There are other countries and a private train car can help agoraphobia suffering people. I have heard of "having the cake and eating it too" but it sounds like your licking the icing bowl clean then complaining of a tummy ache.
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There are other countries and a private train car can help agoraphobia suffering people. I have heard of "having the cake and eating it too" but it sounds like your licking the icing bowl clean then complaining of a tummy ache.
????? I don't see how that does ANY good when the agoraphobic person can't even leave their front door????Quote:
Originally posted by lbaker
There are other countries and a private train car can help agoraphobia suffering people.
If the house were on fire you would manage, would you not?
I'd manage because I'm not agoraphobic. I don't think you really understand the disease.Quote:
Originally posted by lbaker
If the house were on fire you would manage, would you not?
I don't think you really understand America and the American people. I mean no personal offense and certainly don't want to start anything. I apologise if I sound a bit testy.
LOL Yeah, I can't apologize enough for my family moving to America in 1965, I can't apologize enough for my mother raising me the same way she was raised, and the same way my grandmother was raised, my greatgrandmother, my greatgreatgrandmother, - German.Quote:
Originally posted by lbaker
I don't think you really understand America and the American people. I mean no personal offense and certainly don't want to start anything. I apologise if I sound a bit testy.
But I've lived here 17 years. Get real, Find another person to argue with, over real issues.
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Originally posted by LKPike
I don't like the lifestyle, I don't like the language, 5 churchs and 6 mcdonalds on 1 street, its just not Home for me. My mom wants to move back to Germany too, which would probably make it easier for me to "just leave"
As hosts to people from other countries it doesn't give us a great feeling when our "guests" stay in our home and then relate to us that they are not happy here.
Most people would be amazed that there can be 5 churches and 6 Mc donalds on one street.
That is the real evil America.......freedom of religion, capitalism and the Lady that stands in the New York harbor....welcoming the world to her doorstep.
When my dad showed up at America's doorstep he taught us to be thankful that we live where we do.
And he also taught us that as a guest of this country, years before he became a citizen, that he may not have agreed with what America was all about, He also taught us to be gracious, as a guest of the U.S.
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Originally posted by LKPike
$80 and you wait a month. :p however it doesnt do me much good, when I have only 5-6 months to spend legally in my country, before I have to come back to "great" america.
I don't understand. Why can't you leave? Are you a US citizen? I don't really get all hung up that you don't like it here. I mean, I don't take it as a personal affront to all things American. But, if I was truly unhappy somewhere, I would leave. So, could you educate me as to WHY you can't just leave?
Oh boy, I rarely do this.............but I feel I must............
I was born here..........long time ago..........in a small town in Ohio.
I LOVE MY COUNTRY!!
Not just a little --- but PASSIONATELY!
No, we don't have it all nailed down and perfect..........but we try...........and we welcome people from all over the world who are willing to try as well.
Let me think - well, no, there aren't six McD's on my block or even six churches...........but within easy walking distance there are several Christian churches, a mosque, a temple - I could take my pick of several religions. We all manage to get along.
McD's - yes - there are those along with Carls's Jr. and Bob's Big Boy and a dozen pizza shops - take your pick.
Life style? How about I lead my life style according to my beliefs, and allow you the FREEDOM to live your life style as you choose.
If you have ever traveled around this beautiful country you will encounter so many different life styles your head will spin.
Let's see - I can go shopping and the corner grocery store is run by Pakistani's- the 7-11 is run by people from India. They made a huge improvement - the store is now glistening and clean.
Around the other corner the big grocery store is run by Koreans............or the other larger store - a chain - has someone from a different country at each check-out stand.
Wait, you don't speak English? Let us help you - we will teach you in your native tongue and English. Please don't lose your heritage - it is something to be proud of. Some of the schools have a total of 59 different languages..........yes, that number is correct.
We welcome them all....................
You have a great new idea for a product or service - go for it..........we will encourage you - help you financially and support you.
Whenever I see license plates that say 'I LOVE __________ (fill in the country), I do get upset. You have complete FREEDOM to love that country, but I wonder WHY ARE YOU HERE? Something not quite right back home?
Nope, we don't have it down to perfect yet - and many things are a mess - but we have the FREEDOM to complain - vote out the guys/gals who made the mess in the first place and hopefully get it right.
It means I have to get off my duff - pull myself away from the computer and VOTE and GET INVOLVED. That is what I do as just one person in hopes that I can help make it better.
My family came from Germany in 1856 - never heard one word about any of them going back...............they stayed here - worked hard - made a lot of contributions in hopes that with their new found FREEDOM they could make a difference and they have. I am proud of that heritage - I am strong - because they were too -and they gave me that legacy.
I as a woman, can own my own home, run my own business, do as I please............and I AM GRATEFUL. Each and every single day I am grateful that I was born an American.
Now, the fact that a young woman's miscarriage cost her $18,000. is still an outrage in my mind. Our healthcare system needs to be corrected - overhauled - made more affordable - get the lawyers out of it - and let Doctor's practice their calling as ethically and honestly as they can and make a decent living doing just that.
