SAS, I just looked at the picture of the tubes. I didn't realize that so much of Miley's fur was removed. The poor little thing. I am thinking of all of you.
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SAS, I just looked at the picture of the tubes. I didn't realize that so much of Miley's fur was removed. The poor little thing. I am thinking of all of you.
SAS-
How awful. The whole thing, just awful. I am so happy to hear there is an end in sight. Your heart has been torn apart by this, and the events with Gabe and Grammy Crackers just too much to deal with any more trauma. But, despite all the hardship, you continue to put the welfare of your kitties ahead of your own feelings. That is truly remarkable.
Hang in there....
Hugs,
Johanna
I think you are making the right choice. There are cats who need and want to be an only cat. In the past we had a male Aby who did not tolerate other cats or dogs and he had a terrible temper about the whole thing! There were even people he didn't like and he would just walk up and bite them but he was as sweet as can be to us.
Ti sounds like he wants to eliminate the other cats around him so he can be the only cat. Also, Bengals are terribly close in breed generations to wild cats and may not be as domesticated as you need for your well domesticated Abys. As much pain as he's brought, I know you still care for him and your own efforts to rehome him will give you greater comfort in knowing he will be well cared for. He will probably be happier where the stress is lower and he runs the place. Cats can and do share your pain and I know he is aware that there's something wrong but not that he is the source of the pain.
Follow your heart.
I don't recall saying anything about agressiveness, but maybe I should have. Puncture wounds that would require tubes (I would imagine for fluid drainage) would suggest an agressive attack. Vicious is another word I didn't use, nor implied, in relation to the Bengal breed. I do share my home with three myself. I simply stated that Ti is clearly dominant over Miley. I do believe sasvermont is doing the best thing by rehoming Ti.
As I stated earlier, I did not want to post this to be mean, only to share my observations so they could possibily help with any cat additions. Sometimes it helps to get an outside view when so much emotion is involved. That was my truly only intention.
As for Luckies4Me
I have seen your stories as well. I don't even feel I should waste good computer time addressing your pretentious posts about everything you know about every animal that graces this world. But, alas, I've already begun. And come to think of it, I'll leave it at that.
I never said I know everything about every animal, but yes I do know a lot about plenty of animals. It comes from years of keeping them as pets....experience. :rolleyes:
I didn't hear from the nice breeder last night so I will call her some time today. I didn't play on the internet last night to keep the phone line open.
This AM I will take Ms. Miley to the vet to have the tubing removed. The tubing by the way, is tucked under her skin and out the other end of her leg, to keep the wound open and able to have meds applied. After today it will be necessary for me to only apply the cream - and of course pill her. She is cooperative but not thrilled with me afterwards.
NotSoFluffy - it would have been good to have your input much earlier in this mess. I will "let go" of any strong feelings I have about some of your comments, epecially the one about Lucky4me. Maybe I read too much into them; more than I should have.... Life goes on.
I am not sure anyone of us has the answers to this mess. I suspect it will work it's way out over time. Ti is ok on the porch and so is everyone else. I am not treating him cruely - as he does roam the Camp from time to time but always ends up on the porch! He will be rehomed.
Miley is happier by the day - eating up a storm, using her scratching post (and my headboard <--- something new this week)..... and she is playing with and grooming Juni. I have no worries about those two getting along.
Well, off to play with Ti Ti and get Miley into her carrier!
L,
SAS
Great news about Miley. Does my heart good to hear this. She is a resiliant one thank goodness.:DQuote:
Originally posted by sasvermont
Miley is happier by the day - eating up a storm, using her scratching post (and my headboard <--- something new this week)..... and she is playing with and grooming Juni. I have no worries about those two getting along
Guys (or gals), do not take it so closely. I am sure, NotSoFluffy didn't mean anything offensive. She was just trying to be helpful.
I feel bad when people start discussing an issue and, suddenly, they start saying to each other things...
I am glad Miley is better than before. I hope after TiTi is re-homed, we get to see more pictures of the cute little girl and also Juni Rose :) We need them. I hope to see happy faces on those pictures!
This is actually the first time I write in this forum and this topic is the reason why I am now registered. Your story tugged at my heart so much and I've been through something like that years before...it's like emotions run wild...one day is sunshine and the other rain (or thunderstorm)...
I am glad you've found a solution to it and I know that this is just the right decision...
