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Originally Posted by Grace
How would a CCW lisence allow a criminal to continue to sell firearms illegaly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Davis
What states allow a violent criminal to obtain a CCW? None that I know of.
A friend of mine has a misdemeaner in AK and is forbiden from owning a firearm. So maybe Mr. Davis can explain to me how a man who cant own a firearm can have a CCW?
I wont go into the fact that an Amendment has to be ratified by the States to become law.
This was to be an amendment to the Defense Spending Bill - NOT an amendment to the Constitution.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue
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July 20th, 2009 - Washington, D.C. - Senator John Thune has offered a bipartisan amendment to the Defense Authorization bill (S. 1390) that would help in reducing crime by providing reciprocity for the carrying of concealed firearms. The Thune amendment (#1618) would allow individuals to carry lawfully concealed firearms across state lines, while at the same time respecting the laws of the host state.
etc., etc., etc. . . . . . .
When I go to buy a gun and give info, etc. who OK's the purchase?
And who approves the sale of weapons between private citizens?
I probably could go around and get a gun, origin kinda sketchy, that I could theoretically carry all around the U.S. in my car, and unless I do something stupid or illegal, no one would be the wiser.
It happens all the time and to tweak a law like that is a little like the barn door closing after someone shot my cow in the pasture.
Soemthing good, like a steak, may come of it, but what protected my cow before that?
And yes, I should have fixed that door!;)
I wasnt paying that close attention to the amendement in question, you are absolutely correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
It doesnt change the realities of CCW laws.
There are only two states with unrestricted CCW laws, and in AK if you are convicted of certain misdemeaners you cannot own a firearm so you cannot have a CCW. If you are a convicted [EDIT]of a [/EDIT]felony most Federal laws prohibit firearm ownership, so no CCW permits for felons even in unrestricted states.
Garbage arguement by Mr. Davis.
[EDIT]Maybe Karen can move this CCW discussion to the Firearms thread?[/EDIT]
I cannot move individual posts from one thread to another.
11-12 a.m.
The Prez-
Health Care Blues, (2009) NEW-
The Prez (Barry Obama) tries to win back popularity points he's lost in the last few months with his health care reform program. On the heels of his press conference the night before, he goes on the road to bolster his ego and finds out that the public in Ohio is smarter than he first thought! (Comedy.)
I missed that - do you know if it will be show in re-runs ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
I think I have it on tape someplace.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Grace
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And speaking of budget cuts?
http://www.asylum.com/2009/07/23/arn...s-deep-cuts%2F
:eek::eek:
I saw a bit of that clip. Wondered if he was going to commit Hari-Kiri :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
What make me LOL is Ian Fortey's reaction was...
And Grace's was...Quote:
but if we learned nothing else from Dick Cheney, it's that politicians brandishing weapons only leads to awkward press conferences and paramedics.
Im loving how butthurt the local CA beaurocrats are over the buget cuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
Stupidly. That is all.
Don't forget us poor bees turds that have to live here!;):DQuote:
Originally Posted by blue
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I have to say this about the 'stupidly' comment and invite to the WH for a beer with the jack ass professor...
This would be my answer if I was the cop-
Thanks, but no thanks for the invite.
As prez, you probably have more important things to do than to host a beer bash in the home the taxpayers fund.
I think my fellow taxpayers would agree that a meeting with the prof, while drinking beer, isn't really going to change what happened-your friend and I just didn't have a good day, due to the fact that the race card was played during the incident......
Actually, I may change my mind, Beer and BS go hand in hand.
To be so naive to think that a 'beer at my house' will change race relationships is just about right for the current regime.
If that's the case, budget for free beer in racially diverse cities.
You'll create jobs for brewers, cops, doctors, lawyers, ambulance drivers, paramedics......
:rolleyes:
Obama speaks of "transparency". IMO, this is very transparent. This won't improve race relations one whit. It's so that he can protect his arse. He showed his arse by answering the question that never should've been asked in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
Not all the crackpots are in Northern California!
