What did your dog(s) eat today?

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Originally Posted by sooby707

im confused i have always heard that feeding your dog "human food" was bad for them. one of my closest friends dog got stomach cancer for that. i have always heard from vets that ekanuba and iams was the best for them.

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Eukanuba and iams?? no, they are definatly NOT the best food for dogs...raw foods and "people" foods are a bit diffrent..im not feeding my dogs spaghetti and meatballs or mcdonalds..lol..a raw diet consists of RAW meat (and raw vegetables for some people)..never cooked..its extremly healthy for dogs here are some links :)

http://www.rawfeddogs.net/
http://www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html
http://www.rawfed.com/myths/index.html
http://www.rawlearning.com/bigpicture.html
http://www.rawfed.com/

ohhhhhh ok thanx :)

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Originally Posted by sooby707

im confused i have always heard that feeding your dog "human food" was bad for them. one of my closest friends dog got stomach cancer for that. i have always heard from vets that ekanuba and iams was the best for them.

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Hi sooby707 - Welcome to Pet Talk!

You are very right, some "human foods" are VERY bady for dogs. Foods high in fats - gravy, greasy fried foods, etc - can kill a dog. The seasonings, butter, and greese we add to our foods are not good for us or our pups!
However, feeding a diet of all natural raw meats, fruits, and vegetables is completely fine, and in my opinion the best we can give our canines!

Eukanuba and Iams aren't the WORST dog foods, however there are many improvements from them. They certainly aren't the best for them.


Many veterinarians are very poorly educated on actual canine nutrition. In many cases they support and suggestive sell Eukanuba, Iams, Science Diet, etc. because those are the companies that put them thru college. You'll also notice those are the foods they sell in their offices.

If you have any questions on the raw food, or known as the B.A.R.F diet, please feel free to ask in this thread.

Kay

For breakfast my 3 had a puree of banana, eggs and yogurt. MMMM!! Tonight Grant will get his chicken quarter. Sadie and Maggie will have chicken too, but probably a drumstick or back. Last night Maggie and Sadie had turkey neck and Grant had his usual chicken quarter. I have seen tons of improvement in their teeth from this diet. :D I *may* have convinced my mom and aunt to start feeding their dogs this same diet.

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Originally Posted by sooby707

im confused i have always heard that feeding your dog "human food" was bad for them. one of my closest friends dog got stomach cancer for that. i have always heard from vets that ekanuba and iams was the best for them.

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"Human food" is not harmful. My critters expect the last mouth full of what ever I'm eating. The agreement is that if they leave me alone while I'm eating I'll share that last tidbit at the end. Tonight they got left over steak trimmings - after receiving their normal dog food 1 hr before.

Probably the stomach cancer occured because it was destined to occur.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with feeding ekanuba, or iams, or any other other high quality dog food. I feed my 2-3 yr olds Large Puppy Propet formula (27% protein/15% fat). My previous dog got the same brand for 11 years in the performance and maintenance formula. The result has been dogs free of allergies, metabolic diseases, arthritis, gastro-intestinal disturbances, with high energy and over all good health. They usually will consume their food within 30-60 seconds after it is placed in the bowl, day after day, year after year. So much for the evils of commercial dog food.

Pick a premium dog food, and stick with it. A dog does best when its diet is constant. Anything else is just religion.

"There is absolutely nothing wrong with feeding ekanuba, or iams, or any other other high quality dog food."

So, it's cool if we fed my little brother Cap'n Crunch for the rest of his life? :p Sw33t, I will consider it. He loves it, he would eat it every day, he would probably survive on it and have loads of hyper energy... sounds ok to me.

Keep in mind that variety is gooood. Just because dogs survive on kibbles does not mean there isn't plenty of room for improvement, there IS! I don't know why you're encouraging an owner who *does* question the ethics/information behind the massive, corporate, "popular", filler-packed brands to not look into improving her dogs diet. That is what this thread is about! Looking around and considering other ways instead of sticking to what is conventional/easy/familiar. People *should* know what they're putting into their pet's bodies, and they *should* inform themselves rather than listening to every word a conventional vet tells them.

You're right, there's nothing wrong with feeding high quality dog food, however Iams and Eukanuba do not fit in that catagory.

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I don't know why you're encouraging an owner who *does* question the ethics/information behind the massive, corporate, "popular", filler-packed brands to not look into improving her dogs diet.

