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Originally Posted by Daisy and Delilah
Remember when you had to go the whole way to the school library to do research for a paper? And look in those things called 'books' for the information? :p ;)
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Originally Posted by Daisy and Delilah
Remember when you had to go the whole way to the school library to do research for a paper? And look in those things called 'books' for the information? :p ;)
You probably will have a worse reputation for letting your dog suffer.
And you better be pretty damn lucky that you even have that 500 dollars to spend.
There are a lot of kids that cant't even buy anything to eat because they don't have money!
Those kids also save their money and don't blow it on things like that! They save up for college, bills for helping their parent, etc etc.
You need to think more.
I wonder to what extent computers are used in schools THESE days? And whether students are expected to have access to one in order to do their homework? Heck, just because computers weren't in school when I was there doesn't mean they aren't more widely used now. (walked to school uphill both ways, in knee-deep snow...and I did just fine... :p )
That said, I wouldn't go near Vista if my life depended on it. It is a REAL classic example of Microsoft finishing its testing by unleashing it on the public, marketing it really well so that folks think they HAVE to have it.
Then the users find out all kinds of bugs, and Microsoft keeps sending out security patches and all that ****. It is just a stupid game, and I am not supporting Microsoft in this. Matter of fact, I find that no-name brands are often just as good as the 'brand' names - cleaning products, food, etc.
Collin - That box that Lady's Human was talking about...have a look at things like that. They should have a warranty - and you can fix things anyway.
Paying for a "name" brand is not always the way to go. My system has one thing for the computer, a Samsung monitor, and a DVD writer/player that is some other brand, but one recommended by a trustworthy computer tech I know. (He's the president of the Linux club in Calgary).
You should be able to get a good system for WAY under $500. If you have a little extra, put it away for a treat someday, or a toy for you and Reggie to play with.
There are a number of consumer review forums around - try Googling "Vista Reviews"; also, in that same forum, you might ask about name brands on computers and what system everyone has.
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Yes, we need good computers for school. Reasons:Quote:
Originally Posted by Catty1
But i like Windows because of compatibility issues with other os's. Otherwise i would be using an Mac because its smaller and looks better.
- There is an online math book at go.hrw.com so fi we leave out math book at school...
- In my case with the news crew i have to have an very powerful computer for daily video editing
- and we can do our homework and save it so if we lose the original copy just print another.
Just don't go for Vista or HP just because of the name.
A really good person to contact - if you can track one down - is a place that repairs ALL kinds of computers, and isn't owned by one of the big manufacturers.
That person could give you really good feedback on what companies have certain problems in their machines.
Sometimes paying for a name-brand is good; sometimes you are paying for the name only and could get a much better machine for less $$.
If you buy an HP, (especially a low end HP) you are getting:
A proprietary motherboard which may or may not be compatible with future upgrades.
Integrated video memory (which isn't going to help with speed)
On-board graphics, as opposed to a separate graphics card
limited (or non-existent) expansion slots
and a "free" 17" monitor........which really means you're buying a $200 computer, a $150 monitor, and they're only charging you $500 for it.
You're really bad at BSing, Collin.
Schools CANNOT assume ALL students have access to computers. That is why teachers MUST stay after school with students if need be, and that is also why library's offer free (or cheap) computer use.
YES, I know you "need" it for certain things like video editing.
But I think your school would understand if you spent money on a sick dog rather than a new computer. If they didn't, they just aren't worth it anyway.
But..... this is starting to get redundant. This kid is HOPELESS. Maybe if we stop responding to his threads he'll go away! :D
Collin - it's your money. Don't get ripped off by a so-called 'deal'. What Lady's Human said above is, often, sadly the case.
And because the store staff see a young person like you come in, they are not likely to be honest with you.
Do you know the model of the HP and the monitor? Check for prices online. Compare.
Also, learning to save some of your money is part of growing up. Don't get ripped off by spending $500 for a computer just because you have $500.
Research and compare the prices.
Ok you can get a working computer at a thrift store for under $30 Ok the moniter might not be a FLAT SCREEN and there won't be VISTA but whatever your dog is your priorty. OK!
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Originally Posted by Lady's Human
Actually, the monitor is not included. But i think this is an pretty high powered computer that im getting for $500. Amd im going to buy it online using one of those $8 visa debit cards found at Wal Mart. My computer is comfigured witn an intel Pentium Dual Core processor, Deticated 64MB NVIDIA GeForce 7500LE, DVI-I, TV-out, VGA adapter graphics card, 2 Gigs of memory, an 160 GB 7200 rpm hd, Microsoft(R) Works 8.0, Windows Vista home Premium, Integrated 5.1 Capable Sound w/ front audio ports, LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive, and an 15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB, audio ports on the front. This is an customised a6200T desktop by HP. All of that plus an HP Pocket Media Drive bay for $503 plus shipping which my mom will pay. Does anyone agree with me about this being an good computer? I believe in HP because my dad had an HP desktop that lasted him 13 years. And, as i have said, my mom is going to take care of reggie.**** No need to worry or argue that reggie is not getting the proper care because if i spent my money on Reggie my mom would just give me back the same amount.****
Also I would not recommend getting Windows Vista, because since it's new it have a bunch of bugs/gliches/etc etc.