Our relation to our furry friends is not so very different to our friendships with other humans...some are meant for a reason, some for a season and some for a lifetime...sometimes things just don't work out as we want them to be...THAT'S LIFE!
But I think we all learned from your situation that cats are indeed as individual as each living being...some are meant to stay with us and our families and some just never fit in right...we have to accept their choices as well and here your cats have made the final choice and I'm really glad you've listened to them!
And now go on and enjoy life with beautiful Miley and her little sister Juni Rose! Please!!!
Thank you for such kind and gentle words. I know that some folks here feel the same way you do about this mess I have created. It is so far out of my control now! Your words just warmed my heart so and brightened my day! Thank you.
Miley survived the Vet's handling this morning. She is SO good at the Vet's. He flushed the site again, took more dead tissue from the area and now it must heal (with a watchful eye, of course)!
I allowed Juni in with Miley for the day, since Miley no longer has "potential toys" hanging from her hind quarters, tempting Ms. Juni Rose to play, play, play!
Off to work!
LOL, glad those two like eachother so much. How bout some more pics of the two of them together? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by sasvermont
I allowed Juni in with Miley for the day, since Miley no longer has "potential toys" hanging from her hind quarters, tempting Ms. Juni Rose to play, play, play!
I am so very glad everything is working out with sweet Miley girl, and hopefully she will be all healed up soon. :)
I am so relieved to hear that everything went well with Miley. It sounds like things are starting to settle down some in your home and more so, once Ti is re-homed.
Won't be long before you can sweep all of this under the rug.
SAS, I have been busy with the BBQ and saved this thread until I could take the time to read all of the posts.
Your emotions just scream from the posts and my heart goes out to you.
Seeing Miley's tubes brought back immediate memories of Rascal and his last great adventure out of doors. He ended up with the same tubes and all of the medications that needed to be administered AND the vet bill to go with it. It just killed me to see him like that and he now is strictly an INDOOR cat.
It is now pointless to look backwards and think, could have, should have, might have, wish I did!
You are absolutely doing the right thing now and especially working with the good breeder. It sounds as though Ti should be in a one cat household, spoiled rotten.
In a short time all of this will be resolved and you can take Miley around the house and show her that Ti is truly gone.
I wish you great success and also give you a giant hug for your concern and love for Ti, Miley and little Juni Rose.
I'm so happy Miley is bouncing back so well. She sure has been through a lot, and it's good to hear she's starting to enjoy herself again. And it's good to hear she gets along so well with Juni. Kind of shows that she can get along with others - if they want to get along with her.
And SAS, you sound so much better too. More happiness in the tone of your posts. Good to hear. :)
It warms up my heart to hear Miley is eating and playing. What a tough little girl. I was somehow afraid she could have a serious depression and it's relieving to hear it was a physical wound. With the healing of that wound her little heart will heal too.
As to Ti -I am sure he lives well on the porch too. He is loved and cared for and can play -and I wish him all the best:)
It is great to hear that Miley is on the mend!! And that little Juni and her are getting along well. I am sure Miley is feeling happy to be home with her mom and sister again. I too agree, i am sure Ti is fine on the porch and probably enjoys it...i am sure most cats would love to have a screened in porch to live in...i know as soon as my two realize the screen door is open they come running to breath in that fresh air, and watch the birdies. No worries, Ti is fine and i am sure he has no idea that he is seperated for any particular reason. It is wonderful how far you go for your animals...
I am sure Ti will find a great home...i never thought Gabe would, (and that anyone would put up with his antics, for that matter...but i was wrong!!)
Let us know what you hear from the nice breeder.
Robyn
SAS, I have been following the Miley/Juni stories from the beginning and I think you have done every possible thing to make it work, but once the extent of Mileys injuries came to light it had to be the beginning of end of Ti`s time with you, no other option.
It has been so hard for you all. For you, trying every way you could think of to make it work. For poor sweet Miley being scared and hurt, and now for poor Ti too. I say poor Ti, for, because of the irresponsibility of that breeder, has to leave probably the only real care, love, and comfort he has known.
Brighter days are ahead though, in fact they look to have already begun. Miley is recovering well from her injuries and looks to be enjoying Juni`s company. Ti has all he needs and is happy out there on the porch and soon will have that new forever home to suit his special needs.
I think Gini hit the nail on the head when she wrote...
