I was rereading some of this thread to find out who are these people you are talking about???
Probably something like this??
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Thus the reason why I HATE our current government.
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Oh gosh, no, that was never my intention! I'm a firm believer in not tarring everything with the same brush. Personally, I love the way things are run in America, in general. Every branch of politics is far from perfect, British politics being very, very far indeed. I suppose we are just a more tightly-run country and we let too much compassion override our politics (the release of the Libyan Lockerbie criminal a prime example), so the idea of people walking around with guns just does not seem right to me.
I stick by that idea; that guns should be kept out of the hands of everyday people; but it's not my country and I accept that. I merely like to be involved in threads like these for my education on such issues. :)
I found this comment interesting as the answer is you're right, at least as far as knives go; it is an offense to carry such blades around with you, other than pocket knives. You cannot buy a knife, razor, axe, etc, until you are 18. However, this law doesn't seem to be being enforced enough, as young, stupid people are still getting hold of them and are roaming around, unchecked, in public.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
We're having a tough time with knife-crime in the London area. I support 100% the stricter legislations on knife carrying that are being brought up in Parliamentary debate. Too many lives are wasted by idiots getting hammered out of their heads and stabbing to death the next person they meet in the street.
Speaking of people you might not want to live next door to...
From yesterday's Orange County Register...
An Anaheim woman shot her longtime neighbor in his shoulder after he politely asked her to stop trimming ivy from his side of a shared fence.
Anita Judith Spriggs, 66, then stuffed her gun in an oven mitt, cut a hole in the drywall of a bedroom and tried to hide the package as police surrounded her house....
She is charged with attempted murder and assault with a semiautomatic firearm.
A t-shirt of course!
President Bush's speech at the state capitol in Charleston, W.Va., on Independence Day in 2004, invoked the nation's highest ideals: "On this Fourth of July, we confirm our love of freedom, the freedom for people to speak their minds. ... Free thought, free expression, that's what we believe," Bush told the crowd.
Ringing words. Unfortunately, the White House advance team didn't get the memo. Or the message.
More than an hour earlier, the advance officials, working with local police, had confronted and ejected a young couple who had come to the speech wearing T-shirts that fit any reasonable definition of free expression. The front of both shirts bore the name "Bush" surrounded by a circle with a slash through it; the back of Jeffery Rank's shirt carried the slogan "Regime Change Begins at Home" and Nicole Rank's shirt read, "Love America, Hate Bush."
The Ranks refused demands to take the shirts off, turn them inside out or leave. Though they were on public property and not being disruptive, they were handcuffed, arrested and charged with trespass. The charges were later dropped, and with the help of the American Civil Liberties Union, the Ranks sued the White House advance personnel for violating their First Amendment rights.
Last week, the government settled the case, admitting no wrongdoing but agreeing to pay the Ranks $80,000. That avoidable expenditure of taxpayer dollars speaks volumes about who was wrong here.
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Perhaps if they had been disruptive they would not have been arrested!
I don't want to hijack the thread, but I have a question please.
May I ask you a question about English Laws & customs . I read a column
on BBC about three people who had been sentenced for the death of a
child. The Police seemed to be saying that they need protect these criminals after
they served their sentences , and they will receive police protection. Is that normal
for England? They sure wouldn't earn any protection from society after
they were out of prison.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/8196143.stm
The UK has alot more controll over its citizens then the USA .gov has. I wont ever go the Las Vegas because it has more cameras then London, I would be willing to go to London however. The UK used to be a very firearm oriented place, its been legeslated out to the point where ordinary citizens are fearfull of even seeing a cop with a firearm, my opinion on the subject.
Crime goes up when the means to defend yourself are taken away. The criminals dont care what weapons they cant legally have, making law abiding citizens victims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Z
Ild say she had a mental issue, Ild love to see how she bought the firearm in the first place. If she has a previous history somebody is going to share a cell along side her.
Late in 2004 a man shot and killed Darrell Abbott of Pantera and Damage Plan by a man whoes mom bought him a firearm, it was illegal for her son to own a firearm for mental reasons. To my knowledge the mother was never charged with a crime she admitted to.
