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I don't know... but if tragedy strikes New Orleans again... there better be fingers pointed at those who are truly responsible. Those levees should have been built up LONG before even Katrina... but NOOOOOOOOOOOO buildling a new sports stadium was more important *tsk tsk*
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Wow.
So I guess this means you will only buy the magazines with a cover of Obama in a windbreaker/rolled up shirt sleeves? I'm sure you'll have many to choose.
Well, if you want to point fingers, you have to start with Mayor Ray Nagin and Governor Kathleen Blanco. They were onsite and dropped the ball.
There is plenty of blame to go around. I just don't like to see ANY politician making hay out of the situation.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
If they went ahead with the convention as planned, Sara, you'd be the first or second person on this board complaining that the republicans were insensitive to the needs of LA by holding the convention as planned.
Which would you prefer?
Of course, you haven't said a damned word about the stories about Sen. Obama mobilizing his campaign staff to collect donations for New Orleans. That's not making hay?
Oops, sorry, it's okay for Sen. Obama, it's just Sen. McCain you don't want making hay out of it.:rolleyes:
Methinks ain't anybody gonna be making hay - mud, yes, sandbags, maybe. Hay floats - and gets moldy when wet.
I think that at this point, whatever else is in the news, good, bad, or otherwise, both campaigns will be all over it. I only hope the people who are about to be slammed the Gustav in the gulf Coast, and then Hanna on the Southeast coast will get some kind of help and benefit from the fuss the election season will add.
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Originally Posted by Lady's Human
Do me a favor and do not be so presumptive as to tell me what I will or will not do. I realize you pretty much know everything, but you do NOT know me.
And you might practice your reading. I said ANY politician. And I do think they should hold the convention. I do not see where a bunch of politicians will do any good standing around watching a hurricane.
For starters, in the last couple threads we've had discussions in, you're the one who needs to practice reading comprehension.
You said ANY politician, but you only complain about McCain making hay.........and say they should hold the convention as planned.
Why? So you can then go on and bash the President, the Governor of LA and others in the administration who were scheduled speakers for playing party politics while LA suffered?
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Originally Posted by jazzcat
What about the screensavers, too?:confused:;)
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I loved the way Nagin spoke down to the citizen's, "get your butts out"????
LOL, Had that been any other hack the people would have risen up and claimed some kind of hurt for being disrespected.
I also enjoyed the way that he put it on the people, "We can't protect you!" So, now he can blame everyone who didn't listen.
And seriously, what about BO making this one state his cause? What about the other 56 states?
Hearts and minds-because the votes will follow.
Oh, I forgot, he is the president!:eek::rolleyes:
Agree totally with you LH. Also, like Karen, I believe that both sides are going to be "all over this" ..... and I hope for the right reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
Slinging Mud! Watch Out! I think they will need an equal amount of Republicans & Democrats to stick their fingers in the levees. Maybe this time the hurricane will wash New Orleans out to sea. Humans are so dumb! Lets rebuild so we can get swamped & lose everything so we can start all over again. Dah! Head for high ground & build there. I don't feel sorry for anyone that can't learn the first time around.
Apperently this woman thinks she is the moral police, she must have a private pipe line to God.
We might as well all move to Iraq if this is the way the US is turning. Teaching creationism in school:mad::mad::mad:
That's just insane. What about freedom of religon, which also means freedom from religon. Will we be burned at the stake if we don't agree.
I think she should tell Ellen that Porta can't have healthcare.
This woman is a danger to our freedom, and for all who are gay, for all who can't afford to raise a child or don't want to.
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Gov Palin on teaching Creationism in schools:
In an interview Thursday, Palin said she meant only to say that discussion of alternative views should be allowed to arise in Alaska classrooms:
"I don't think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."
She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state's required curriculum.
Members of the state school board, which sets minimum requirements, are appointed by the governor and confirmed by the Legislature.