But even with our failings - I don't plan on moving out of this country any time soon - no, it is my RIGHT to try to make it better for the generations to come.
(gets off soapbox)
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Originally posted by Cataholic
I don't understand. Why can't you leave? Are you a US citizen? I don't really get all hung up that you don't like it here. I mean, I don't take it as a personal affront to all things American. But, if I was truly unhappy somewhere, I would leave. So, could you educate me as to WHY you can't just leave?
This is pretty much how I feel too. After all, it's your mother who
is the agoraphobic, not you. If you are that miserable and you're
an adult, why not? Just curious.
#1 I wont be an adult for 11 more days, which is the main problem, money being the second biggest problem as I'm sure all you mature people know, its not a cheap thing to do. #2, your all acting as if I just bashed this country, which I didn't do. In fact I said: "lol its fine to look at it like that, I'm not bashing America or Americans or anything that they 'gave us'."
If your trying to get me to feel so sorry for you all, tough. but Hey! I'm sure theres a few other nice people online for you all to b**ch at, because they publicly took pride in their countries and homes. ;)
[[so I'll say again, don't be so rude, or childish. You have your opinion and you can say it but it doesn't have to be snotty, especially when I've stayed polite in my responses. I was snitty in my first response because I believe it WAS rude of T&P's Mom to say what she did. ]]
This is just too strange...........I just heard this afternoon that a good friend's stepfather passed away very suddenly.Quote:
Originally posted by caseysmom
My mother dropped dead 2 months after starting celebrex...no problems before that...just be careful.
He had been on Celebrex for one month.
yea..we only have one earth, world is us all. living on earth can be so expensive but you got a free trip around the sun every year! :) with anywho (skins, furries, scales)... anywhere (land, water, air)... anyhow (walk, boat, drive)... anytime (morning, afternoon, evening)... anyday (day, month, year)... after you play so hard with this planet challenges (politics, insurances, taxes, wages ...and such) but hang on with your freedom, civil rights and heart!
To be quite frank Lpike, I find your comments rude, and I am not even an american, there is one thing that really grates on my nerves is when a foreigner comes to my country and does nothing but complain about it, my feelings are GO HOME.
You may well be feeling homesick, but to come online and say what you have like you have amazes me, you go on about Tubby and Peanuts comments being rude, well just look at your's.
When one goes to another country to live, you should embrace that country, its people, its language, its culture, its way of doing things, of course some are not going to be to your taste, but if you cannot do any of the above or most, how on earth can you become accepted or feel that accepted, you get as much back as you put in.
I am an immigrant as well, although my situation differs as I have been her most of my life from a baby, but still I could decide to favour the land of my birth and find distaste with my present country, but I chose not to , because I want to be a New Zealander, who also is proud to be Scottish too, one can be both, you can be a US citizen and proud and a German and be proud.
Just a further comment regarding Agrophobia, it is a very difficult illness to understand, but until you are one you cannot possibly understand completely, as your mother has this, you can have a fairly good understanding of it, I have a girlfriend with this, it is an unfair statement to say, if the house was on fire you would get out wouldn't you? of course she would, that is not what agrophobia is all about, it is not just about the fear of leaving one's home, it is far more complex than that.
I told you I meant nothing personal in my comments LKPike and in fact apologised if I sounded "testy". I think your reply to me WAS "snotty" and rude. My mother was German and except for my brother, son & daughter my only living relatives are German, living in Germany.. they would be appalled at your comments.
It wasn't MY choice to be here, are you not reading correctly? "struggle to leave... #1 problem, #2 problem.."??Quote:
Originally posted by carole
To be quite frank Lpike, I find your comments rude, and I am not even an american, there is one thing that really grates on my nerves is when a foreigner comes to my country and does nothing but complain about it, my feelings are GO HOME.
LBAKER - This argument has NOTHING to do with you. YOU wished to talk about my mothers mental health in a very matter-of-fact way which I did NOT appreciate. Or do you not remember? You people have nothing better to do than pick at each other all day. Keep up with the responses, if you wish to make an actual point.
So, LKPike, you are 17 years old. I had somewhat suspected you were young. You were raised in this country, correct? From birth? What doesn't follow are the following: statements about only being able to be gone 5-6 months at a time (aren't you in school somewhere over here? With 3 months break, at max?). You next mention money, a concern most of us have (so, how is it that you have done any extensive travelling? Certainly not with a mother that has such a condition).
It is one thing to dislike where you are, but, from my perspective, you are suffering a bit from the old 'the grass is always greener...'. I can't see how you have much lived anywhere else but here.
Maybe I am misunderstanding your explanation. So, please go on.
I've been homeschooled since 1998, I travel every 5-6 months thanks to my 2 cousins and uncle in Germany.Quote:
Originally posted by Cataholic
So, LKPike, you are 17 years old. I had somewhat suspected you were young. You were raised in this country, correct? From birth? What doesn't follow are the following: statements about only being able to be gone 5-6 months at a time (aren't you in school somewhere over here? With 3 months break, at max?). You next mention money, a concern most of us have (so, how is it that you have done any extensive travelling? Certainly not with a mother that has such a condition).