You have gone that extra mile, more than once!:) I admire you so much!Quote:
... It is now pointless to look backwards and think, could have, should have, might have, wish I did! You are absolutely doing the right thing now and especially working with the good breeder. It sounds as though Ti should be in a one cat household, spoiled rotten. ....
Hugs
Chris
Thank you for all of your kind words and suggestions to relax a bit about the why's and why not's. I will. Maybe a beer or a glass of wine tonight.
Miley has been so clingy these past couple of days. She is a survior, for sure!
I will call Tamara tonight, if she doesn't call me by 8PM. She has my number at work too! She sounded so sincere about getting back to me by no later than Tuesday. Since she is doing me (and Ti) a huge favor by getting involved, I surely hate to make her feel guilty about not getting back to me.
Vermontcat is making lots of efforts locally, to see if there are some folks currently owning Bengals, who might want Ti!
Thanks again. I hope to take some photos tonight and if I do, I will post them.
Love to all,
SAS
Sas, yes I have found that in Vermont, Bengal cats and Bengal owners are a rather rare breed!:)
I really hope that Tamara can help you and soon!
I would love to see some new happy cat photos especially of Juni to see how big she is getting.:)
I have just now taken an hour to eat my lunch and catch up on this thread. I've read it from start to finish including the one where Miley was injured.
Firstly, I just want to say I'm sorry for not replying sooner to offer words of encouragement. In a situation like this you need all the help you can get.
Secondly, I was a bit disappointed to see that there was a wee bit of conflict coming from NotSoFluffy. I know that he/she did not mean to cause any harm but I think the last thing you needed to hear at that time was "next time go to a shelter?" I really enjoy reading the views of others and I think it should be encouraged, but it just goes to show you that any thread in this forum can invite words that can be taken the wrong way. Anyway, that's done and it's water under the bridge. Time to move on.
Thirdly, I wish I possessed the art of comforting words like the others. It seems that anything I say now will have been said before. I pray that you find some peace at your house and that Ti baby will find the appropriate home.
You did all you could, in fact, I would have given up long ago. You are a truly amazing hoooman being and I know alot of us can take a few lessons from this "episode". Life is a learning experience and if we stop learning from each other, what's the point.
So with that being said, I look forward to reading further happy updates. Hugs from me to all of you.
SAS, in the beginning I was hoping that things would work out between Ti and Miley, especially since Ti and Juni got along so well.
For Miley's sake I'm so glad you decided to re-home Ti.
Poor baby deserves to live a stress free live. I was horrified reading about her injury.
A few mos. ago I went to a similar experience after adopting a Puppy who was terrorizing my cats.It was heartbreaking to see my cats so unhappy and stressed out. I felt so guilty about taking the dog back to the rescue organization, but relieved that she was adopted the very next day.
I wish you the best of luck finding a new home for Ti.
He is so very handsome and I'm sure he will find a good home.
Give Miley girl some hugs and kisses from me. I'm so glad she is feeling much better already.
Well, tonight when I arrived home from work there was a message on my answering machine from the nice breeder, Tamara. She said she had make two unsuccessful phone calls and didn't sound nearly as serious as she did the other night about taking on Ti and his responsibility.
Vermontcat was so very nice to spend hours looking for web sites and names etc. for me. I have filled out a form to begin to look for a home for him via the Bengal Rescue out of New Hampshire.
I sent in his photos and a brief description of Ti and his basic problem. My fingers are crossed. Having never done this before, it will be interesting to see how it works and works out!
Tamara begged me to keep Ti and give him another chance. I am going to re-home him for sure! I will keep my appointment with the behaviorist. Why? Well, I owe it to the next person to know more about his problem. That will be my last gift to him before he goes, I hope.
Well, I must go tend to Ms. Miley.
Thank you so much Zoe aka Vermontcat, for going that extra 10,000 miles for Ti and me.
L,
SAS
SAS this will have a happy ending, I am positive about that, just keep believing in that.
It is obviously not going to be as easy as all that to re-home Ti, but hey hang on in there, you have come this far, I know you will find the right home for him soon, have faith SAS.
Someone special is waiting for Ti to be their furever furbaby, I just feel it in my bones. Take care and wishing you all the best.
Sas, I really hope that this website can help you.
www.gsprr.netfirms.com/bengal.html
I actually just spent a couple of hours reading their Bengal message board and I have learned a lot about Bengals.