"I won't have religion as a litmus test, or anybody's personal opinion on evolution or creationism," Palin said.
http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/ele...-8243554c.html
Polar Bears have been discussed in another thread, the Polar Bear population is at it's highest point since record keeping began, yet they are still listed as endangered?
Doesn't make sense, and she was right to do what she did, IMHO.
Constitutional ban on benefits to same sex partners?
Yes, but as Governor vetoed a bill which would have denied those benefits as unconstitutional. In other words, a constructionist view of the Constitution.
I love the way this guy talks.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
I'm changing my vote now to:
Camacho/Nagin
This was a rather flip comment to make. Would you think the same way if New Orleans had been your home for your entire life, and everything and everyone that meant anything to you was firmly rooted there???Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonny
And as far as not learning the first time around??? - how many wars have we been involved in?
But then - this being a Democracy - I suppose you're entitled to your opinion and your freedom to say what you think. Afterall - those wars helped you retain that freedom!
About the polar bears and related "protected species"-
Eviro-mentalists always want to protect a species by cordoning off the areas where those animals/plants/ecosystems exist.
At times closing off those places can hurt the things that people try to protect.
Take you neighborhood and put up a fence in a radius of one mile. Nothing comes in or out. When you start to get hungry make do with what is in the area. Soon you'll see that it cannot be done.
The largest animals will take over, for a while. Because they are top o' the food chain they will dominate until the smaller prey are eliminated. Birth rates go up -no one to keep their numbers in check- until the land cannot support them. Nature reverses course, birth rates go down as well as the size of the larger animals. They die off because of lack of food, then the smaller animals-who were not part of the happy meals, start to overpopulate-and what does that do?
IT tosses the whole ball of wax out of kilter and defeats the reasons we wanted those areas kept pristine.
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IT's the same arguement about what is taught in school.
We only teach what WE want to the kids. THe biggest farce are the hot heads who think that a 'little god' in the curriculum will ruin the planet.
So what? The kids that have a problem with it are the same ones that are brought up to be intolerant slugs by their parents.
The same unyielding AHs who will take the country to task about the words "In God We Trust" on our currency. Again, IF IT BOTHERS YOU DON'T USE IT, write checks or go find a country where the bills have 8 zeroes after the ones!
Parents try to protect their kids from god in the classroom and our bills and coins but have no problems with a cable box with porn channels in their bedrooms, never bother to find out that biatches hoes and G's live inside their iPods and mp3s and that kids are having more sex and less babies because we have to give them classes on birth control!
We all want freedom of mind and speech until we hear an opposing view, then we shout that person down, exercising our right-and stomping the living crap out of theirs - to have an opinion.
IT really is time to get over our bad selves.
There are times I do wish we lived in China, Venezuela or Cuba. That way we would only have a few opinions and we wouldn't waste our time on stupid arguements like Bears, pregnancy and god.
Oh about Ellen and PORTIA, They can afford the best healthcare possible-
It's the poor gay couple that can't hire nannies, fly first class or live in houses that are worth more than the GNP of some nations, that need help.
That's another fallacy we have.
The F.N. morons like Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, Neil Young and Michael Moore can bash the U.S. and it's policies, but when we take them to task for what they say WE CAN'T USE OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
IT's oh-so-easy to abhor another person's beliefs or a government's stand on things until we look a little farther into our own world. Then we start making excuses.;)
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RTCC,
I love that ticket. Can we keep the cabinet the same?;)
Are you talking about the wall McC wants to put up on the border again?:D:rolleyes::DQuote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
Ooooh, Palin. Maybe teaching sex-ed would have been a good idea :rolleyes:
I'm sure you all heard, but if not...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...nce-education/
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...aughters-baby/
I agree with you. That was an extremely insensitive thing to say. Should all of the people in California just relocate too due to the earthquake potential? Easier said than done. Until you have walked a mile in someone else's shoes.....Quote:
Originally Posted by pomtzu
These people deserve our prayers.
