i feed my cats meat. I believe it is each persons choice to do that or not, and I don't think people should get mad at others just because they don't have the same opinion. same with the war or any other topic!
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i feed my cats meat. I believe it is each persons choice to do that or not, and I don't think people should get mad at others just because they don't have the same opinion. same with the war or any other topic!
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Originally posted by veegan
amen to that one sistah. haha Im so done with this thread. lol its exhausting.. :P
It's funny because I was going to cook steak tonight, in stir fry and now I feel guilty that I want to cook it lol. It's really weird when you can put a face to what you eat! :eek:
Perhaps I will make pasta tonight instead. I have some great zucchini and tomatoe basil pasta waiting to be cooked! :D
I actually have a lot of respect for hunters. At least they are concious of what they're doing. It's far easier to just pick up your meat nice and packaged in styrofoam than it is to have to go out, kill it, skin it, and freeze it. To me it's just a lot more honest.
But I am totally incapable of doing it myself. :rolleyes: ;)
WOW I totally agree with you there!Quote:
Originally posted by Soledad
I actually have a lot of respect for hunters. At least they are concious of what they're doing. It's far easier to just pick up your meat nice and packaged in styrofoam than it is to have to go out, kill it, skin it, and freeze it. To me it's just a lot more honest.
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WOW I totally agree with you there!
Don't sound so surprised! Lol... :) ;)
"It's funny because I was going to cook steak tonight, in stir fry and now I feel guilty that I want to cook it lol. It's really weird when you can put a face to what you eat!
Perhaps I will make pasta tonight instead. I have some great zucchini and tomatoe basil pasta waiting to be cooked!"
lol yeah it is. and that sounds dang good. i really ought to start cooking a lot more often! im so lazy :/
"I actually have a lot of respect for hunters. At least they are concious of what they're doing. It's far easier to just pick up your meat nice and packaged in styrofoam than it is to have to go out, kill it, skin it, and freeze it. To me it's just a lot more honest."
Yeah it is. That is, the hunters that do it that way. Even though I cant stand Ted Nuggent (haha Im sorry if I spelled his name wrong :O) at least he knows how crappy the quality of meat is in America, and uses all of the animals he hunts. (Hes a big hunter if any of you didnt know). There are some hunters who dont give a s*** about animals and think its fun to kill them, etc. And just like the spectacle of having brought down a huge elk or whatever. That kind of mentality aggravates me. As does the stupid like, farms that have animals there for people to hunt, canned hunts, etc. Its like okay what is the freakin point?? I mean the animal already has a pretty crappy disavantage seeing as you have a GUN, but I mean I know that doesnt exactly make it easy, but then putting an animal in a cage practically.. Its like what a joke! The animal has no chance. Am I right? Isnt that how those farms work? Lame.
Yes, I agree. I used to be very anti-hunters, but then I met my manager, who is an avid hunter, and he opened my eyes a little. It's much more than just a sport to him, he doesn't waste anything... He's also a member of Ducks Unlimited and has told me a lot about what they do. I, myself, could still never kill an animal, but I definitely am not so prejudged about hunters anymore.Quote:
Originally posted by Soledad
I actually have a lot of respect for hunters. At least they are concious of what they're doing. It's far easier to just pick up your meat nice and packaged in styrofoam than it is to have to go out, kill it, skin it, and freeze it. To me it's just a lot more honest.
But I am totally incapable of doing it myself. :rolleyes: ;)
My manager also has the most gorgeous German Shorthair Pointer named Bree that goes hunting with him. She is such a cutie! She comes in to work with him sometimes, I love her to death!!
Shorthair's are beautiful dogs!! My dad's friend has a female (name draws a blank) GSP, and the training it recieved is unbelievable ! My jaw dropped when I watched this dog perform...that's the best part about hunting...:)
i know I love GSPs. so beautiful. and I can imagine! I LOVE watching dogs work. so amazing
I've seen all types of hunters. My family hunts, they always have. Just deer and elk. Most of the time they don't even get an animal, but if we do, we eat ALL of it. I could never kill an animal myself of course.Quote:
Originally posted by veegan
Yeah it is. That is, the hunters that do it that way. Even though I cant stand Ted Nuggent (haha Im sorry if I spelled his name wrong :O) at least he knows how crappy the quality of meat is in America, and uses all of the animals he hunts. (Hes a big hunter if any of you didnt know). There are some hunters who dont give a s*** about animals and think its fun to kill them, etc. And just like the spectacle of having brought down a huge elk or whatever. That kind of mentality aggravates me. As does the stupid like, farms that have animals there for people to hunt, canned hunts, etc. Its like okay what is the freakin point?? I mean the animal already has a pretty crappy disavantage seeing as you have a GUN, but I mean I know that doesnt exactly make it easy, but then putting an animal in a cage practically.. Its like what a joke! The animal has no chance. Am I right? Isnt that how those farms work? Lame.
And then there's my friends family who hunts. Her 4 brothers and her dad are very avid hunters. Every year between all of them I bet they get at least 3 deer and elk...if not more. Not to mention the many trophy hunts they do (off the top of my head there's 2 bison, 2-5 moose, mountain goat, coyote, cougar, fox, raccoons, etc. etc. etc.) The also hunt birds like wild turkey and go fishing constantly...rabbit hunting "for fun" too I'm sure. They bring home the meat, but I have NEVER seen them eat ANY of it. Their house is plastered with taxidermy. It's awful. Oh, and then there's the 2 "hunting dogs," Bear and Trusty (RB) who lived their lives in a small pen treated like crap. Her dad does NOT respect the animals he kills...at all...it's just for show.
