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The thing that breaks my heart is knowing that poor Tink was left to die without benefit of any medical attention. If she truly had something congenital that was incurable, it was nothing short of cruelty to allow her to die at home in pain rather than spend the $ to have the vet provide her a gentle death.

The mother obviously considered it a waste to spend any more money on a dog that she thought was going to die soon anyway, when they could save that money toward a new, hopefully more healthy dog.

This family appears to have serious financial problems, and they (and their pets) would benefit from counseling to get their priorities straight. They have bought one expensive puppy of a fragile breed, allowed it to die for lack of funds, and now are planning to buy yet ANOTHER equally expensive, fragile puppy just a month later! I have seen Roxy's photos, taken with a photo-cellphone! How does a family short of funds justify a photo-phone? For a 13-year old? Please!!!

Roxyluvsme, how much do you love Roxy?

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Originally Posted by Dot

The thing that breaks my heart is knowing that poor Tink was left to die without benefit of any medical attention. If she truly had something congenital that was incurable, it was nothing short of cruelty to allow her to die at home in pain rather than spend the $ to have the vet provide her a gentle death.

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And don't most shelters offer this service free of cost? I know a few here do!

In all reality I don't think its fair to you, roxyluvsme, for your mother putting so much responsibility upon you and hardly taking any herself. If anything she is to blame here, not you. So don't think any of us are against you. It's just appalling to me that a mother leaves all of this responsibility to her 13 year old daughter to make choices concerning another living creature's life!

This disgusts me. You really need to look at the well-being of the dog you DO have before you start looking at adding another to your household.

This is going the SAME way it does with Roxylovesme. She isn't into listening, she surely isn't into learning, and the problems go FAR beyond Tink and Roxy living on a chain. Soon, the story will begin changing (though, it really already has), people will start crying, "stop being so mean to her, she is just a child" or "it is her MOTHER, not her"..blah, blah.

I say we ALL divert our attention to someone that we have a remote chance of helping than to some little kid that won't listen anyhow. It is sad. Very sad. But, it is a worthless effort on our part.

I hope, in ten years time when you finally grow the heck up (and, who knows, maybe your mother will obtain the maturity and financial responsibility necessary then, too, for both children AND animals) that you remember your part in Tink's death. :(

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Originally Posted by Cataholic

This is going the SAME way it does with Roxylovesme. She isn't into listening, she surely isn't into learning, and the problems go FAR beyond Tink and Roxy living on a chain. Soon, the story will begin changing (though, it really already has), people will start crying, "stop being so mean to her, she is just a child" or "it is her MOTHER, not her"..blah, blah.

I say we ALL divert our attention to someone that we have a remote chance of helping than to some little kid that won't listen anyhow. It is sad. Very sad. But, it is a worthless effort on our part.

I hope, in ten years time when you finally grow the heck up (and, who knows, maybe your mother will obtain the maturity and financial responsibility necessary then, too, for both children AND animals) that you remember your part in Tink's death. :(

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I agree 100% with everything you just said.

I am staying out of this thread from now on. I hope it falls off the board soon. There is nothing more to say, don't bother to waste your breath, Roxylovesme wont listen anyways. :(

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Originally Posted by Cataholic

I say we ALL divert our attention to someone that we have a remote chance of helping than to some little kid that won't listen anyhow. It is sad. Very sad. But, it is a worthless effort on our part.
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Yes, we are just preaching to the choir. In all likelihood, shopping for the new puppy had begun even before little Tink drew her last breath. :(

Did you mean that Tink had Hypoglycemia?? Because that is just low blood sugar, and you need to eat regularly in order to prevent a drop in blood sugar. That isnt what kills you unless you have not eaten and go into a hypoglycemic Coma which isnt what happened, were you saying your vet said that is what she died from?

Having a hypoglycemic attack and being hypoglycemic is two different things. Which is it? It is easily combatible with Nutri-Cal...there's no reason the puppy should have died if it was hypoglycemic.

I'm still confused on why it died. What did it have?

She did not bring the dog to the vet before OR after it died to know what it died from. She claims the dog died because she had a congenital disease, but she honestly does not know for 100% sure because they did not bring her to the vet before or after her death.

This whole situation is really sad :(

all you guys are sayin that just cuz roxy lives outside that she gets no attention and stuff,...well umm glaciers dogs live outside and they seem pritty darn happy to me and i dont see a single one of you complaining about her dogs bein outside all the time....lots of people do it

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Originally Posted by buttercup132

all you guys are sayin that just cuz roxy lives outside that she gets no attention and stuff,...well umm glaciers dogs live outside and they seem pritty darn happy to me and i dont see a single one of you complaining about her dogs bein outside all the time....lots of people do it

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Don't bring Glacier into this, she was drug into the last thread, it is a different situation...

how do u figure?