Does it make sense to spend Zillions of dollars of the tax payers money State & Federal to make the same mistakes over & over? That is what New Orleans is about zillions of dollars wasted! Lack of Common Sense!
Wars! They will never stop as long as there are humans.
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Originally Posted by Giselle
If I ever have a child I will have their genitals sewn up.
How many kids have their parents hammer the idea of waiting for their marriage to have sex? Is she the only woman who's daughter got knocked up when the parents were promoting abstinence?
I have to laugh at these stories-tell me a family who hasn't run into those problems? How many of my friends have kids who got knocked up before they were married, were underage?
I have a niece who got preggers while she wasn't married and in school.
Does that make my brother a bad parent?
MY mom has a saying that fit this scenario-
Who cares what anyone does, as long as they do not use my arse to do it!
When the next 'unplanned pregnancy' pops up in a household 'near' yours, remember the disdain you have for this woman.
One size fits all.
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Palin also smoked pot and was photographed in a t-shirt that said, "I may be broke, but I am not flat busted".
She partied and has breasts.
Again, she's probably more qualified that some women who are tee-totalers and flat chested?:rolleyes:
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Bonny,
Humans will never stop because there are wars.
Oh silly me!!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes: Of course not. :rolleyes::rolleyes: What a lack of understanding of common sense I must have!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: If the taxpayer's money is used for a project such as this, then how will the government ever be able to continue to pay $800 for a toilet seat, $500 for a coffee maker, $400 for a monkey wrench, $100 for a hammer, etc, etc etc. And don't forget all the money that is given for grants to study such important issues as the "love life of an East Siberian clam" for example. :mad::mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonny
Sorry folks, not much has impressed me about Palin. I still think she is a poor choice by McCain....and she is becoming less impressive as the days go on.....I wouldn't want her for my VP or Pres.
Doesn't make me right. Just my opinion. :eek:
Seafood porn isn't too bad. The last DVD I bought cost me 15 clams.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by pomtzu
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Here's the deal.
We have to pay attention to the hacks who govern at local levels first.
The moron who is the mayor in Lost Angeles has many stupid pet projects, he also let the last two school heads run the school district into the ground.
I don't have kids, so why should I care about the schools?
It ticks me off when I see AHs like Antonio Villaraigosa get into office by talking a good game and using the fact that he is a Mexican to persuade the idiots to put him into office. That SOB is out of office next and I'll make sure that I'll vote for anyone who runs against him. (taking notes Barack?)
Not my first choice for El Jefe de El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles de la Porciúncula (The Village of Our Lady, the Queen of the Angels of Porziuncola), but he's in charge, until the next bobo comes in.
Think globally, elect locally.:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Giselle
Well, it does happen. In the article I read Palin stressed that her daughter & boy friend were getting married & keeping the baby. I wonder if that's her
idea or the girl & her boyfriends? Oh well, I wish them the best.
I really admire and respect her, but I'm still scratching my head over this choice. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by sasvermont
Earlier in this thread, I said it could be a good choice because we're always saying that we want new blood or an outsider that will go and shake up Washington and the good 'ole boy club.
But, I'm reminded of Jimmy Carter. Now, I was too young to vote in those days, but I remember being so excited about this nice guy going to Washington. Well (in my opinion) it was a disaster. He couldn't get Congress to pass most of his proposals. None of them owed him any favors (I guess). They wouldn't work with him and he didn't have "clout" on his side to make it happen.
In my opinion, his political experience (as Govenor of Georgia) was no help whatsoever. Maybe it would be different if the "outsider" is the VP, I dunno.
It seems that the years after the Presidency, have been his most productive and successful.
Like I said, I'm still scratching my head over this choice.
