Oh my god..I looked at those photos and just about spit up my lunch.
That is HORRIBLE. Absolutley disgusting, and it should be stopped. :mad: :(
I have no words for this..I am completley speechless..:(
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Oh my god..I looked at those photos and just about spit up my lunch.
That is HORRIBLE. Absolutley disgusting, and it should be stopped. :mad: :(
I have no words for this..I am completley speechless..:(
No, not justified. That was just the difference I was trying to show, which granted, does little to help the animals themselves, but the intentions are so different. Neither care about the animals, I guess, and you're right about that, but that's not what this thread's about. It's about Koreans eating dog, which disturbs me because of the way they intentionally make the dogs suffer, regardless of who how or why the US slaughterhouses operate.Quote:
Originally posted by WolfChan
So somehow the suffernig is justified if it's from people not caring rather than people deliberately hurting it? Do the cattle hurt less because we're not actively *Trying* to make them suffer?
Not that I'm trying to justify the torture of any animal, but that response seemed a bit biased...
And just remember...I'm only sixteen, okay? :) I don't have a whole lot of worldliness but I'm working on it. So be gentle on me.
I'm confused now. Was that supposed to be for me or zanzanfergie?Quote:
So somehow the suffernig is justified if it's from people not caring rather than people deliberately hurting it? Do the cattle hurt less because we're not actively *Trying* to make them suffer?
Not that I'm trying to justify the torture of any animal, but that response seemed a bit biased...
Some of you all can be so hypocritical. Take some time to think about our fur farms and our animal mills. How is that any different? Think about how the Indians feel about us consuming the cattle that they worship.
Korea, China, and the Phillipines are not the only countries that consume dog. I've seen Japanese selling skinned cats, rats, dogs, chickens, and I even saw some iguanas (though still alive) on the street.
Believe me, PETA and many of those anti-meat organizations exaggerate to dramatisize the situations. Humans are omnivores, get used to it.
Oh, and by the way, I noticed that some of those photos had japanese writing in the background. They also don't seem to be too recent, but this is just judging mainly by quality.
One last note, just an FYI, dogs are usually consumed because it is believed to increase penis strength and size.
Thank you rachnjam! ^.^ (Oh, and welcome aboard!!)
Bluekat: sorry, should have specified, I was responding to zanzan.
Since Brian served a year in South Korea with the Army, I knew they ate dog meat. However, I was unaware of their way of preparing the meat. That's the part that really disturbs me. Yes, I understand it's a norm in their culture just like us eatting ham or steak. However, as I said, the brutality to these animals before their even killed is something I think is uncalled for. But, it's their culture. I just ask that they don't bring it to me. I also know Brian was very careful as to what he ate because he couldn't stand the thought of eatting dog meat!
Glad to see you finally posted. ;) :p :DQuote:
Originally posted by rachnjam27
Some of you all can be so hypocritical. Take some time to think about our fur farms and our animal mills. How is that any different? Think about how the Indians feel about us consuming the cattle that they worship........
Now get your butt on down to Pet General and post some pics of your adorable hedgie girl! :D hurry Hurry!
And did you say Rats?:eek:
I watched this video, and it showed the inside of a chinese restaurant and there were skinned rats and dogs hanging from the roof...:oQuote:
Originally posted by luckies4me
And did you say Rats?:eek:
"Humans are omnivores, get used to it." Rachnjam
Biologically, that is true. But people are also what they choose to be.
I'm tempted to refer you to Erich Fromm's "The Heart of Man", a treatise about the human potential for evil. We are everything they say we are, and we are very proud of it!
But there is also hope, as more of humanity notices the connections between life-forms, thinks about the kind of world they want to have.
We kill, we torture, we destroy...
But we also love!
Someone brought up an interesting point to my post. And I wanted to clarify that I wanted them to rot in hell, not because they were eating dogs, as that's their culture, but because of the inhumane way the dogs were treated for consumption.
And you are referring to all koreans in general?
