...more likely that the vice admiral will be helpful....sigh, what a screw up the whole thing has been. god rest all those souls who died, amen, blessed be
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...more likely that the vice admiral will be helpful....sigh, what a screw up the whole thing has been. god rest all those souls who died, amen, blessed be
Michael Brown sent back to Washington? Hum, guess George
Bush was just BS' ing when two days ago he said that "Brownie
was doing a heck of a job" I'm glad someone clued him in to the
reality.
Like I saw in the LA Times today.....Quote:
Originally posted by lizbud
Michael Brown sent back to Washington? Hum, guess George
Bush was just BS' ing when two days ago he said that "Brownie
was doing a heck of a job" I'm glad someone clued him in to the
reality.
You don't need experience to be the head of FEMA..
apply!!!;)
Is it just me ????
Or does the media (especially CNN) seem a mite disappointed that they may not have the body count in the thousands they were expecting? :rolleyes:
Well, hurricane Ophelia is heading toward the east coast now so that will give them something else to dwell on for a while. I'm praying she doesn't come ashore myself.:(
Anderson Cooper, one of my favorite broadcasters was acting like to JERK to the head of the NOPD.Quote:
Originally posted by momoffuzzyfaces
Is it just me ????
Or does the media (especially CNN) seem a mite disappointed that they may not have the body count in the thousands they were expecting? :rolleyes:
Well, hurricane Ophelia is heading toward the east coast now so that will give them something else to dwell on for a while. I'm praying she doesn't come ashore myself.:(
Ambush journlaism??
Accent on the BUSH.....he ragged on this poor guy over and over..
I really have lost any respect for those talking heads.
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The Lost ANgeles Times ran an article about the levee situation in NO.
Prez JOHNSON had given the green light for the levees to be fixed.
There was a LAWSUIT, AN ENVIROMENTAL LAWSUIT THAT WENT AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT in 1977.
It looks like the treehuggers, thesame groups that I had aligned myself with back then, won that suit...
Fast Forward thrity years......the same people who were against that kind of work are the same people railing against the gov't. for their slow response.
I am embarrarssed.
Don't be embarrassed, I was a flower child my own self!!!Quote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
Anderson Cooper, one of my favorite broadcasters was acting like to JERK to the head of the NOPD.
Ambush journlaism??
Accent on the BUSH.....he ragged on this poor guy over and over..
I really have lost any respect for those talking heads.
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The Lost ANgeles Times ran an article about the levee situation in NO.
Prez JOHNSON had given the green light for the levees to be fixed.
There was a LAWSUIT, AN ENVIROMENTAL LAWSUIT THAT WENT AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT in 1977.
It looks like the treehuggers, thesame groups that I had aligned myself with back then, won that suit...
Fast Forward thrity years......the same people who were against that kind of work are the same people railing against the gov't. for their slow response.
I am embarrarssed.
One thing I noticed, if a reporter is getting an answer to a question they don't like, suddenly, they have to go and even cut people off in mid sentence. Makes me so mad: ask a question then not let them answer. Just waisting everyone's time. They should just say: this is what we think the news is and don't care if it's right or not. :mad: All stations have been doing this. :rolleyes:
El Prez will prolly claim thatQuote:
Originally posted by lizbud
Hmm,
guess George Bush was just BS' ing when two days ago he said that
"Brownie was doing a heck of a job".
what he MEANT was:
"Brownie was doin a heck of a Pee-Poor job"...
Note that George never said "GOOD" job!! :rolleyes:
If you look CLOSELY at most of what George says ...
You can interpret his position at least two ways -
sometimes more! :p
Because "Brownie" was a pres appointee, we should go back to the SENATE who unanimously voted to put him in and lay some of the blame there.
Two things that come outta this.
First,
Half the country wants to blame the other half.
Two,
The people to blame won't step up to the plate.
America,
Truly is the land of Blame and Lawsuits.
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Somewhere there is a bunch of people who "fought the government and won" for the group Save Our Wetlands back in 77.
I hope that they are watching.
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I saw a film clip of the Mexican soldiers who came to help.
The trucks were greeted with waves and cheers as they made their way towards LA.
Two guys were cleaning out a street gutter, One using a tree branch as a broom and the other picking up the trash the first one had gathered, another was moving a piece of tin, the only thing you saw was a pair of legs and arms under the metal....
It's not their country, why are they being nice to us?????
;)
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And the media still clamors for pictures of dead bodies for the rest of us.
Quote:
Originally posted by Cinder & Smoke
El Prez will prolly claim that
what he MEANT was:
"Brownie was doin a heck of a Pee-Poor job"...
Note that George never said "GOOD" job!! :rolleyes:
If you look CLOSELY at most of what George says ...
You can interpret his position at least two ways -
sometimes more! :p
Right, and sometimes we can't interpret it at all.:rolleyes:
" We've got a lot of rebuilding to do. First, we're going to save lives and stabilize the situation. And then we're going to help these communities rebuild. The good news is -- and it's hard for some to see it now -- that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house -- he's lost his entire house -- there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch." (Laughter) --George W. Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005
America is a great place.
