why is it your bussiness what i do?
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why is it your bussiness what i do?
its just a question.
Even though I find this all VERY hard to believe, I have no other proof to justify my beliefs. I was checking about the spay neuter thing because I know some rotten people neuter their cats by themselves. And I didn't want to "assume" so I "asked"
ok why do you find it so hard to believe?
OK I vote that this thread should be ended here and all this can continue via private messaging. I don't think anyone is getting anything positive out of reading these posts. What does everyone think?
I know I'm certainly not the moderator or even a pillar of this board but this stuff is really bringing me down.
Just an idea....please? :)
I think its a good idea, but I just want to know how they get their cats neutered. Some people do it themselves, and I think that is bad, so I just wanted to ask.
AMEN!Quote:
Originally posted by lizzielou742
OK I vote that this thread should be ended here and all this can continue via private messaging. I don't think anyone is getting anything positive out of reading these posts. What does everyone think?
I know I'm certainly not the moderator or even a pillar of this board but this stuff is really bringing me down.
Just an idea....please? :)
Cat Fanatic: I know, and I wanted to hear the answer to those questions too, trust me. I'm not upset at anyone or anything. I am not picking on you or anyone else, I'm just voicing my opinion, take it or leave it. It's just that this thread is getting a little long (6 pages is a lot) and it's not really getting anywhere.
I found it odd, how only a paragraph up you reffered to cats as somebody elses problem.Quote:
You bring a cat into your home to love them and provide the necessities they need to have a happy, healthy life.
So, the breeders opinions on what is "pure" and what isn't is more important than everybody elses? Odd. I love and appreciate what every animal has to offer, but just because you have a fancy peice of paper and a ribbon on your wall doesn't mean your animal is better than mine.Quote:
There are MANY responsible breeders out there who are breeding to better the breed and create more loving, healthy companion animals for those who do love and appreciate what purebreds offer.
I saw the links. They weren't that important. What is important to you isn't always important to everybody else to.Quote:
YOU NEED TO SEE THOSE LINKS, AND BE DIRECTED THEM. We are taking our time to show you these, we obviously find it important. And it IS! Very important.
Ummm...that happens to all living beings at one point or another.Quote:
And what happens to them? They DIE.
Actually, it's a simple procedure, and if researched and performed properly, it can be faster and more effective to going to the vet. Though I've never done it myself, I know people who have. Apparantly that makes them bad people too. I'm beginning to wonder how one goes about becoming a good person...Quote:
I was checking about the spay neuter thing because I know some rotten people neuter their cats by themselves.
Hey Finigan, I saw your thread about Twiggy, I asked a question, not sure if you saw it yet or not. Stop by your thread for a second.
Are you talking about home neutering, like this?Quote:
Originally posted by Finigan
Actually, it's a simple procedure, and if researched and performed properly, it can be faster and more effective to going to the vet. Though I've never done it myself, I know people who have. Apparantly that makes them bad people too. I'm beginning to wonder how one goes about becoming a good person...
http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSWeirdNews0107/26_cat-cp.html
http://www.aztrib.com/index.php?sty=23805
Seriously, home neutering is animal cruelty. I have found no information on the Internet that says there is a way to do it safely and humanely at home. That is an awful sick thing to do to a pet, and any more posts like that will surely get you blocked from this board.
Finigan, since you (claim) to have several pregnant cats- what do you plan on doing with them? I hope you aren't going to neuter the males yourself.
OK, EVERYONE LISTEN UP!
I did not make this thread to argue whats right and wrong and people can and cannot do. I made this thread because i thought people would want to see Scooter, and her kittens when they are born.
Yes i know i have said this already but now i think everyone can see this one.
I f everyone still has questions or comments about me or anyone else, please do that in private messaging. not in my thread, i didn't make this thread for it.
and please do not criticize or unsult others, it is very rude and against the rules.
I might end up deleting this thread cause it is so long and probably start a new one. but i will start a new for dicussing how Scooter is and so on, not all this crap here that half if it was a waist of time.
If you have bad things to say about me that you think you should say, DON'T, otherwise if you think you must say it, Private Message me, and i will probably call you the same thing if you say something bad to me that i really don't like.
This post is not meant to be mean towards anyone, and lets please try NOT to start these kinds of unnecesary things in someone else's threads.
Thanx for reading this and for mostly everyone's cooperation.