The Ranks were trying to attend a private event, what about the man arrested for wearing a McCain/Palin tshirt the night of the Presidential election?
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How about MSNC editing the coverage of the man carrying the AR 15 at the Arizona Obama rally? How else are they going to say the protesters are racist?
Link.
Sure are obsessed about race, aren't you RICHARD?
I suppose that is easier than dealing with substance!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Ah yes, the baby 'P' case. A very sad story indeed, and one that our social services has received a lot of criticism over.
That is correct, once released from prison these people do have a right to call for police protection (although as far as I'm aware, it is for a limited period of time only. Quite how long that is, I don't know. It varies from case to case). This happens often in cases of a sensitive nature, particularly those involving children.
The 'idea' is that the criminals have served their punishment in prison, and that upon their release they are likely to be subject to further abuse and discrimination from the public, job interviewers, etc. In order for the people in question to continue with their lives without the risk of assualt, or worse, the police protection is there to ensure that.
I must say that in the majority of cases like this, those convicted are kept anonymous, thus police protection is not usually needed. However, for some reason or another, the anonymity request expired.
It's an issue that divides our nation, just as ES explained that gun laws divide America. Many people feel very, very strongly that ex-cons should pay the full penalty for the crime they committed, and should 'get what they deserve'. Others question whether that sort of attitude breaches human rights and that, if someone was wrongly convicted, which does happen occasionally, they would be subject to undeserved hatred and hardship for the rest of their lives.
It's another issue of perhaps considering compassion a little too much in politics.
I think in the UK it's more to do with a lack of fear of being caught and reprimanded. We have far less on-the-beat bobbies than we used to so this sort of crime is much easier to get away with. Also, we keep letting all our petty to moderate criminals out early on 'good behaviour' because we don't have enough prison space to cram them all in. I don't think it's got much to do with self defence, except in Manchester/London gang culture, which do not count for all stabbings.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
But, I am a fan of Racism.
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My attempt at humor stems from the 'historical record' that states the the European settlers came to America/the Americas with guns promptly took it over.
Contessa to me, Conny to you???:p
I may be a tad jealous.
Oops! Does that qualify me as a sinner and a racist?:eek:
But did you see Liz? It appears blue has a crush on both you and me....
He has both our names as his signature! :D
I love it when serendipity and providence collide.
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Thanks Fillmore!
LOL,
As it turns out, people are so hard-wired into the freedom of speech mode, they don't have the "Freedom of Listen" gene anymore.
What is it with the feelings of Verboten Taboo or the "Thing that shall not be spoken of." make me laugh. We are all supposed to sit down, behave and figure out why the world sucks. When we do sit down, someone in the back yells at the people who are trying to get shiat done. It goes something like this, "What are you AHs doing?"
Someone else yells back and the progress is wiped off the board!
I don't carry around the guilt nor the weird "I can't talk about THAT" hangup.
If you think about it long enough, you can pretty much clean up any topic, discuss it and maybe laugh about it?:eek::rolleyes:;)
There are a group of Young, Stupid and woefully bright Am/Mexs that still think that Cah lee fuh Nee Ah belongs to Mexico.
Back in school I had run ins with these idiots all the time. I was once accosted because I wasn't "mexican" enough to participate in a show of "Cultural Pride".
So,
I think these morons can take the state back for Mexico on their own. Upon further review of the clubs and assocs. that promote "chicano" ethics I found that they are just as racist as the racists they 'fight'.
Their politics are nothing special and when any hispanic gets a job, it's always the "First Mex/Am, Hispanic,Spanish" person to do XXXXXXXX.
Hehehehe,
I wanted to be the First American of Mexican Descent from the Hood to climb Mount Everest. Ain't gonna happen because the Cops probably have chased some other poor Mexican up the hill during a car chase.
I really hate it when people pussyfoot-this is a pet site, after all:D-around issues and can't help but pull out the "race cards".
