New Baby!!!!

I am a 'newer' member here and have never understood the whole BYB thing.. yes I know what goes on in them and know that the dogs most likely will have health problems and stuff but in all honesty I don't see anything wrong with adopting a BYB puppy other than the fact that you're 'supporting' it by giving the BYB money.. but as for the dogs themselves they deserve to be loved too just as much if not more than 'respectable bred pups'. They've lived horrible lives and deserve any love anyone can find in their heart to give. Don't just push them aside or 'dispose of them'. All that is is murdering an innocent dog just because it has health issues. That's no better than 'disposing of' a disabled child!

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Originally Posted by BaileysMom

I am a 'newer' member here and have never understood the whole BYB thing.. yes I know what goes on in them and know that the dogs most likely will have health problems and stuff but in all honesty I don't see anything wrong with adopting a BYB puppy other than the fact that you're 'supporting' it by giving the BYB money.. but as for the dogs themselves they deserve to be loved too just as much if not more than 'respectable bred pups'. They've lived horrible lives and deserve any love anyone can find in their heart to give. Don't just push them aside or 'dispose of them'. All that is is murdering an innocent dog just because it has health issues. That's no better than 'disposing of' a disabled child!

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I have a response for this comment too, but I'm not going to get into it here.
If someone wants to start another discussion regarding BYB and let junescrater enjoy talking about her puppy, that would be great.

I disagree with where you are getting your pup from just by first impressions on their site alone, but we aren't going to change your mind nor are we going to change your Dad's mind. And who knows, perhaps the breeder isn't actually so bad. Not everyone is great at creating websites and taking the greatest of pictures to show off a dogs' good qualities. So, congratulations on your new addition and I wish you all the best. There's no doubt in my mind that he will very much be loved and have a great home, but I hope for your sake as well as the pup's, that he will be free of serious health issues. :)

And Buttercup, the pup isn't deformed as far as I can tell. Sure, he has a white stripe on his head. So what? It's a mismark. A breeder would not cull pups with mismarks in most cases, and they also wouldn't sell them for next to nothing. Maybe a little less, but close to the same price as the standard coloured puppies. And I also wouldn't go as far as to say that she shouldn't own a dog period. That's extremely rude and uncalled for. How would you feel if someone told you the same thing? Think about it. I don't want you to reply to me in this thread as it has already gone way off topic, but you really, really need to think before you "speak" sometimes on PT. That being said, I'm glad you edited your post.

By the way- puppies can have a "cow lick" on the muzzle and it is totally normal..

Even in the best of breedings, mismarks can occur. That just means the dog can not be shown in confirmation. I had a well bred poodle when I was a child ( the reason I got into showing dogs in the first place....) and she had a tiny white spot on her chest. She also was the best obedience dog I ever or ever will have- . I got her when I was 8 years old, and the whole reason I got serious about dogs from her success in the obedience ring- etc.
I am not even totally convinced its a white strip. It looks like a cow lick as the hair reverses. Sometimes as the head grows, this becomes more normal in appearance.
In any reason- shape or form- junes wants another pug- has talked about it for over a year, and even said several times she hoped she could find a black one. Its her pet, and we all have the right to have the breed we want- alias the reason we even have breeds...

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Originally Posted by bckrazy

yeah. no certifications. and Pugs are one of the most pre-disposed breeds to hip/elbow/patella/breathing/eye problems. good luck with your puppy, you are taking a total crapshoot, but whatev.

Im kind of shocked by how apathetic this board has become. =|

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before you go judging "the board" you need to realize that most of board now are KIDS who don't know better.


a dog can have health problems where ever it comes from. I am not in favor of BYB but whatever. I also know that people feel very passioniate about them but what you are forgetting is junescrater is a KID! so she doesn't care about our opinion one iota.
Buttercup - 2 steps forward 3 steps back - everytime I think you are getting better you do something to prove me wrong. And its always worse then before. The Majestic Collies thing, this, geez - I don't understand why you are allowed here either. Never have. OH and what about taking a pet to the shelter and exchanging it for another one - I didn't know shelters were like Walmart. I seriously don't get where your elitist attitude comes from you have no right.