It seems to me that we should worry about how livestock is treated in OUR OWN country before we criticize another.
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Amen. I agree completely.Quote:
It seems to me that we should worry about how livestock is treated in OUR OWN country before we criticize another.
Those who live in glass houses .....
I 100% agree, I was thinking the exact same thing.
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Originally posted by rachnjam27
One last note, just an FYI, dogs are usually consumed because it is believed to increase penis strength and size.
I have been to plenty of sporting events and consumed many dogs there.......
It hasn't done anything for me.:confused:
MYTH???
DEBUNKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Twister..
People who live in glass houses....usually pay more in heating bills!!
I recommend insulation with a higher "R" value, sealing the cracks around windows and doors and double paned windows!
;)
Amusing.
the part that scares me is other people laugh.....Quote:
Originally posted by rachnjam27
Amusing.
of course I live in the "LAND OF THE EASILY AMUSED"
that has it's drawbacks.
I'm always amused!
Congratulations.
thank you very much.Quote:
Originally posted by rachnjam27
Congratulations.
I like to dedicate this award to all the
people out there, my writers and all the people who voted...
I means alot to me!
:confused:
Or, we could worry about animals in pain all over the world, including our own country.Quote:
Originally posted by RubyMutt
It seems to me that we should worry about how livestock is treated in OUR OWN country before we criticize another.
Or, we could realize that we cannot save all of the animals around the world and that we have a much more likely chance at accomplishing something here in our own country.
Let's all go take a tour into one of our many puppy mills.Quote:
Originally posted by dukedogsmom
Someone brought up an interesting point to my post. And I wanted to clarify that I wanted them to rot in hell, not because they were eating dogs, as that's their culture, but because of the inhumane way the dogs were treated for consumption.
Still hoping to recieve a response to my last question in reference to your reply.
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Originally posted by rachnjam27
Or, we could realize that we cannot save all of the animals around the world and that we have a much more likely chance at accomplishing something here in our own country .... Let's all go take a tour into one of our many puppy mills.
I agree with both points!
OK, this thread is getting way too serious and depressing.
Time for a little sick humor ... and since it's the Dog House and all ....
http://users.abcs.com/townsend/cat-kettle.htm
Disclaimer: Do not click if you have no sense of humor. ;)
:eek: :eek: :eek:Quote:
Originally posted by Twisterdog
OK, this thread is getting way too serious and depressing.
Time for a little sick humor ... and since it's the Dog House and all ....
http://users.abcs.com/townsend/cat-kettle.htm
Disclaimer: Do not click if you have no sense of humor. ;)
*faints*
ROFLMAO!! LOVE IT!
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*faints*
I TOLD you not to open it, popcornbird ... I TOLD you.
posted by Twisterdog:I TOLD you not to open it, popcornbird ... I TOLD you. >>>>>>
You have to admit the tune is kind of catchy. :eek:
So it is. LOL Do you know the original? "Cat's in the Cradle" by Harry Chapin. Beautiful, touching song.Quote:
You have to admit the tune is kind of catchy.
(Sorry, Mr. Chapin! LOL)
Omg, I just watched it! :D But they made the cartoon kitty look so darn cute...
posted by Twisterdog:LOL Do you know the original? "Cat's in the Cradle" by Harry Chapin. Beautiful, touching song. >>>>>
Yes, I have heard the song before,
but I do not remember any of the
words. I must admit, I did find myself huming the tune,
when I opened up the @#$% cite. :)
Here you go: :(Quote:
Yes, I have heard the song before, but I do not remember any of the words.
My child arrived just the other day,
He came to the world in the usual way.
But there were planes to catch, and bills to pay.
He learned to walk while I was away.
And he was talking 'fore I knew it, and as he grew,
He'd say, "I'm gonna be like you, dad.
You know I'm gonna be like you."
And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon,
Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
"When you coming home, dad?" "I don't know when,
But we'll get together then.
You know we'll have a good time then."
My son turned ten just the other day.