Here is verbatim a letter to the editor from my local newspaper here in Southern California
I never saw that in any of his obituaries! :rolleyes::rolleyes:Quote:
Letter-writer Paula Finnegan is either too young or blinded by liberal glasses if she gives Cronkite a pass on exposing his liberalism [“Chronicling Cronkite,” July 21]. Does she realize there are a lot of widows of servicemen who died in Vietnam because of his nightly lies and liberal bias? He was instrumental in losing that war.
S. Saline
BBWWWAAAAhahahahhahahahahhahahahaha!
What a bunch of maroons!
It wasn't a black man who was breaking into the esteemed professors's it was a HISPANIC!
I bet the cop was praying for a "latino" to be a suspect....we usually run, the cops beat the crap out of us and THEN we have the charges dropped. Mr. SmartGuy got off easy- what a piker.....
I am really disappointed the cop agreed to go, everyone has a price. But, a bottle of beer, for pete's sake?
The Secret Servce is now looking for contractors to widen the door jambs for their visit.
Imagine getting all the Testicular Fortitude in the room!
Congratulations to Pancho Barnes for making it to the Supreme Court!
;)
I guess we can remove our favorite VP candidate from this forum, turns out she's actually a poet.:eek:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_246034.html
I happened to have been watching Conan last night when the "poetry" was read. You know, it wasn't bad at all. Unfortunately, the origin of the poem was meant to be a sentence of sorts. I thought the concept of turning the jumble into a poem was quite clever. Maybe Sarah should consider a career change and start to work some of the little, off-beat coffee houses.:):):):):o:)
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Originally Posted by Grace
What a interesting character. I would have loved to have met her
in person.:)
One of the more interesting women to have put a mark on history?Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
I was watching PBS last night and they did a small story on the first Black woman to get a pilot's license. She had to go to France to get it and this was in the 30's?.:rolleyes:
This makes me laugh when everyone talks about women politicians. The 'real' women went out and did things they wanted to do 50-60 years before bras were burnt and S-A-X was revolutionized.
That is why SS isn't anything special.
She's a dolt who probably could not name 3 women who paved the way for her to become a SCJ.
There are MANY women in history who have done more, accomplished more and have been lost in the books of time-When you look at PB-flying around in a wood, wire and canvas plane and compare her to the wise latina lawyer sucking up to politicians to get a job?
Please.
SS may look like PB, but I can assure you that Barnes was far more deft, fearless and a real icon compared to some women here in the year 2009.
Barnes was a real woman.
WTF good would an encyclopedia have done for her?;):D
RICHARD, you inform and bring the funnay like no other.
If anybody took that clip seriously, what am I thinking of course people took it seriously! People think the Daily Show is actually news, and now Conan is a news source.Quote:
Originally Posted by catland
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Originally Posted by RICHARD
Do you mean this" dolt" I wish I had a resume that was half as good.
http://judgepedia.org/index.php/Sonia_Sotomayor
Obviously "dolt" and not "anything special" are VERY relative terms!:D:D
She is probably a "twit" too...:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Hmmmmm,Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
I was talking about my "old bag".:eek::rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by RICHARD
Hummmmm, just don't make me come over there.;)
LOL, are you left or rightie?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
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If my bag could talk you would be easily amused! :D
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2-Obam....html?x=0&.v=7
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President Barack Obama's treasury secretary said Sunday he cannot rule out higher taxes to help tame an exploding budget deficit, and his chief economic adviser would not dismiss raising them on middle-class Americans as part of a health care overhaul.
And why, dearest Timmy, is the deficit exploding again?
Health care reform? That has not even been passed into law yet, thus not having had ITS opportunity to fail and thus "require" you to raise our taxes even more....