We are embroiled in politics, slamming politicos and placing the blame for a natural disaster while the bodies rot in the waters of New Orleans.
For some people do not matter.
It's getting the smell and stench off of their person and placing the dirty laundry on the doorstep of the government.
lolololol,
The OTHER half of the government is pointing the fingers at the half that dropped the ball......
They hope that they can deflect their lack of movement during the
disaster.....
Amazing.
Isn't it wasy to forget that it's one system, and no matter what side you are on it means we ALL FAILED.
For some it's just a matter of being a "D" or "R".
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I saw a film clip of a man, at the NO convention center, holding a three week old baby and yelling, "This is a three week old baby, how do they expect us to care for it....."
First of all that child is your responsibility,
You brought it into the world, you are the first line of care for it.
If you DID NOT PROPERLY take the steps to protect that child's health, then you do not deserve to have children.
Oh please, Richard. Babies that age need formula or at leastQuote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
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I saw a film clip of a man, at the NO convention center, holding a three week old baby and yelling, "This is a three week old baby, how do they expect us to care for it....."
First of all that child is your responsibility,
You brought it into the world, you are the first line of care for it.
If you DID NOT PROPERLY take the steps to protect that child's health, then you do not deserve to have children.
safe water to drink. Those people were there for eight days and
still no supplies were given them.
The guy waving a small baby at the truck..Wasn't it a relief truck? It was filled with National Guard people sent there to finish evacuating people so they could get to the help AND restore order. What were they supposed to do? Nurse the baby themselves?!!!:eek: Besides I think the guy was already AT the evacuee center where there were supplies available. He was NOT at an unsafe location or the guard would have rescued him.
I got sick and tired of people waving infant children and elderly at the camera at the RELIEF CENTER!!! It wasn't like these people weren't at the LAST RESORT HOTEL already!!! Sorry no 500 count bedsheets were available.:rolleyes: I didn't see anything happening there that wasn't brought about by the survivors themselves. The relief workers weren't complaining were they?
Now the NO Mayor is blaming the Fed government???!!!! They interviewed the former mayor of NO on Fox. He told the reporter that when he was mayor, they had an evacuation/emergency plan in place. That plan was to be put into action 3 days prior to the event!!!:eek: Why didn't the current mayor have it working?:(
If I hear about how the poor or colored were neglected in this incident and it being the FEDERAL governments fault I am going to scream. They need STOP blaming the federal government which represents every american citizen. The federal government did NOT put those people in those low lying areas. The local/state government did. How do you think these poor areas get their Federal funding? They first create an area for the poor people to live and then ask the federal government to support them in this effort. Of course the state/local government is going to buy the cheapest property available. (Swamp land) and boost up the bill to Fed. The federal government doesn't care or is given false information from the state/local governments. Hence, the local/state governments are getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar on this one and trying to cover it up.:mad:
I hope this information gets out and people wake up to what is happening in their own neighborhoods. Where do you find your "projects" in your neck of the woods? Is it at "good" property valued areas? Probably not. Should we pay for the "double dipping" of our own local/state governments? NO and even Hawaii put their poorer neighborhoods in almost inhabital property. In Hawaii do you think the property values are lower the closer you get to a volcano or it's potential flow? Let's put the blame where the blame is due. :cool:
Lizbud I totally agree with your comments, and Richard I just cannot believe you even wrote that.:(
Yep, I wrote that.
Oh, I forgot about breast feeding..Where was the mother?
Eight days???
:confused:
Weren't the LATE FEMA , Nat'l Guard and Red Cross there the thursday after the storm?
Look,
Even John Kerry couldn't get there until yesterday....and isn't he a powerful senator?
;)
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Personal responsibility is a fleeting thing here in the US...
Richard, a lot of mothers dont choose to breast feed. They were totally innocent babies.:(
So your saying that because the woman decided NOT to breastfeed her child by the method of which is the ONLY way to give it nourishment in a time of crisis or otherwise, the federal government is responsible?:eek:
Hello!!! It is an EMERGENCY situation!!! People in 3rd world countries aren't as ignorant as to NOT breast feed their own babies despite them NOT having food!!! I've seen pictures of mother's nursing children in Ethopia while they starve to death themselves!!!
I felt NO sympathy for the guy holding that 3 week baby up. I found it disgraceful and quite ignorant.:mad: If the man was giving the child up for rescue, then it would been okay. Instead it was a gesture of "where's my handout?"
By the way, I've been camping longer without food or water than most of these evacuees were without supplies. I am sorry they were without their drive-thu for a day or two.:rolleyes: Americans are spoiled!!!
Yes, those babies are totally innocent...THAT is the reason that we MUST take the steps to protect them, no matter what.Quote:
Originally posted by Jadapit
Richard, a lot of mothers dont choose to breast feed. They were totally innocent babies.:(
They are the future.
People took this storm for granted. They were not prepared.
I cannot see having a child and NOT stocking up for an emergency.
It's like the people I see at a store at night buying diapers. The have money to make the diaper/formula run at 11 o'clock at night-but where was the money earlier in the day?
What is the excuse for running out of diapers or formula
I am sorry, but running out of diapers, formula or baby essential is unforgiveable..