QueenChyna
Did I say purebreds were more important than mutts, NO. I am owned by a mixed breed puppy, half Aussie and half lab. Most if not all of my dogs in the past were mixed breeds from shelters, and one purebred from a shelter. I love and appreciate every animal too, but that doesn't mean I should breed them just because they are cute, or I want to experience the miracle of birth, or because I think they will make a good mother. My point was there is NO WAY of knowing the history of the animal, and to breed without knowing the history for many generations is very selfish. What if they carry a hidden genetic default that won't show up until you breed that litter. What if the babies come out deformed, or have major agression issues? What then? All because you wanted to see cute little furballs running around. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Finigan
So, the breeders opinions on what is "pure" and what isn't is more important than everybody elses? Odd. I love and appreciate what every animal has to offer, but just because you have a fancy peice of paper and a ribbon on your wall doesn't mean your animal is better than mine.
I personally would love to see more pictures of Scooter and the kittens once they are born. :) I can't resist cute cuddlies! When do you think she will have the babies? Have you seen a birth before?Quote:
Originally posted by QueenChyna
OK, EVERYONE LISTEN UP!
I made this thread because i thought people would want to see Scooter, and her kittens when they are born.
please use private messaging for that, i looked like you were talking to Finigan, and this is not what this thread is about, i am being nice and polite.
i meant the thread about breeding
yes i also would also like to put up pictures of Scooter and talk about her and today she seemed fine, i think she is getting really close to having them.i think maybe sometime this week.
but maybe I have "the last word in" syndrome"
QSL- Please stop banging your head on a brick wall and don't shoot yourself! The reason you do what you do is because of this kind of finigan and queenchyna not understanding importance of spay/nueter! You were put exactly where you were for what you do (and kim, and jen and Deb, and lisa and Catdad, and Catmandu, and moosmom, ubasson and girlfriend, and jrfrywolf or something- I wish I could remember everyones name., and me, and K and L and so, so many others! It's our purpose, is my guess...)
Finigan would have all us gals go off the pill or whatever because there might not be anymore people if women go on the pill or use IUD's and etc (quick, let me run to my gyno and get it yanked out- no more people! aaaaahhhhhggggggg- heavens! gays are getting married! No more straight people! We'll all be gay!! there will be no more human race!! aaaaaahhhhhhgggg!!!!!! scare!)
I think when ever we see these youngin's post about their proud "breedings" we should have easy access to websites we can put up without having to respond at all. I am not computer savvy enough to do this- I love the article posted by our Miss Munich (soon to be Miss Universe- sorry can never keep your id straight from Miss Arizona!
but very nicely done and your translation was just fine!) and the slide show and of course "Homeless" video. We don't have anything that shows how one litter can produce in 5 years 144 cats (if I remember correctly) That's a handout from the animal rescue league.
ok well thats it, that is the final one because otherwise everyone else will start and so on...
Stop including me in these things in which you ASSUME i don't understand. I understand fully and i did before, i thought i had made my point clear but if you read a couple posts before, you would understand. please don't read like the last 2 posts, read before that, otherwise you are repeating someone else's words.Quote:
The reason you do what you do is because of this kind of finigan and queenchyna not understanding importance of spay/nueter!
This is no a mean post, please do not take it as one.
This thread talks about Scooter and her not yet born kittens.
QueenChyna, we know the reason you made the thread. We know it basically turned into something else. Not the end of the world here.
Also, I see you avoided my question once again. Do you, or do you not neuter your males at home? And if so, how exactly do you do that? If you refuse to answer, that leaves me no option but to assume you do neuter them at home.
And, it's ok if the post was directed toward Finigan. It started in here, it might as well finish. We have threads, so we don't have to PM everybody when we have new events we wish to share.
i wasn't avoiding it, I do not do them myself, i get it done in the city.Quote:
Also, I see you avoided my question once again. Do you, or do you not neuter your males at home? And if so, how exactly do you do that? If you refuse to answer, that leaves me no option but to assume you do neuter them at home.
Ya i know but this thread was getting completely off topic, and i didn't want it to.Quote:
And, it's ok if the post was directed toward Finigan. It started in here, it might as well finish. We have threads, so we don't have to PM everybody when we have new events we wish to share.
That seems to happen a lot here. :pQuote:
Originally posted by QueenChyna
Ya i know but this thread was getting completely off topic, and i didn't want it to.
Anyway, i took a really cute pic of Scooter and Zoe
I think Scooter is practicing up on her motherly skills!lolQuote:
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v290/KTVET/Picture_027.jpg
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_027.jpg ooopsie the post up there was a mistake
So you get it done in a city eh? Just...a city? By who...vets? Or...people who do it cheap?
