mentally “incapacitated.”[112] ”
Federal law defines adjudication as a mental defective to include "determination by a court, board, commission or other lawful authority" that as a result of mental illness, the person is a "danger to himself or others."[112] Because of gaps between federal and Virginia state laws, the state did not report Cho's legal status to the federal National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and Cho's purchases were not prevented.[112] On April 30, 2007, Virginia Governor Timothy Kaine issued an executive order intended to close those reporting gaps.
Another loophole closed 32 lives too late.
And the other shootings?
Those citations, however, completely disregard the purchase form questionnaire which Mr. Cho could not have answered truthfully and recieved the firearms. There were several issues brought up when the NICS law was implemented, mainly regarding state reporting requirements and making the database truly universal, but the law was ramrodded through the Congress unchanged.
So...what you are saying is the current laws are inadequate to prevent nutcases from purchasing instruments of death?
Have you ever filled out the federal purchase form? It states quite clearly that court ordered psychiatric care is a disqualifier for purchase.
Ceph, I know full well it is legal to purchase semi auto weapons. Every post I made about certain weapons being illegal was in reference to fully auto weapons, not semis. Hell, if semis were illegal I would be slightly illegal myself. :p
My comments about what happened at your school are based completely on media accounts of what happened, and pertain solely to the legalities involved. I wouldn't pretend to know the precise events, who, what where, how, or why, because media reporting is notoriously inaccurate.
I never claimed everyone in the US was a Christian, that was another poster.
A very good post Ceph, if I may say so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceph
You certainly have the ability to hit the nail right on the head.
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Well thankyou Doc....now I can completely disregard my ex's statement that I was animal when we were married.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Goodnow
Now I can rest easy :D
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There are lots of countries with more restrictive hand gun controls than the US....they also don't seem to have as many crazed people running around shooting up school children.
Yes, I would like to see a ban on handguns. Especially concealed handguns. Especially any rapid-fire, semi-automatic...however you want to call them - instruments of death.
And no I am not advocating trampling on any constititutional rights. I am not suggesting disarming the militia. Nor am I suggesting muzzling the press. :D :D
I'd like to see a ban on all guns across the entire world! In fact I'd like to see a law against producing guns!
It seems a lot of people want to own a gun to be able to protect themselves.
I met a girl from Texas a couple of years ago, she told me that she couldn't sleep, unless she had a gun "under her pillow". Isn't that sad!!
If you walk down a dark alley with a gun in your pocket and feel threatened, don't you think you'd use it?
A ban on concealed carry permits even though FBI crime stats show time and again that after states pass CCW laws crime rates go down?
There's a testimonial to emotion triumphing over logic.
The states/cities with the most restrictive gun laws in the country are also home to some of the highest crime rates. NYC, Washington, DC, LA.......
Yep, them thar gun bans really do the trick.
Criminals LOVE unarmed victims.
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Originally Posted by Lady's Human
Just like Canada. it takes an act of God to get a handgun.... yet gun crime is on the rise. Goes up every year.
I hope those stats weren't published by the MEDIA! You know how unreliable the media is!... ;) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
I think if concealed weapons are going to be allowed...we should issue weapons upon graduation from grade school...everybody gets one...it levels the playing field...
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Upon proper completion of the requirements... perhaps ;)
I did qualify it Wom...I said MOST! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by wombat2u2004
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