And I will get blasted for this again - small children depend on their parents to care for them. If a person cannot secure the safety and well being of a child in a situation like that they should not have children.
The children, pets and older people are the ones that suffered the most in this disaster.
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This man had nine months to prepare for a baby..
This man had 5 days to prepare for a hurricane.
Yeah, he is poor and doesn't have the money to
lay in supplies FOR HIS CHILD for an extended period of time??
Then he should not be having kids.
That poor kid has no choice in the matter.
It's too late to go back and NOT have a baby, the only thing to do is to make sure that that child is well taken care of.
A diaper bag with four days of supplies for a kid can be stretched to 6 days, easily.
It's up to the parent of a child to make sure it's taken care of.
Holding a baby up to a camera and yelling about the government is not able to care for it shows how prepared this man was to be a parent.
Richard I am hardly going to bash you for your comments, some of them are very valid and I even agree with them, but it is easy for us standing on the side in our comfortable homes to say all these things, I don't think anyone has the right to tell someone they can or cannot have children just because they do not have a six figure bank balance, so the guy was poor and unable to stock up, I honestly did not take the scene the way some of you have, I didn't think he was like standing there asking for a hand out, he sounded to me a desperate man, with a desperate situation on his hands, and I felt sorrow and empathy for him, it brought tears to my eyes, I just cannot understand how some of you can be so judgemental and lacking in compassion.
How many of us are prepared for a national disaster eh? it appears the super power wasn't even!!!!
Carole,Quote:
Originally posted by carole
How many of us are prepared for a national disaster eh? it appears the super power wasn't even!!!!
I live in a land of earthquakes, landslides and civil unrest:rolleyes:
I am prepared.
We Americans bitch about everything.
We are spoiled, lazy and even tho we want the gov't. to leave us alone, we expect them to be there when the fit hits the shan.
The thing that people lack is FORESIGHT.
I do not have any kids.
But I can tell you that when my father was alive he would have
"walked on his lips, thru busted glass" to make sure his kids were safe.
A three week old child is beyond helping himself.
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The clip right before the 'baby' clip showed another gent with a large pair of headphones draped around his neck....
He wasn't a newsperson or pilot.
I took it that there were connected to an iPod or DVD player.
If this guy had enough 'sense' to grab his music and save it from the flood, along with enough batteries to power it, then I think it would be a small matter to have prepared a bag for a child.
This man lived in a hurricane zone. Our government supplies money, food stamps and housing to our poor.
It has nothing to so with a 6 figure bank account.
It has to do with the responsibility of creating a life and being man enough to be responsible for that life.
Taking one can of formula a month, for the preceding months before the hurricane season can be done.
You don't have to be a millionaire to prepare for a disaster.
You just have to have half a brain.
Richard,
I am in YOUR Corner on this issue!!!!
as Bill Cosby said...."You are My Child,I can bring You Into this world,and I can Take You Out!!!!"
The Minute a Mother Knows she is Pregnant,Her Whole Life must Change!!!She must be "Pro-Active' in these situations...Because a 3 week old baby CANNOT fend for themselves....
So when YOU Elect To Have a Baby....You must Weigh ALL Positives and Negatives...and figure What is Best For YOU & Your Lifestyle!!!
And If YOU can Handle it!!
Just a Thought
Having children and caring for them is the one thing in life that can enrich your life beyond any material thing.
I have often envied my brothers and sisters, friends and strangers for being able to have the chance to bring a child into the world, show it love and to breathe character into it's life.
It's a huge job and it doesn't pay you anything........
It's a huge responsibility and it's a life long task.
My mom told me this once.
You have children, you bring them up the best you can and then they tear your heart out.
Some people, by having kids when they aren't ready to care for them, do it backwards-
They have them, tear their hearts out and let someone else bring them up or care for them.
I don't have kids because I do not think I could be a proper role model, safe haven or hero to them.
Selfish?
Yes, and all the more reason to admire and put the people who do have children on a pedestal.
It just galls me to to see people who are supposed to be the protectors, advocates, supporters and parents to small children not using their bean.
Here in the U.S. some babies haven't been born yet and the parents have already picked out a profession, a college and the house they are going to live in....
Why can't some parents plan a few weeks in advance?
I really don't know, but my heart bleeds for these kids knowing the are going to grow up hampered by some knucklehead parents.
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In closing, One media reporter was criticizing the government for not having top ranked schools in the gulf area.
He went on to say something like, "How can a poor kid get an education in an enviroment like that?"
You can tell that to every child who had a hunger for knowledge,
someone who asked, "Why?" over and over again.
Someone who looked at the horizon and thought "What's over there?" of looked into the sky and said,. "what's OUT there?"
They blame it on the government and the money spent, when it starts at home with love and hope invested.
Some of these kids got the short end of the stick.
They were born to a couple who don't care.
They are not encouraged to reach and then some
fricking hurricane really kicks their arse.
Just because life ain't fair doesn't mean you have to toss in the towel.
Sometimes you have to fight.
And when you do, you have a 50 percent chance of winning, and the loser???
No losers there, you went down swinging.