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They show it on TVQuote:
Originally Posted by pitc9
I myself have not dealt with them but I have friend and family that have. My uncle had a gsdx that had major behavioral problems and he contacted the shelter about returning him as he has a small child. They told him that the dog had been returned to them twice before and if he came back again he would not be put up for adoption again. So my uncle asked for an alternative solution and they gave him the name and number of a behavioralist and obedience trainer. So instead of my uncle returned the dog as he did not want to see him PTS be worked with him with the behavioralist and the trainer. It took awhile but they corrected his behavior and he was a wonderful companion to my uncle until my uncle passed away and he is now with my uncles best friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by pitc9
And for the most part this is my opinion on most kill shelters. I did deal with the humane society in the city I was from in Newfoundland and it was all the same thing. With the amount of animals they have they cannot bother too much to work with those that are problem adoptees. If a dog or cat for that matter has been returned several times it is bye bye baby. You are just not worth the hassel.
Sad but true at least in my dealings with kill shelters and those that I have known.
kittycats delight is right on returns. They would put a pet down as well that was adopted out especially twice before..
I am sorry if I missed the post...how did you manage to solve the problem so quickly?
hmmm..i was gonna ask te same thing! I am confused, how the problem was solved???:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginger's Mom
Chipper had mild seperation anxiety. The trick is, once you put them in their crate, ignore them.
We were putting him in his crate, then cooing at him to be a good boy and that we'd see him soon. Second we'd turn to the door, he'd be throwing a fit.
Neighbors told us he was whining and crying a bit but would settle down after about an hour.
We appologized and explained that he was new and we were working with his anxiety.
Now, we just ask him to get in his crate, give him a toy, and as soon as we latch the door it's as if they turned invisible. No eye contact, don't speak to them, just walk out the door and we haven't heard a peep out of him and our neighbors say he's been quiet during the day while we're at work.
It's also recommended that you crate them occasionally while you are home and then go into a different room. Chipper cried at first, but now he doesn't. And if he got real loud, I'd say "Hush", very firmly and he'd settle down.
There was another complaint. The neighbour was screaming at Chad & wouldn't let him explain... So I picked up the shock collar & stayed with Mr. Biggles for his first correction. I made sure he wasn't being shocked for anxiety, but barking at things. So when he heard the neighbours he barked a couple times & stopped. Then he barked at me, stopped...
In total he barked 10 times last night (from 6pm-1am).
I took him & Bear out for a walk knowing we'd see another dog. Mr. Biggles wanted to bark, but wouldn't.. He ignored the other dog except for a quick glance.
I then left him in the house, while I took Bear out for a pee infront of the house.. Mr. Biggles barked a couple times & stopped.. I came into the house & he was on his couch all happy.
He then cuddled with me on my couch & slept on me while I watched tv.
Then I put him in his crate 30 mins before bedtime.. He whined quietly, I just ignored him... Then he barked, & stopped.. I checked on him & he was sleeping!!!!!!!
Neither dog had an accident for the first time! & both were happy, well rested & playful this morning (that was a first).. I usually have to drag bear off the couch to go outside.
Both wanted breakfast & alittle loving... it was great!
Then I had to put Mr. Biggles back into the crate with his food, so I could leave for work.
Mr. Biggles is getting a larger Kennel soon, so both bowls & a nicer blanket can fit inside it.
I knew it was his barking that was upsetting them both.. cause the more Mr. Biggles barked the worse he acted & the worse bear acted... Now both dogs seem really calm, but not a sad kind of calm, full of energy calm, but not barking all the time & not bouncing off the walls.
We're all happy
well hey if that is what works great! i am glad the neighbors are happy now, and so are you and the dogs! that is all that matters!! :)
So no cookies for those neighbours lolQuote:
Originally Posted by critter crazy
Hopefully this'll get them off our backs & know we were trying to fit the problem & have.
The Security guy was over last night & said hey, your dog has his own MP3 Player lol
The dogs didn't like him too much & neither did I.. he was creepy & staired WAY too much *Yo My face is up here creep!" Atleast he made everything work properly this time & made everything look nice too.. the other guy dissconnected our phone lines to the house, had wires all over the place, & did a shatty job period! Now it looks neat & tidy & WORKS!! Means it wont randomly go off & scare the hell out of everyone.
I'm glad things are looking up for your situation now. I'm not sure I would put food and water bowls in with Mr. Biggles. I'm afraid you might be setting him up to have accidents in his kennel. What does everyone else think? ;)
You think?Quote:
Originally Posted by kimlovescats
They only get fed once a day, so its not like I could just starve him. He has to eat. There is no food in his kennel at night, only for breakfast, as I have to run off to work & Chad doesn't get up until about 11am.. then he lets Mr. Biggles out, until he has to leave. After 3pm Mr. Biggles is free in the house until we go to bed. Thats why I want an even larger Kennel. So he can walk around more. Right now I can fit 2 Mr. Biggles in this crate, but if he could stretch in all directions, I'd feel much better.