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Originally Posted by shais_mom

before you go judging "the board" you need to realize that most of board now are KIDS who don't know better.


a dog can have health problems where ever it comes from. I am not in favor of BYB but whatever. I also know that people feel very passioniate about them but what you are forgetting is junescrater is a KID! so she doesn't care about our opinion one iota.
Buttercup - 2 steps forward 3 steps back - everytime I think you are getting better you do something to prove me wrong. And its always worse then before. The Majestic Collies thing, this, geez - I don't understand why you are allowed here either. Never have. OH and what about taking a pet to the shelter and exchanging it for another one - I didn't know shelters were like Walmart. I seriously don't get where your elitist attitude comes from you have no right.

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APPLAUSE..... Thank you...
We all have what we want. As many of you know, I looked into for a long time adding a dog into my house to compete in obedience with, but have the calm enough attitude to live with 4 Borzois. Right about the time I gave up, Major SHOWED up.. We all have to consider what fits into the household, what we want in a breed, and she has stated for a year she wants a pug- perferably black! She found one- it checks out well enough, and its what she wants and affordable. We should be happy for her- its her new baby, and its funny when someone shows up with a mix breed- strange markings and all - we "ohhh" and "aww"- but does she get the same ? From most yes- ...
JUNES- "OHHHHH"- " AWWWWW" " HOW PRECIOUS AND CUTE PUPPY! GOOD LUCK WITH HIM- YOU MUST BE THRILLED!"

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Originally Posted by Orangutango

I disagree with where you are getting your pup from just by first impressions on their site alone, but we aren't going to change your mind nor are we going to change your Dad's mind. And who knows, perhaps the breeder isn't actually so bad. Not everyone is great at creating websites and taking the greatest of pictures to show off a dogs' good qualities. So, congratulations on your new addition and I wish you all the best. There's no doubt in my mind that he will very much be loved and have a great home, but I hope for your sake as well as the pup's, that he will be free of serious health issues. :)

And Buttercup, the pup isn't deformed as far as I can tell. Sure, he has a white stripe on his head. So what? It's a mismark. A breeder would not cull pups with mismarks in most cases, and they also wouldn't sell them for next to nothing. Maybe a little less, but close to the same price as the standard coloured puppies. And I also wouldn't go as far as to say that she shouldn't own a dog period. That's extremely rude and uncalled for. How would you feel if someone told you the same thing? Think about it. I don't want you to reply to me in this thread as it has already gone way off topic, but you really, really need to think before you "speak" sometimes on PT. That being said, I'm glad you edited your post.

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Yeah. I just read all this. How can people be as so cruel that someone is so excited about a new puppy, and they have to drag down on it. Junes, congrats on the new pup! I know you're probably on edge with excitement and counting down the days that will go ever so slowly. I've been there...lol.

Wow, this is going so off topic.

I'm glad it was brought up that she is young, I love the way people preach on this board. At the end of the day this dog is born and needs a loving home and she is offering just that. If she wasn't an animal lover she wouldn't of joined this site. So its obvious she is looking out for the dogs interest.

Amen muddypaws!!!

I want to apologize to you Junes about my first comment.. I am really happy for you and so thankful that you are willing to open your heart and home to this little guy. Congratulations. He sounds like a little sweetheart. And trust me from experience.. the 'imperfect' dogs are the ones with the biggest hearts. Just look at Bailey.. I wish you the best of luck.

That sweet face of Bailey looks like " welcome newcomer puppy"... Man I love that face!

lol thanks =) i'll have to get some new pics.. omg i feel horrble! i didn't get any of him yesterday! ok i'm officially a horrible mom =(.

again junes, congrats from bailey and me

lol Thanks guys!!! Only 6 or 7 days!!! lol :D

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Originally Posted by junescrater716

Here is what he looks like!!! His parents are on top the fawn and black ones. He is at the bottom. With the white stripe on his forehead.

http://2hugapug.com/mojomale4

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:D he's soooooooooooooo cute! you have to put up more photos of him once he's home for a while!!!! ( can't wait to see more pics!!!!!!!) :D