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_027.jpg
What a cute photo! Is the dog a puppy? That is just too cute! :D Your kitty is very cute as well. She reminds me a lot of CamCamPups kitty. :)
A vet! please stop making it sound like am a really bad person of course i get it done by a vet.Quote:
So you get it done in a city eh? Just...a city? By who...vets? Or...people who do it cheap?
well we are not quite sure what she is but we think she is part Shih Tzu and crossed with something else,but we don't know.Quote:
Is Zoe a border collie?
Zoe is a puppy, and the cat is Scooter
That pic was taken today! and Scooter looks the same on the otherside of her, shes got a big belly.
I suppose this is obviously going nowhere. I see something hidden in your words. I am not making you look like a bad person, just asking questions so I won't seem like I am ASSUMING.
I believe there is more than what you are letting on. If you will not tell us the whole truth, then there is no way I can force it out of you. Best of luck.
i am sorry for getting mad. i am tellingthe truth, but if you don't believe me, oh well then, i don't care
I forgive you for getting mad. However, I still have a strong feeling that you are not telling the whole truth.
Please can we just stop the bickering now and enjoy the cute photo she posted? Lets just move on and agree to dissagree!!!
I have just tonight, for the first time, read through this entire exhausting thread!!!:rolleyes:
All I can say at this point is that this girl is "under 16 years of age"..... but she has been cursed at, yelled at, and totally left defenseless! As a mother of a 15 year old myself, I would be horrified to know that my child was mistreated so on the internet.
I do agree with every point that has been made about rescue work, spaying / neutering, etc........ etc..... etc...... but my goodness, this is a young person here. Can we not lead by example, and be the mature ones here?
QueenChyna, I apologize for the manner in which many of us "adults" have treated you. I do hope that amongst all of the defensiveness you have been dealing with, that you have taken away a bit of useful information!;)
Kim
Cute picture of Scooter and Zoe!
And what if one cannot afford to have the animal spayed in the city? Then what? From my understanding its cruel to keep the cat around pumping out babies, but it's cruel to try and fix the cat at home. Where is the safe ground in that situation?Quote:
Seriously, home neutering is animal cruelty.
Why would I get blocked from a board where I was just stating my opinon, like everybody else?Quote:
That is an awful sick thing to do to a pet, and any more posts like that will surely get you blocked from this board.
Neuter them myself? No, I wouldn't have the stomach for such a thing. I plan on letting them have kittens, and then giving said kittens away to loving home. I know our neighbours already want a few of them, so they should be well off.Quote:
Finigan, since you (claim) to have several pregnant cats- what do you plan on doing with them? I hope you aren't going to neuter the males yourself.
Oh, Finigan undestands the importance of it just fine, Finigan likes taking the side of devil's advocate.Quote:
finigan and queenchyna not understanding importance of spay/nueter!
My opinions on people pregnancies and cat pregnancies are two very VERY different things. If you wish to discuss this with me, please PM me.Quote:
Finigan would have all us gals go off the pill or whatever because there might not be anymore people if women go on the pill or use IUD's and etc
I didn't see what this had to do with anything...but okay...sure, while we are at it, we will try to put words in Finigan's mouth.Quote:
heavens! gays are getting married! No more straight people! We'll all be gay!! there will be no more human race!! aaaaaahhhhhhgggg!!!!!! scare!)
Is it even going to matter how she answers? At this point whatever question you ask has been given an answer, and you just keep pressing the issue.Quote:
So you get it done in a city eh? Just...a city? By who...vets? Or...people who do it cheap?
And everytime you get an answer to the questions it isn't good enough. I don't understand why you ask questions to which you already have the answers in your mind.Quote:
I see something hidden in your words. I am not making you look like a bad person, just asking questions so I won't seem like I am ASSUMING.
Basically, I agree with kimlovescats when she says that a young girl has been abused over the internet, and I think that it is a great thing Scooter is going to have baby kitties. Apparantly I am wrong. Oh well.
I'd really not like to get into this again, but if one cannot afford to have a simple spay or neuter done than perhaps they shouldn't be owning pets. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Finigan
And what if one cannot afford to have the animal spayed in the city? Then what? From my understanding its cruel to keep the cat around pumping out babies, but it's cruel to try and fix the cat at home. Where is the safe ground in that situation?
This is just another thread which pushes hot buttons. We will never get people to see things as we feel they should be seen. Spay/Neuter is the same as the Declawing thread. Why waste time with 8 pages of arguing?
I'm not arguing, merely responding. Those are two very different things IMO. OK, maybe now I am arguing LOL! :p
You know Cass...for someone who chided me about giving Finigan what he wants you sure seem unable to just ignore him. Perhaps you need to listen to your own advice a little better?;)
Looks like this person got exactly what they wanted, to rile everyone up! This thread should just be ignored.