The people on the message board sound really nice and a lot of them think that Bengals do well with other Bengals
or sturdy cats like Maine Coons.(cats that can handle rough play)
I am sorry that Tamara could not help you more, there really don't seem to be many Bengal owners in Vermont.
You're very welcome Sallyanne.
Since it is summer and it has been rainy I have had more free time to find some help for you.
You can repay me by posting new photos of your cats.;)
Oh cool! I just saw Ti on the adoptees page! Good work Sas!
I am sure the Bengal owners will fall in love with him!:)
That is so kind of you!!! I'm sure Ti and his new people will benefit greatly. :)Quote:
Originally posted by sasvermont
Tamara begged me to keep Ti and give him another chance. I am going to re-home him for sure! I will keep my appointment with the behaviorist. Why? Well, I owe it to the next person to know more about his problem. That will be my last gift to him before he goes, I hope.
Please give kisses to them all for me. :D
We had to find a home for a six year old Blue Aby whose owner died. He is a really sweet guy with us and another playmate for Mango. The first good home we found he didn't like (hid in a kitchen cabinet for weeks), the second he outright hated (would not let her touch him during the five weekes he was there) then, after looking for three weeks, we found a perfect home for him. His original home had a dog that had died of old age six months before he became homeless. This new home had lost their Aby to old age and their Labrador was in mourning as he missed his friend. When the cat and dog met they became fast friends almost immediately and the cat loves his new owners too.
It may take time to find the right home for Ti - and he deserves a good home - but it can be done. Meanwhile Miley will get back to normal and I suspect she and Juni will be like family in short order.
Dear SAS,
I've always thought that a good book makes nice company to a glass of wine...and I've never known a mood that a good book couldn't cure at least a little bit.
I've loved to read "My angels wear fur" by Devon O'Day and it helped me a lot...you won't find any advice on your situation there, but you'll learn that letting go doesn't mean losing or stop loving...it just means learning...in this book you'll find wonderful short stories that soothe the heart...maybe you should give it a try...
You've been through such a lot of weird experiences and emotions lately and I'm glad that you all have found a way out of it now. We can learn quite a lot from our cats, hm?!;)
I wish you all the best on your further way...a quick recovery for sweet Miley girl and a wonderful kittenhood for her little sister Juni Rose...and a puuuurrrfect home for Ti...with all your efforts he'll make it to a new home soon...there's the right place for everyone, believe me...
Hugs to your weary heart
:)
bisi.cat your post was so sweet and reassuring and I know SAS will agree. The books sounds terrific and also the glass of wine is not a bad idea either. Though you have just found Pet Talk, I/we do hope you will stay. There are lots of really nice folks here and I know you will agree and also I have a feeling you will have much to contribute.
Sallyanne, once again you are going the extra mile with your intention to keep your appointment with the behaviorist for Ti. You are doing everything you can to assure that Ti will blend in perfectly in his new furever home and not find himself being re-homed yet again. You are truly a gem, but we already knew that really! ;) :cool:
My one concern here is that the behaviorist, in doing what she does, might want to put Ti and Miley in the same room to observe their interaction. Maybe you could print out some of the detailed notations you have made here about what has transpired on various occasions, so she doesn't have to see for herself . I just don't feel Miley needs to endure any more of Ti, for any reason.Quote:
Originally posted by sasvermont
Tamara begged me to keep Ti and give him another chance. I am going to re-home him for sure! I will keep my appointment with the behaviorist. Why? Well, I owe it to the next person to know more about his problem. That will be my last gift to him before he goes, I hope.
Forgive my two cents...I just worry about the little girl.
Excellent point Rachel!Quote:
Originally posted by Rachel
My one concern here is that the behaviorist, in doing what she does, might want to put Ti and Miley in the same room to observe their interaction.
Well, there is no way Miley will be put with Ti. The behaviorist can observe Ti with Juni. He plays oddly with her too, just not "for keeps"...... I would never subject poor Miley to Ti again. I think she would have a heart attack.
At night, if Miley sees Juni, she gets tense until she can see that she is not Ti...and just some little squirt of a kitten, who wants to play and be a pain in the neck!
The problem is with Ti, not Miley. I could care less if cats hiss and yowl and even tumble with each other, but what Ti did was totally unforgiveable. I can never trust him now. Sorry, but he is a cat, not a human, and let someone else deal with him.