He said, "Thanks for the ball, dad, come on let's play.
Can you teach me to throw?" I said, "Not today,
I got a lot to do." He said, "That's ok."
And he walked away, but his smile, lemme tell you,
Said, "I'm gonna be like him, yeah.
You know I'm gonna be like him."
And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon,
Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
"When you coming home, dad?" "I don't know when,
But we'll get together then.
You know we'll have a good time then."
Well, he came from college just the other day,
So much like a man I just had to say,
"Son, I'm proud of you. Can you sit for a while?"
He shook his head, and he said with a smile,
"What I'd really like, dad, is to borrow the car keys.
See you later. Can I have them please?"
And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon,
Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
"When you coming home, son?" "I don't know when,
But we'll get together then, dad.
You know we'll have a good time then."
I've long since retired and my son's moved away.
I called him up just the other day.
I said, "I'd like to see you if you don't mind."
He said, "I'd love to, dad, if I could find the time.
You see, my new job's a hassle, and the kid's got the flu,
But it's sure nice talking to you, dad.
It's been sure nice talking to you."
And as I hung up the phone, it occurred to me,
He'd grown up just like me.
My boy was just like me.
And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon,
Little boy blue and the man in the moon.
"When you coming home, son?" "I don't know when,
But we'll get together then, dad.
You know we'll have a good time then."
She wasn't talking about puppy mills. She wasn't defending them, or in fact mentioning them at all. She was just protesting the inhumane treatment of Korean dogs. It's a fair concern, regardless of what's happening in the US, Australia, or Uzbekistan. They're not directly relatable.Quote:
Originally posted by rachnjam27
Let's all go take a tour into one of our many puppy mills.
Besides which, we're only stating our opinions, not taking any physical action. Maybe if we were going to go out and join protest groups we'd do better to focus on our own country. But that's not, as far as I know, the case right now.
Well, tell me how our puppy mills are irrelavnt to the 'inhumane treatment of dogs in Korea?'
Frankly, I see no difference. We are just as bad as others and I believe that we need to start fixing our own country before critisizing others.
Most people don't realize that our country is also full of abuse and neglect, because we are the 'perfect country.'
I agree. I'm just saying you need to realize this isn't only happening in Korea! The meat you buy at the grocery store goes through a very similar process.Quote:
Originally posted by zanzanfergie
Or, we could worry about animals in pain all over the world, including our own country.
Ohhhhhhhh I'm happy I opened it! It was hilarious! So funny that I fainted! :D :p :oQuote:
Originally posted by Twisterdog
I TOLD you not to open it, popcornbird ... I TOLD you.
*Bows* Rachnjam, you voiced my thoughts exactly!
Sure. :) That's why I'm a vegetarian.Quote:
Originally posted by RubyMutt
I agree. I'm just saying you need to realize this isn't only happening in Korea! The meat you buy at the grocery store goes through a very similar process.
Because that's not what we're talking about here. They are two different things. And we are talking about one, and not the other.Quote:
Originally posted by rachnjam27
Well, tell me how our puppy mills are irrelavnt to the 'inhumane treatment of dogs in Korea?'
Maybe so. But Dukedogsmom didn't say "There is a big different between how America treats its livestock and the way Korea treats its dogs. We don't need to fix the US but we DO need to fix Korea". In fact, she didn't mention the USA at all. She merely expressed her opinion on the way dogs are butchered in Korea.Quote:
Frankly, I see no difference. We are just as bad as others and I believe that we need to start fixing our own country before critisizing others.
That's why its irrelevant.
Good point. I don't see anyone contradicting you.Quote:
Most people don't realize that our country is also full of abuse and neglect, because we are the 'perfect country.'
How about if we offer green cards to Koreans to let them work here euthanizing for free at all of our pet shelters and veterinary clinics, and disposing of the carcasses? Our government could help by subsidizing the shipments to Korea, in conjunction with the current aid programs.
And it would save space in the landfills!
(in the spirit of Jonathan Swift)