Go back and read the last thread about Roxy, it was explained there. I don't think its fair to bring her or her dogs into this, you are getting off subject to get the focus off what this thread was originally about.

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Originally Posted by buttercup132

all you guys are sayin that just cuz roxy lives outside that she gets no attention and stuff,...well umm glaciers dogs live outside and they seem pritty darn happy to me and i dont see a single one of you complaining about her dogs bein outside all the time....lots of people do it

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I think you're comparing apples and oranges, here. Glacier's dogs are obviously well trained, exercised and well treated and have tons of land. Their breed also allows for them to be outside. Roxy is chained outside. I honestly can't say whether Roxy is mistreated, but it does seem as if she doesn't get the attention that she needs.

Glacier's dogs aren't the issue here. Back to Kari's (finn's mom's) point, the issue is Roxy being chained outside, a puppy left to die, and now a new puppy being brought into the picture.

Glacier's dogs do come inside occasionaly. Did you not see the pictures of the dogs all on her bed? They all have dog houses and they get lots of exercise.

Her situation is completely 100% different.

Roxy is hardly getting walked. She said that she was too lonely without tink and that makes me think that she is not spending much time with Roxy. I always felt that poor Roxy was being ignored when Tink came alone.


She said she had no new pictures of Roxy becuase something happened [she lost something?] But she posted tink pictures before she died

I am DARN sure she doesn't want to be pulled into this. NOBODY likes to be dragged into a thread when it's NOT about them. JMHO.

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Originally Posted by buttercup132

all you guys are sayin that just cuz roxy lives outside that she gets no attention and stuff,...well umm glaciers dogs live outside and they seem pritty darn happy to me and i dont see a single one of you complaining about her dogs bein outside all the time....lots of people do it

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Yup I did mentioned Glacier in the last thread. Her dogs DO COME INSIDE! Please do not bring her into this, we already talked about it, it was all resolved. Please let it be. Thanks you.

have you guys even talked to bri? no not most of you , you just ASSUME that i know for a fact that she has alot of land and that she dose get attention , how do you know roxy isnt well trained? how do you know that she isnt getting attention and dont pull the whole shes left out there to die cuz we all knwo that a whole load of crap!

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Originally Posted by buttercup132

have you guys even talked to bri? no not most of you , you just ASSUME that i know for a fact that she has alot of land and that she dose get attention , how do you know roxy isnt well trained? how do you know that she isnt getting attention and dont pull the whole shes left out there to die cuz we all knwo that a whole load of crap!

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Because she said so herself that her mom doesn't let Roxy in the house beacuse she isn't house trained.

...Ok...first of all I can't even talk about another dog, and then somebody brings Roxy into the whole situation. This thread was to ask opinions on names, and stuff...Not about Roxy. I think that I will be leaving PT for a while...Tink Was not left to die! STOP FREAKING SAYING THAT! We did everything we could for her, and we didnt even think about another puppy till 2 days after she died. Don't say I dont listen either. YES I DO. Roxy is not left to die! She is quite well trained, she gets fed alot, shes on a LONG chain, not a short one...anyways Like I said I think I will be leaving PT for a while. Roxy is loved very much, and Tink was, too...

I have talked to her on chat and she said that Roxy was TIED on her the side of her house. She doesn’t have a lot of land, I remember saying that the house/yard wasn’t even hers. And what would it mater if she had a lot of land, she is tied up! She isn’t trained, she has never been in the house and has hardly gone for walks. She may not be legt out there to die but she certainly isn’t getting the life she deserves.

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Because she said so herself that her mom doesn't let Roxy in the house beacuse she isn't house trained.

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My mom is never going to let Roxy in the house, because my mom always makes up an excuse, like think about me, she "smells" or she has fleas, or yadda yadda yadda...I even offered to give Roxy a Flea bath...

you seemed perfectly fine with Roxy even before you had Tink. Why is this any different? Just go back to the old way your home used to be, about Roxy. You also have 2 other pets. Like everyone said, train Roxy, she doesn't deserve to just sit outside on a chain, the pictures I ever see are the ones of her outside, none playing, exercising, etc. Please listen to what everyone else is saying.

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I have talked to her on chat and she said that Roxy was TIED on her the side of her house. She doesn’t have a lot of land, I remember saying that the house/yard wasn’t even hers. And what would it mater if she had a lot of land, she is tied up! She isn’t trained, she has never been in the house and has hardly gone for walks. She may not be legt out there to die but she certainly isn’t getting the life she deserves.