I will put tons of effort into getting him into "kitty rehab" and into a new home. He cannot stay in my home, that is a given! He will never see Miley again!
Juni and Miley were playing in the famous red tent this AM. I didn't get any pictures. Sorry. They really are enjoying playing. I think they will become good friends once Ti leaves and they have full run of the house.
Thanks everyone! Thanks, thanks, thanks.
Such wonderful, big hearted people here!
Love to all,
SAS
Sallyanne,
I have had a busy week and missed all of the latest until now! I am so sorry that I haven't been here in support of you and your decision. But you have my 100% support, I promise! I love your attitude because even through all of this, you are still concerned about Ti's future, even if it isn't in your home. You are a true lover of animals and every action you have taken has proved that!!
Thank goodness (I think :o ) Butter doesn't have it "in" for Mimi. He would never have been allowed to stay if he did. In fact, the only puncture wound that ever occured due to a wrestling match with the two of them was given to Butter by Mimi, not the other way around! Why does that make me happy when he takes his aggression out on me instead? :eek: Hehehe!!! What a sucker I am for a needy soul. In fact, if there wasn't Mimi to consider, I'd tell you to send Ti on down here to fight it out with Butter. Probably they'd get along just fine. Cats are definitely an interesting species and no two are alike!
Please give gentle pets and hugs to all of them for me. I am keeping you and the kitties in my prayers. You deserve some peace and they all deserve some normalcy.
Logan
You really are going above and beyond for Ti, SAS. I know the right home will be out there for him and you will make sure you find it. I admire your commitment, and I wish more pet owners were half as concerned about the animals they plan on keeping.
I had an interesting conversation with a friend who got a young Bengal female five months ago. They live in a high-rise and the cat is strong enough to open the sliding door to the balcony. They found her walking on the railing 12 stories from the ground one evening upon coming home from work. She plays very rough with their older cat and bites so hard she's injured him several times (sound familiar?) and she's also played rough with them. They decided to rehome her and found a good home with a yard. She only gets to go out on a leash, though. In her new home she's an only cat and has calmed down a lot.
Randy, thank you for the input. It makes me feel a tad better about not wanting to have a cat around like my Ti Ti. I just got finished hugging the little devil and he resisted. Then he let me rub his tummy after I put him down. He is a tough cookie.
I haven't had a response from the Web site Bengal rescue folks other than their confirmation that they will run the ad for his rehoming.
All is quiet here right now. Miley is looking better and better and happier and happier. She was a sad looking girl for a few days.
I hope to take some photos tonight. I know, I know. I said that yesterday too!
We are getting such rain right now....wow....I think we have flood warnings. I live on a hill, so I am not worried, but some of the folks near the lake and run-off areas are in for a long night.
Thanks again Randy, you are a dear to chime in again! I really need lots of mental support on this one. I love big Ti Ti, but I love and cherish Miley more! And I like a nice, peaceful home as well.
L,
SAS
So glad to hear that Miley is doing better as each day goes by.
Keep your spirits up Sas and keep the Faith.
I am glad to read that Miley is happier. I hope Ti finds a new home soon.
Sas, I don't know if you checked out the link to the Bengal Breeder Directory so I will put it here.
There are three breeders listed in NH and several in the other New England states besides Vermont.
http://www.bengalcat.com/breederdir/...t.php?region=5
Maybe you want to contact some of these breeders too?
I also found a new website called
www.thecatsite.com/forums/index.php
one of the moderators who is named Anne is a cat behavior consultant, maybe you want to ask her some questions about Ti.
There is also a Breeders Notice Board on their forum that you might like to list Ti at too.
And if you want to laugh a lot check out this thread in their Forum
http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...threadid=20205
I just love the photos!:D
I hope to see some new photos of your cats soon.:)
I don't know if this would help or not, but there is a Bengal Rescue on yahoo groups, that has some animals listed on petfinder....maybe someone there is looking for a new boy?
Here's a link
More on the rehomed Bengal girl: The original owner was taking her to work with him to keep her out of trouble at home. A man there fell in love with her but "could never afford such a beautiful cat." The owner decided it was more important to see her in a good, loving home rather than recover his investment in her (wise man!). The new owner brings her into work one day a week so the old owner still gets to see her and his older cat at home is much happier. They are thinking about getting an Aby now after spending time with Mango and Peaches. They are exotic looking and energetic but well domesticated...