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Originally Posted by RICHARD
Back to the original topic though. I just heard that he only ever spoke to her once before the announcement the other day. Talk about a snap decision. :confused: I would have rather seen him give her a cabinet position if he felt he had to put her somewhere. :confused:
Thank goodness! No more Brittany (or Brittany's sister) bashing then?:D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
It is so delicious when the hypocrisy begins to flow!
If Palen becomes too much of a liability to McCain I think it is possible that we could see her resign from the ticket. George McGovern in 1972 selected a running mate (Thomas Eagleton) whom it was later found out had undergone electroshock therapy for depression and he dismissed himself from the ticket. So you see strange things have happened and could still happen.
Thank you Pam! My mother and I were having the same conversation and could NOT remember the names. I knew it was a guy from Missouri and the shock treatments....
Is it too late to call her???:D
Hypocritical?
Hmmm,
I remember when the United States used napalm and killed thousands of people in Iraq.
If you think hypocrisy is delicious, have a serving of humility and a sip of owing up to dumb statements.
Bon apppetit.
You're right...it is a few hundred of thousand by now! Thanks for catching that!Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
Sara, the US hasn't used napalm since Vietnam.
Napalm has killed no one in Iraq.
The late Seduam (sp?) Insane used nerve gas to kill a bunch of innocent Kurdish people that live or did live in northern Iraq.
Sorry LH...I was being a smart aleck. I have no idea what R was talking about so I made a smart response.
I am sure I have been wrong about some things. I doubt...sorry I know...there is no one who gets into these passionate and political discussions who has not been wrong about some fact or other or maybe even a bunch of them. Again...including me. (and you:p)
But what I hope I have never been is a hypocrite. I hope I have not espoused one set of rules for one group of people and a different set of rules for another. Based on how I feel about those people.
I do not express my opinion on some rather personal things - even things about which I have very strong opinions. Those opinions are for my family. And my close friends.
But I cannot but help enjoy...when people who have been very vocal in judging all too human behavior find themselves on the other side now defending the same behavior.
I try very hard (and I am sure I do not always succeed!) not to get on a high horse about how others live their life. I do not care who someone sleeps with - if it is not me, my husband or a child - it is not my business to judge (okay...except for a little delicious gossip with my girlfriends!)
So when pontificators get tripped up...well sorry...it is a bit fun!
Yes, we'll definitely keep Ms. Fun Bags.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
And now to elect:
Dwayne Ellesando Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho/Clarence Ray Nagin, Jr.
Slogan: It's got electrolytes....
Go to: 4:07 in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NlbhcCJlRg
On a side note......
Would someone please explain to me how peace protests inevitably turn violent?
Hypocracy anyone?
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080901/D92U49RO0.html
I loved the peace protesters on Iceland.....
They came to our field site after breakfast, walked around with signs for about 2 hours, broke for a picnic lunch for 1 1/2-2 hours, then protested again for about 2 hours, and went home for dinner.
They even had pleasant chats with our gate guards.
How delightfully....peaceful!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
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Originally Posted by rosethecopycat
Oh, IT's even funnier in GERMAN! I am going to have to buy the DVD.
I think the slogan should be, "I like money!" LOLOLOLOL
Thanks!
LH,
I don't want to be a smartarse here but...
Peace protesters....
ANti -War protesters.....
The ANti-War protesters come out dressed as peace protesters then ruin it for everyone.:(
Another reason that I laugh when I see the cops club the crap outta them.
Act stupid? Get your rear kicked.
GO POLICE.
Well what about those who don't believe in Evolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marigold2
should THAT be taught?
Some people don't believe in it and there is no scientific PROOF that that's what happened. but THAT seems to be OK.
that seems to be OK with those who don't believe in any faith or religion yet it doesn't matter how it affects those who DP believe in faith or religion. there is no PROOF... DON'T teach it... PERIOD. Any mention of evolution could be JUST as offensive to the faint of heart as creationism.
I'm sick of the God hating just becasue some don't believe in it... but if families don't want evolution taught they are to go ELSEWHERE to learn.