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In june-july, I took Roxy on a walk every day...and...Shes not TIED shes connected to a pole, on a 15 foot chain...

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Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13

My mom is never going to let Roxy in the house, because my mom always makes up an excuse, like think about me, she "smells" or she has fleas, or yadda yadda yadda...I even offered to give Roxy a Flea bath...

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And yet your mom wants a puppy??? Your mom needs to get her priorities in check. She really, really does.

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...Ok...first of all I can't even talk about another dog, and then somebody brings Roxy into the whole situation. This thread was to ask opinions on names, and stuff...Not about Roxy. I think that I will be leaving PT for a while...Tink Was not left to die! STOP FREAKING SAYING THAT! We did everything we could for her, and we didnt even think about another puppy till 2 days after she died. Don't say I dont listen either. YES I DO. Roxy is not left to die! She is quite well trained, she gets fed alot, shes on a LONG chain, not a short one...anyways Like I said I think I will be leaving PT for a while. Roxy is loved very much, and Tink was, too...

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This is what they mean, instead of listening to all the valid points people have posted here and try to take their advice you are going to run from the sitution. We know that no matter what is said on here you are still going to do what you want to do, oh and nobody said Roxy is being left to die...I think you and your mom should sit down and carefully read what each person had to say in this thread and maybe just maybe you could see it from our point of view or at least see where everyone is coming from...

If you had done everything she would have been to a vet when she was so sick. Loving her wasn’t going to heal her.

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Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13

In june-july, I took Roxy on a walk every day...and...Shes not TIED shes connected to a pole, on a 15 foot chain...

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15 feet isn't that long, though. My dogs have a 20ft tie-out and that's too short, IMO

edited to add: and 15 feet is just fine for your pup to be on for 15 minutes at a time maybe while they're outside going potty if you don't have a fenced in yard, but 15 feet is NOT suitable for a dog's living area to be confined to.

How can you say you "did everything you could" for Tink when you didn't even take her to the vet before she died? That is not doing everything you can!

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Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13

In june-july, I took Roxy on a walk every day...and...Shes not TIED shes connected to a pole, on a 15 foot chain...

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aka she is tied to a pole :rolleyes:

Who cares about June- July were talking about NOW. Most dogs get a walk at least twice a day and those are dogs that aren't chained outside so Roxy deserves a lot more exercise. So in August, September, and Oct you didn';t walk her!?

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Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13

we didnt even think about another puppy till 2 days after she died

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Okay, there's no rule that says how long you need to wait after a dog dies to get another, but this is a lie. You even posted this exact thread the day after she died.

And we bring Roxy into the situation because her life needs improvement. HOW can you even THINK about a puppy when you have a wonderful girl tied up outside? Whether or not she comes inside I'm sure she's in need of attention, grooming, loving, treats, training, etc. And why is she tied up? Can't your mom buy her a run to have so she can not have a chain attatched to her and risking getting caught on something? Does she even have a dog house? A toy or two? An unlimited supply of water?

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Originally Posted by k9krazee

This is what they mean, instead of listening to all the valid points people have posted here and try to take their advice you are going to run from the sitution. We know that no matter what is said on here you are still going to do what you want to do, oh and nobody said Roxy is being left to die...I think you and your mom should sit down and carefully read what each person had to say in this thread and maybe just maybe you could see it from our point of view or at least see where everyone is coming from...

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I am listening to the points everyone has to say. I'm not trying to run away either, I'm just tired of everybody keeping bringing up Roxy. This thread has nothing to do with Roxy!

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Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13

I am listening to the points everyone has to say. I'm not trying to run away either, I'm just tired of everybody keeping bringing up Roxy. This thread has nothing to do with Roxy!

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If you fully understood our points, you would see that this has everything to do with Roxy.

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Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13

I am listening to the points everyone has to say. I'm not trying to run away either, I'm just tired of everybody keeping bringing up Roxy. This thread has nothing to do with Roxy!

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It has everything to do with Roxy. You want to get another dog, when Roxy's situation can be much better and Tink didn't get the medical attention she needed.

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oh and nobody said Roxy is being left to die

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yes they did...

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Roxy being chained outside, a puppy left to die, and now a new puppy being brought into the picture.

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I'm pretty sure that "A puppy left to die" was reffering to Tink?

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Originally Posted by buttercup132

yes they did...

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Actually, thats about Tink I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by buttercup132

yes they did...

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I think that quote was refering to Tink, not Roxy...

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Originally Posted by buttercup132

yes they did...

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"a puppy left to die" was referring to Tink