It is one thing to dislike where you are, but, from my perspective, you are suffering a bit from the old 'the grass is always greener...'. I can't see how you have much lived anywhere else but here.
Maybe I am misunderstanding your explanation. So, please go on.
Oh, I see. Thanks for the explanation. It just didn't seem to fit if you were in a traditional school setting.
I think perhaps you are suffering from the Grass is greener syndrome, I say that because even though you go to Germany a few times a year, it is basically on holiday, there sure is a huge difference to being a tourist than actually living in a country.
The best thing for you to do is save up hard and move back there, since you consider the home you have lived in for most of your young life not up to standard, I am curious what is it about America that you dislike so? gosh there are people out there who would give anything to live in such a beautiful country, with so much to offer., no country is perfect ya know, as you will soon find out on your return to Germany.
I just hope you realise how blessed you are to live in a land with so much opportunity and to have the choice to live in another land with equal beauty and opportunity's.
I really think LPike there are way's of saying some things, and what you have said here even I would take offfence to if it were about my country, I think most people here have been very polite to you considering your comments.
When you travel how long are you there? Have you ever held a job there? Had to deal with their medical system? Benefits? Insurance? Government?Quote:
I travel every 5-6 months thanks to my 2 cousins and uncle in Germany.
I'm not aruging with you, but I find it hard to imagine how one could think something is so great with only having visited it.
I've traveled a lot and have fallen in love with most of the countries I've visted. Especially Trinidad, I go as often as possible and have an amazing time every time I've ever visited. But when I sitdown and think about it I know I could never live there.
Here in the US, I work a simple job (Starbucks). Yet, I'm able to afford my own apartment, computer, cable television, I have good medical and dental insurance, air conditioning, car, I can vote and many other great things. I can rent or buy any home I want (assuming I have the money) regardless of my gender, skin color or sexual preference. I know that in many countries I wouldn't be able to have half of those things.
My partner and I have talked about moving to Germany in a few years because she wants to teach English there. If I go I will embrace their culture, I know I will not like things, but I would never bash them.
I think unless you have actually lived (rented or owned) and worked someplace else it's hard to get a full understanding of how things work.
I'm glued in Wisconsin. I don't know when the Blackfoot tribe came to America, but it was a long, long time ago. My family (the three current living generations) has never moved out of state, in fact I've only traveled to Florida once and to Minnesota twice in my lifetime. My roots are here and I know how to live here. If I moved out of the country I wouldn't have anybody with me and I wouldn't know how anybody lives. Moving to a new culture takes a lot of effort, not to mention funds that I don't have. I was asked to move to Malawi for five years but I said I'd be dead in a week out of sheer terror of being in a completely alien place. When I say I would love for our health system to change a bit I don't mean I'd like to move to a new country and neither does anybody else. When you guys go through school for sociology and to study stratification you will realize how primitive our health system is and you won't tell people to move to another country when they complain until then I think that these complaints are more than legitimized and you guys shouldn't be so angry about them
Having thought it over I really think LKPike has more serious personal issues to deal with than the state of health care in the U.S. I'm sorry I even ruffled feathers.
Ditto and if she wants out so bad, I sure hope she is able to work that out once she turns 18. Would hate to keep her here against her will, health care or no health care. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by lbaker
Having thought it over I really think LKPike has more serious personal issues to deal with than the state of health care in the U.S. I'm sorry I even ruffled feathers.
Ok breathe. It sounds like we are all suffering asshole syndrome where we all bash each other's heads in and its becoming quite childish. We all just need to step down for a minute and open our minds a bit and realize that everybody has their problems and yelling at anyone to just "deal with it" is not always the best solution for that situation. The original post was to speak out about the health care system in America and I'm sure gini didn't want to start a blood bash.
Since when is apologizing "asshole syndrome"?
I was not speaking only of you
It's b/c she ISN"T an adult. According to her profile she is only 17 altho she has lived a life wayyyyyy beyond her years if you read her other posts.Quote:
Originally posted by lizbud
This is pretty much how I feel too. After all, it's your mother who
is the agoraphobic, not you. If you are that miserable and you're
an adult, why not? Just curious.
That being said - I can't believe I just sat here and read this whole thread. Such a glutton for punishment I am. I normally stay out of the dog house as I try to stay out of trouble. Altho it seems to find me quite often.
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Going to go plug in a Feliway and take a shower......
I was talking with my 87 year old neighbor this afternoon. He has had some recent health problems. Spent 6 days in the hospital was home for about 2 weeks and spent another 6 in there.
The dr has put him on some kind of medicine - he didn't tell me what it was and for 60 pills it cost - get this
$999!!!!! He went to the veteren's place where he gets some of his meds and they didn't carry it, he went to another town about 20 minutes away and their price was
$1400 and the pharmacist wouldn't even take his perscription b/c when they told him where they could get it cheaper he told them to go there.
so he went to the first place and got it for $50 off!!!
so he still paid $949 for 60 pills!