Not if you increase taxes you moron. You are supposed to be the "smartest econonmist out there."Quote:
"Most private forecasters -- and let's use their judgment -- suggest you're going to see unemployment start to come down maybe beginning in the second half of next year," Geithner said, adding those same economists predict positive growth during the second half of this year.
But then again.... Is everything still going according to plan?
[TINFOILHAT]Yes.[/TINFOILHAT]Quote:
Originally Posted by Puckstop31
Now, DO you really think that it is a wise decision to send Bill Clinton to try and secure the release of those two ding a lings (pun intended) in North Korea is a good idea?
You have to read this while doing BC's voice.
"Hey Barack, I hear you got two young women that need help?"
"I think I could get them out, they'd really be thankful and maybe....."
THUNK!
"What was THAT for, Hillary?":eek:
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http://www.kfsm.com/news/ktla-obama-...0,932295.story
Funny, the last president was seen sporting horn and cloven hoofs and no one cared about that?
I wonder why our new pres has been deemed off limits to a little political buffonery?
Morons.
Again, I apologize for Baba Boxer and Nutsy Pelosi.
I have yet to see any reports of people wearing swastikas or showing up 'well dressed' to the forums where the politicians are getting hammered for their presentations of the regime's HCR!
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And what is it? Health care reform, insurance reform or ??? It changes as the problems mount for the prez!?!:confused:
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Originally Posted by RICHARD
Quit whining about your Calif. Senators. Indiana has some of our own we
try to keep track of.
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Originally Posted by lizbud
Obviously your senators are more well mannered and more in tune with the masses, THAT is why we have never heard of them and would not know them if we saw them on TV.
Quit promoting their invisibility.:eek:;)
If you never heard of Senator Richard Lugar, you are seriously stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
about Politics.
You must understand Liz...some people in California think that it...and they...are the center of the universe and of far more interest and importance than anywhere else! :D;):D It is one of the things that makes living here so...interesting....:rolleyes::rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
What on earth is going on with people these days?
A Democratic Congressman from Maryland, Frank Kratovil, was hung in effigy last month - all because of health care.
Wasnt Bush, burned in effigy? McCain, and Obama where both hung in effigy last year correct? So whats new?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
What did this Lugar fellow do? Is he related to Lex?
I am seriously stupid about politics, at first I thought it was some kind of mental block, now I know it's just plain stupidity-with a little depravity and a dose of anger tossed in to really unbalance me. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
Thank god I live in Cah Lee Fuh Nee Ah, where most of us are Dangerously Stupid, so I don't seem so out of place.;)
I dont pay too much attention to the people running other states, I have to try and vote out the idiots running mine. Hence the whining!
It started out a mumbling, then humming, now whining. You should see me when i toss a snit. It's not funny, really!
I think it is a shame that people have to resort to extreme stuff like this to get the arrogant jerks to listen. But, alas, they still won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
But they WILL approve another $500 million for fancy airplanes for themselves.
The people are angry and justly so. I don't know about you, but I don't want the feds to have a "debit" feed into my bank account... So they can take taxes that way. Its in the "health care" bill. They say that they don't want to destroy private insurance.... Then why deny me the ability to renew my private insurance when it expires? Its in the bill....
The people are angry because this is NOT about health care. Its about what most politicians want. Power. Ask yourself... Ask yourself why is this such a freaking emergency NOW? POTUS took 6 months to figure out what dog they wanted... But they want to shove a 2 trillion dollar bill up our rears, like that? The people are angry because they do not listen to us. We are sick of being talked down to.
Also, never forget that the primary purpose of the 1st Amendment is to protect "offensive" political speech.
The last line of the Declaration of Independance....
"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."
Do you feel that any Congress or President in the past 20 years has been truly worthy to be cast in the same mold as the men who wrote this? Rather than pledging THEIR lives, THEIR fourtunes and THEIR <snicker> sacred Honor... They do just the opposite.
The people are angry and rightly so. If they do not start listening to us, I fear for what might happen.