I'm thinking of getting a gate & gating him in the kitchen.. Its a tile floor, so accidents are easy to clean up... But I want atleast 2 weeks of no accidents (unless its our fault) in his crate, then I'll move him to the kitchen for a couple weeks & if hes accident free in there for 2 weeks, then he can be free in the house.
Hes not a chewer at all.. So I have no worries about that. I hate the fact that I have to leave him in a crate for so long, but thats why I tried to get a larger one then he needed, so he could atleast be comfy while in there.
Starting next week, I'm going to be getting up at 6am to get them on a more strict feeding schedual.
They'll be fed at 6am
Then I'll have my shower for 30 mins (ya I know long time)
Then I'll take them outside for a longer morning walk until 7am
Then I'll let them do as they please until 7:30am & then I'll take their food away until the next day.
Both dogs are doing great at eatting just kibble, esp Bear.. Bear's food is usually gone by the time I get home & Mr. Biggles just cannot eat as much as the recommend dose is, but hes not skin & bones, & he looks good, so I'm not worried.
I know once I start the stricter feeding schedual, there will be less to no accidents in the house, as their poops will be schedualed & should only be once a day.. & not having a full colon/belly/intestine all the time their bladder will be able to hold onto pee longer & easier, so they wont have to go quite so often.
These 2 are our first Rescues, so it is very stressful on all of us (including the dogs), but its turning out better now. Esp without the crazy barking & finding puddles & logs everywhere all the time.
I'll defently rescue again, as the end result is just so wonderful!! Sure the stress is horrible & I can't handle it all the time (thank god for a car full of gas), but like I saidm its so worth helping to puppers in needs... esp unwanted ones!
Congratulations on resolving the barking problem so quickly. Apparently it wasn't seperation anxiety but just an annoying habit.
I'm a firm believer in feeding twice a day so their stomachs are never completely empty. The possibility of digestive upsets are also greatly reduced with this method.
I agree that leaving food and water in the crate is setting him up for accidents. Leaving food and water in a crate is not necessary unless the dog is going to be in there for hours and hours. They should only be fed when someone is going to be there to let them out within the next couple of hours.
A baby gate in the kitchen is an excellent idea.
Feeding once a day is something I prefer, as long as its 2 cups or less.. anything higher then 2 cups, needs to be broken up into 2 feedings. Bear only gets 2 cups, so I'm comfy with the single feeding.Quote:
Originally Posted by applesmom
Only for now, Mr. Biggles needs his food in his kennel, other wise he wont get to eat until 3pm, if Chad has to leave when he wakes up... thats not fair...
I might start the 6am thing for tomorrow, so he wont have his food in his kennel at all. If I get the bigger kennel soon, He'll have water, as he can't go all day without water... I might buy him a rabbit feed bowl, as they can hang.. I'll rig it so its attached at the back of the kennel so he cannot accidently tip it over.. His kibble is all over his kennel right now.. I head the bowl crashing about lol.. I took the bowl out, so he would have more room & brushed the kibble to the back of the kennel, so he wouldn't lay in it... silly pup.
Its crazy how the doggy gates are so bloody $$.. I got a sweet gate for 20.00 at toys R us back in Ottawa & it worked fine on a BM & that mutt from hell. So it should be just fine for Mr. Biggles lol
Now we need to save up for a temp fence & a wooden fence, so the dogs can run free in our yard... Sure its a small yard, but they can sniff about, play in it & potty. In the summer it'll be nice to leave teh door open & have them come & go to enjoy themselves... I know my old dog liked that (even though he wasn't fenced in, he didn't need it)
How safe is bark bits? Our yard is under a tree so its unlikely we'll get grass to grow.. so I was thinking of covering the larger level (our yard has 3 levels) in bark bits to keep it clean & mud free for the dogs... I'll be planting bushes along the lower fence yard, as its too small for the dogs to play on, & a bushes would look great... I plan to get wild bushes from Chad's mom's place in the middle of nowhere in Ottawa. I like free lol
I would feed them in the early morning as you are, and also again during that 3pm to bed time frame when they are out. I would personally hate to go 24 hours between feedings! ;)
Yes, leaving food and water in the crate will make them either go or be miserable trying to hold it until you get home.
I have never seen/heard of anyone leaving food or water in a kennel before. seems like a disaster waiting to happen. I would feed twice a day. Even if they only get 2 cups, break it up so they get 1 cup in the am, and one in the pm. I know my dogs after they eat, have to go potty within the next 20mins! I couldnt imagine them hoding it all day!!