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I was actually responding to someone who questioned whether or not "human food" was good for dogs.

As stated I have fed and continue to feed my dogs Propet dog food. Since Propet dog food is a subsidiary of Carnation, and Carnation is a subsidiary of Nestle would you not agree the brand of dog food could qualify as coming from a massive corporation? It's quite unclear what filler means? But let's just assume that Propet has this nasty filler. Let's also assume that it's popular - although it probably isn't. So having met all of your criteria, once again here's the status of my two dogs...

Palatability of the food. Do the dogs like eating the Propet food? Well if I ask them around feeding time: Are you hungry? Clover immediately lets out a sound of "woo woo woo", and runs to the kitchen, while Barney starts jumping up and down turning in circles, and races down the stairs to the kitchen. Again food hits bowl and it's gone in 30-60 seconds. Could it be possible they like their food? Now what should be mixed in it to get them to jump through glass windows on the way to their feeding bowls?

No allergies, food skin or otherwise. No digestive problems- outside of when Barney decides to go "raw diet" on a deer bone. High energy levels. No metabolic problems. No arthritis. Exactly how can I improve the health of dogs which are in perfect health by altering diet?

Since you don't seem to believe in conventional Vets, do you believe in the points made in this link given in another thread?

Raw vs Kibble

Every major point or category is easily refuted. How does one inform themselves using non-scientific articles?

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Originally Posted by Kfamr

You're right, there's nothing wrong with feeding high quality dog food, however Iams and Eukanuba do not fit in that catagory.

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My criteria was a brand with at least as high protein/fat as the so called name brands. And of course I wanted something the puppy dog would enjoy eating. Of course I eliminated Purina, Ole Roy as a matter of course. When I found Propet it was before Carnation bought it, and the brand name was Big Red. Ok not too much class to that name, but the ingrediants were in the right order, 30.15% Protein/Fat for the Performance formula, they guaranteed money back if the dog didn't like it, and it cost 1/2 the price of Science Diet, Eukanuba and the other more popular brands. It was a good fit, and any of the neighbor's dogs that I puppy sat also gobbled it down without complaint. So I've never really researched the pluses or negatives of Iams or Eukanuba. Never had the need to.

I'm just astonished by some of these posts.

Well getting back on track here ...

Everyone had a lamb shank today.

They had EVO and yogurt this morning, and chicken quarters and tuna with a bit of olive oil tonight and later some banana as a treat.

I was at the grocery store earlier, unfortunately this one doesn't have near the variety of meats that I wish it did. They don't even sell cow's tongues or beef hearts and I KNOW the grocery store I grew up around had those things, I remember being grossed out by the cow's tongues as a kid :p. They do have beef liver and pig feet. They have pig neck bones too but they look kind of small and I was unsure about them. But there is a meat market near here that just opened not long ago, I'm going to stop in and see what they have.

I wanted to ask about kelp and flaxseed oil. Do you get these from health food type stores? I saw "kelp" in the holistic section of the store but it was in capsule form. I didn't see flaxseed oil at all.

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Originally Posted by K9soul

I wanted to ask about kelp and flaxseed oil. Do you get these from health food type stores? I saw "kelp" in the holistic section of the store but it was in capsule form. I didn't see flaxseed oil at all.

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I got my kelp from a pet supply store. Do you have any smaller, independent type pet stores around your area? A lot of the ones around here carry kelp and flax seed oil.

If you can't find flax seed oil, freshly ground flax seeds work too! :)

dragondawg-Just to make a point, liking the food doesn't matter.. My dogs like their kibble, but it's certainly not the best for them..

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Originally Posted by binka_nugget

Do you have any smaller, independent type pet stores around your area?

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We used to but PetsMart and Petco put them all out of business :(. I can always look online and maybe order some too. Grinding up flax seeds would be easy as well.

I read kelp helps promote healthy thyroid. Tommy has Hashimoto's thyroiditis so I was particularly interested in trying that and seeing what it did.

I ran into my vet at the grocery store tonight at the banana/fruit area. I told him I was getting bananas for the dogs and he laughed LOL. I love my vet :D.

Oh boy.. my guys had lots today. Not a good day for dieting. =P

Since it was Kai's birthday, their meals consisted of Kai's favorites.

Breakfast:
Chicken Back & Egg

Dinner: Chicken Wings, chicken legs, turkey and kelp.

They also had lots of treats, and a piece of liver doggy cake.