Pitbulls ??Aggression, Fact or Not???

those are rescue operations and trying to place dogs... I am sorry- after what my friend that went through, as a skilled trainer, wonderful dog I met many times before, to have this happen, I would never risk it... I flat out cant afford to loose my house, the insurance ( if I could get it) etc on this.. Its just not worth it to me.. Not when soooooooo many breeds dont have this problem or even the little rescue in a pound- just not worth it to me.. There is something that snaps in this breed, and you dont know if its your dog, or whatever, but its not worth the stress to me at all..
** btw- I call everyone honey- I am southern.... ***

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Originally Posted by borzoimom

by the way- I am looking at the dogs head posture= the dogs jaws are locked, eyes are fixed, ears up and stare intense.. Please move the baby..

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Sheesh! The lady that owns Maximus had him around that baby many, many times the baby is her sisters. Maximus loved the little guy. He is a mix btw. pit bull, lab. Does THAT make you feel any better?

As far as a pit bulls mind snapping that's a total myth. I'm sorry for what happened to your friend but her dogs mind didn't snap. Was the dog in a fenced yard? Did he jump the fence to get to the ladies dog?

Borzoimom, Maximus is looking at the child with curiosity. You can tell he is not going to attack him. My crew (who are not Pitbulls, but two happen to be 'dangerous' breeds) all look the exact same way when they're around babies.

Anyway, everything positive that I would've said about the breed has already been said. I love Pitbulls. I've never in my life met a more friendly, outgoing, smiley breed. They're an absolute joy to be around. I've met my fair share of Pitbulls, and only one was aggressive. Pits are very abundant in my neighbourhood and I'm constantly encountering them. I find it extremely sad when pitbull owners are surprised at the fact that I don't run in fear from their dogs when they sniff me, wag their tail at me, look at me, etc. An owner should never have to feel surprised at someone liking their dog. I go through the same thing as amny Pit owners do when I'm out with Morgan or Winston (a Rottweiler and a Doberman). Pitbulls were bred for dog aggression a long time ago, and yes, some are still dog aggressive...but breeders are striving to get rid of that. They were never, ever meant for human aggression. I think pits make one of the best family breeds around. They're truly an awesome breed in all aspects. I don't think anyone should fear them more than they fear a Golden Retriever, a Poodle, a Greyhound, or any other breeds people love for their friendly and/or gentle natures. I've been bitten by dogs before, but those were individual dogs (and no, they were not Pits) whom I blame the bite on either myself or the owner. I never blame an entire breed for one dog's actions.

I am only looking at the posture- .. Experience tells me so... And there was no evidence of a "snap" in my friends dog- it just did what it was supposed to do- get into a dog fight- then attacked the lady when she tried to stop it.
We have had 5 pit bull deaths in our county alone in the last year.. A older woman and her little dog, a man attacked by his dogs in his home, a boy at a bus stop etc etc.. They are banned here in the city and have to be registerd by the PD in the whole county area.
I see no "raised eyebrow" on curious- that is not what I am seeing as a ex police dog trainer.. not at all.. that is not what I see.. Please move the baby..

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get into a dog fight- then attacked the lady when she tried to stop it.

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Well obviously shes bound to get bit then.
Just a thought but with all the stupid people in the world today I wouldnt
be surprised if those dogs that "attacked" the people in your community
were from BYB's, people who fight dogs and sell the pups in the paper
and people who didnt care to train them.

She was trying to save her pet in a death hold with another dog- wouldnt you? Now dog owner of the pit is in jail ... Do what you all wish, but its not worth the risk to me when sooooooo many other pets need a home..

Soooooo many GOOD pit bulls need homes also. I would get another one in a heartbeat. Ebony will be 2 in March I've had NO problems with her at all. She lives with 2 other female dogs she doesn't attack them. I'm sure we will all be ok in our household.

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Originally Posted by Jadapit

Soooooo many GOOD pit bulls need homes also. I would get another one in a heartbeat. Ebony will be 2 in March I've had NO problems with her at all. She lives with 2 other female dogs she doesn't attack them. I'm sure we will all be ok in our household.

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I hope so.. I have said all I am going too here.. Its a endless debate but I appreciate your posts but nothing would change my mind. I am just more poliet about it.. lol.. take care..

Lots of breeds end up in the spotlight.For a while it was GSD,Dobermans,Rottweilers and APBT's.It's not the breeds fault it is owned and bred by people with no thought to a standard.
I have Rottweilers and APBT's and they love everyone.
Come to this house and expect to get licked to death.

German shepherds, rottis, and dobermans main purpose was to serve and be guard dogs- this is not the same thing.. not at all.. I had all but the rottie in earlier years but they are guard dogs and socialization and training does it. This is not the same- not at all.. Just like the bull dog was once considered aggressive until the club took hold to change the breed, this wont happen until the clubs do the same thing here... You take care.. moving on now..

And one more thing- I trained rotts for years in my second profession, and they are wonderful with good genetics and trained. My only complaint with a rottie is the cancer incidence in the breed.. its pretty high- but that is a "' my heart issue" and not the dog... Cancer is wide spread in the breed..

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Originally Posted by borzoimom

German shepherds, rottis, and dobermans main purpose was to serve and be guard dogs- ..

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and in being guard dogs they bite people.APBT ares not to be people aggressive at all.
Bad breeders bring this out in the breed.

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Originally Posted by rutylr

and in being guard dogs they bite people.APBT ares not to be people aggressive at all.
Bad breeders bring this out in the breed.

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I wish we could.. then the breed would stand a chance...

My concern I see here is this- even a collie can bite but there is a difference from a bit to going " to the death " mentality in a fight.. A pit wont give up in pain- period.. I have seen some poor pits used as the " chew up dog" that just makes you sick... Its like the breed doesnt know how to quit in a fight when even a rottie or shepherd will.
ONe of my shepherds I bred got a Hero award from the SFPD as he took a bullet to defend his family- but he wasnt the fighter- the intruder was... There is a HUGE difference here... Axel almost died to protect his family, verses this we have had in this part of virginia for years, where for no reason provoked, these breeds are not just biting or attacking but KILLING pets, and people in their path.. For no reason..

I am just now seeing this. I can't believe there are dog lovers that still feel this way about pit bulls. Reminds me of what african americans went through in american history. Talk about prejudice.

Maximus is not looking at the baby that way...sorry you have it completely wrong. I am sickened to read this garbage.