And I've seen one of those Trophy Elk farms....filled entirely with bull elk with huge antlers...it was so sad...we stopped to see them and they all came running...they were friendly and tame.
I guess my point is....I don't see why it's worse to eat a deer then a cow.....but it's the way you hunt. Quite frankly, I've met a lot of hunters, and the majority of them were idiots with a gun...scarey. YLL, I know you and your dad don't fit in that catagory. ;)
I should shut up now.....Veegan, I must commend you for having so much PATIENCE!! I still don't agree with a vegan diet for pets, but I have to commend you for being so conscience about your diet and the world around you.
Just one more question...isn't it pretty expensive to be on a vegan diet?
p.s. and GSPs *are* beautiful...I love Ladybird!! :D
"They bring home the meat, but I have NEVER seen them eat ANY of it. Their house is plastered with taxidermy. It's awful. Oh, and then there's the 2 "hunting dogs," Bear and Trusty (RB) who lived their lives in a small pen treated like crap. Her dad does NOT respect the animals he kills...at all...it's just for show.
And I've seen one of those Trophy Elk farms....filled entirely with bull elk with huge antlers...it was so sad...we stopped to see them and they all came running...they were friendly and tame."
gosh.. that really stinks. makes me sad and mad.
"Just one more question...isn't it pretty expensive to be on a vegan diet?"
Hmm.. no. Its pretty much the same I think, or less. Some of the products, like shampoo, lotion, soap, etc cost more, but I mean, I dont care. If I have to pay more so animals dont have to have shite needlessly poured in their eyes, its worth is. And as for the food, a lot of things like, grains, pasta, etc, you can buy in bulk and its a lot cheaper than meat and stuff.
Oh and heres a quote I just found on askcarla.com answering your very question lol:
"You’re right that vegan specialty foods, like prepared veggie burgers, etc., are sometimes more expensive than their nonvegan counterparts, but fortunately, they aren’t the only options. Prepared food will always be more expensive than food you make yourself, so buying the ingredients and making them at home will typically save you money. Veggie staples such as pasta, rice, tofu, and beans are much cheaper than meat. The money you save from not buying meat can go toward paying just a little extra for nondairy milk and other staples, like fruits and vegetables. Another suggestion is to buy food in bulk, either at the store, over the Internet, or through catalogs. You can find many vegan mail-order catalogs listed in the classified section in the back of Vegetarian Times magazine."
I dont pay for the groceries since Im living at home right now, so I dont know exactly, so Im glad I found that quote. lol
"Veegan, I must commend you for having so much PATIENCE!! I still don't agree with a vegan diet for pets, but I have to commend you for being so conscience about your diet and the world around you."
lol thanks :):)
Oh, nope. :( No one in my family is even vegetarian. It was pretty crappy at first cause my family was all against it and my dad was a MAJOR a-hole, and no one understood why I wanted to be vegan, and yeah. But now that I know my facts I can explain my reasons to them, plus they are used to my diet by now lol so its all well and good. I get the occasional crap, but that’s expected.. Im used to getting crap/made fun of by people about it. Im getting pretty good at comebacks. heh ;)
And yeah when we go to the grocery store I just get my food and they theirs. Its not a big deal cause they just buy less of what they’d normally get and then get my stuff instead for me, ya know? Only thing is, my mom doesnt cook separately for me, which I certainly dont expect her to, so I have to make my own stuff. So, since Im lazy, :( I mostly eat a lot of like, Boca burgers, fake meat sandwiches, PB&J, top ramen with vegetable bullion, soy dogs, etc. The most elaborate meal Ive ever made has been spaghetti. hahaha I eat lots of fruits and veggies though too. But yeah, it actually is getting boring lately and I dont feel healthy, so Im gonna start cooking. My mom keeps bugging me about how unhealthy it is to just eat packaged stuff too.. and she keeps offering to help me cook some real meals (which is nice/cool of her!) I just havent gotten around to doing it. I have hundreds of recipes though cause Im on a weekly vegetarian recipe email list haha. Anyhoo.. I should go print some recipes out right now! :D
Its not really that hard actually. I mean my family doesnt eat at the table together or anything and my mom doenst make meals everyday either. So I was used to making my own food. She cooks even less now cause she and my dad are on some diet and the food comes to the house on weekdays. lol
Id do the same if I were your mom too. hahaha If I slaved over a meal for my family no way would I let them get away with any whining! If they didnt like it they can make their own food! ;) lol
hehehe cuute!
That is one of the many many reasons I miss Eugene! I will be living there again within the next 1 to 1 1/2 years! I got all my meat from Lone Pine Farms too! Great place! Don't forget about the saturday market downtown!Quote:
I don't know if you have ever been to Eugene Oregon, but we are the land of the hippies. Even our main Supermarket here is all organic, Price Choppers Market of Choice. Most of our clothes are made out of hemp etc. Now I am not a hippy, but I do appreciate eating healthy food. I have lived this long on meat and I am sure I will live a lot longer unless I get ran over by a bus. I don't eat meat often but when I do I like to know where it comes from.
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That is one of the many many reasons I miss Eugene! I will be living there again within the next 1 to 1 1/2 years! I got all my meat from Lone Pine Farms too! Great place! Don't forget about the saturday market downtown!
LOL When you move back you should give me a holler. ;)
I LOVE Lone Pine Farms!!! Have you ever been to the corn maze? I love the Saturday Market as well. It just started up again two weekends ago. I can't wait for my family to come visit again so that I can take them. There is a man there who makes handmade cat and dog tags out of pressed copper and pounds in the letters himself. They are really neat. :)