Look, All you All got blamed for the "Dirty Blankets and Disease" that came from Europe.....So you have this guilt thing going and have to fiercely defend yourselves when we deal with each other.
It was all an unfortunate, weird sickness thing that no one could have predicted. I laugh when I hear that accusation come up.
Two film clips that I love to see on the tube are the interviews with the illegal alien in CA and the racist in GA.
I should say that the illegal alien is a racist effer, too!
He's here leaching off the system and then he claims that the WHITE FOLKS won't give him insurance, jobs and ????? He already has his 48 kids in school -on my dime- and he's complaining?
Then you get old Bubba sitting on this tractor, spitting Redman into the dust, saying something like, "They should sen allllllll dem wetbacks back to MESICO where they belong".
There is a delicious irony about this.....Two racists knot heads that probably work for/with each other. The farmer grows the food for the IAs kid and the IA turns bolts at the tractor house.
We all need and have to deal with each other.
The only real thing that separates the groups of people on the planet is that half of them pee standing up.
But that's biology, not Politics and Religion.:D
Some men took guns to large public events where the president is speaking....OH MY Gosh...One of them is black!!!
How many words does it take to try and justify/rationalize making that about race...............555!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32503068...ews/?GT1=43001
More pictures of scary white people with guns!:D:eek:;)
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Before I go on, I want to apologize to all the pink (and color gradients there of) people out there that I may have offended.
I also want to apologize for the Alamo, the fort and not the car rental place.
Taco Bell and the faux chalupas, Making you all celebrate Cinco de Mayo and the awful Tequila Hangovers that follow and for Bill Richardson.
I really want to believe he does have Latin roots, but his last name is way too anglo-cized for me to get behind his cause(s).
I'll have to apologize for Sonia Sotomayor before hand! God knows what mistakes a wise latina will make in the future.
I want to apologize for all the kids that go to spring break in Mexico and come back sunburned, drunk, pregnant, ill or pick up an STD.
I will not apologize for Montezuma's Revenge.
We warn you about the water all the time.
I kinda have to apologize for all the complaints generated about the Frito Bandito, Taco Bell Dog and Juan Valdez, the coffee dude.
JV is actually Columbian, so I have limited authority to speak for him.
So, now that we have all the 'racial' stuff out of the way, can we go back to talking about politics?
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Seriously.
Why are the 'astroturf' people at the THMs so riled up?
YOU work/have a career for a couple of decades and have money taken out of your checks for your "Maidandcare" then wake up one morning and have the idiot you voted into office tell you you are SOL.
Then you are going to tell me that you are going to NUKE the law into effect?
Nuclear was a pretty funny word when it was mispronounced for eight years, now you want me to understand and welcome it when it's pronounced 'correctly' and it's being used to shove a HIR/HCR bill up my wazoo????
Ai Dios!
I can hardly wait for the 2010 elections.
I am going to vote hard and fast, Then ask the politicians to squeal like a pig.
It's gonna be fun being on the giving end this time around.:eek:;)
Regarding Bill Richardson. His father - William Blaine Richardson Jr.
His mother - His mother, María Luisa López-Collada Márquez is the daughter of a Spanish father from Villaviciosa, Asturias, Spain and a Mexican mother.
I think that qualifies him as somewhat Hispanic.
Not according to MSNBC. They said that those men, legally exercising their Rights, are racists. Can a black man call another black man a racist?:confused:
How is this for not making sense?
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Yall sure cant help the huge egos or the hubris either. :D
I knew that. I was just being stupid.
So, Dad's hood gets a shout out and Mexican g-mom don't get jack?
My grandfather was from Spain and G-ma was from Guadalajara-Y que?
Dad married some gal from from Van Nuys, CA and managed to give us his mom's maiden name.
So, I managed to keep my 'heritage' and rather simple last name intact.;)
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María Luisa López-Collada Márquez
ANy relation to the Pina-Colladas?:rolleyes::mad::eek:
There we go....A little levity never hurt anyone!:D
So Liz...if women who chase younger men are called Cougars...what are younger men called who chase older women?:D:D