I would wait.
Yes but by the time i get this computer ordered Microsoft will have released an Service Pack to fix all of the currently known glitches and bugs and security holes. And i also like the fact that DL.TV uses Vista in their show. And an Wii lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovemypup
Microsquash has been issuing SP's for Vista well prior to it being on the market. It hasn't fixed a damned thing, which is why most comp manufacturers are still offering windows XP as an option.
Frankly, Vista is in the ranks of MS DOS v 4.0 and Windows Me. Operating systems which should have never been released.
As to PC World reviews, they gave Me a good review, and I know many, many people who could never get it to install on their systems, never mind get it working.
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Originally Posted by Lady's Human
For what it's worth, I agree with you here. Vista was rushed to market
well before the glitchs were worked out. I wouldn't touch it. It's not
worth all the trouble.
Yes but it is illogical to buy an Widows XP machine because it wont be supported by Microsoft at all by 2010. No support = No bug-fixes, security patches, service packs, no technical support, etc. And that compunded onto the fact that my current computer is about to blow up literally seems to tell me that i need an new computer.
So i guess the question would be, If you already know so much, why even ask for help in the first place??:confused:
And Windows NT and Win 2000 Pro are no longer supported by Microsquash, but they are both still in heavy use.
For hands on reviews.Quote:
Originally Posted by critter crazy
PC: In a nutshell, no. Don't bother going with a brand name - you are paying for the name, and likely support that you won't ever use. If you do as much technical support as you say, then that would not be a problem for you. I build computers, and I would not recommend getting a pre-made PC if you have the knowledge that you say, to build your own.
I do recommend that you look into individual components -- the money isn't going to go bad, or burn a hole in your pocket -- do your research first. Look at the individual components (motherboard, memory, processor, etc.). Browse computer forums for both positive and negative experiences with the hardware you are looking for. Take your time and do it right, and you will have a better item for your money. Here are some examples of pre-mades at Tiger Direct - also cheaper, and does ship if you are going that route. They also sell individual parts, or will build you a custom for those parts.
Vista: In a second and larger nutshell, no. NO NO NO. I've used vista, i've tested software and hardware against vista, and my personal recommendation is that it sucks. hard. But thats just me. Do your own research first - a GIS for Vista Problems, Vista Issues (hey look, an entire forum just named that --- http://www.vistaissues.org/ ) and, just for fun, Vista Sucks. Don't get it in hopes that MS will fix it by the time you get it, thats just shooting yourself in the foot.
In regards to budgeting and your pet: Think VERY strongly before pouring out every last dollar into this. Christmas is coming up, will you have money for something under the tree for your parents and pets (if you do that kind of thing that is)? Even if you set aside $100 for a rainy day, thats better than nothing. From what i've seen in your posts, your family comes and goes with money -- it happens. But, its naive to believe that everything in the future will work out roses after you've spent all your money. What happens, when theres no money, and something bad happens with your dog again, and your parents don't have the money either because its all been spent? Then, having spent the full $500 on a new computer will leave you looking back and feeling like an a##hat. Trust me, i've seen my sister go through that.
I think that all people want you to do is seriously and objectively THINK it through, before jumping into it. /soapbox
Actually, i would build an PC if i had the time. But i have virtually built my own PC on HP's customization page. And i like it. Its everything i need and leaves room for upgrades. The one reason why i keep buying premade PCs is that you pretty much know that it'll work. When you build your own you just don't know. And since DIY PCs have parts from different manufactures such an Segate for Hard Drives but Samsung for Optical drives, you don't know what has gone wrong if your PC suddenly stops working. But with an premade you know what to fix or just call Technical Support and they will know for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Frog
I hate to tell you this, but EVERY computer manufacturer outsources parts, and they don't always know what fails. If it falls outside the tech support flowchart, they may or may not be able to help you.
If you DIY and you properly assemble the machine, you will know precisely what fails when. (and if you build it properly it probably won't fail)
You'll also learn more about how the system works.
Yes, i know. But HP's machienes are manufactured well because mine has survived through 7 years of abuse and moving. And my dads has lasted for 13 years and still runs.I trust most of my digital life to HP and it normally lives up to what i say. And i have personally designed this system so it should meet or exceed my needs. and its still under $500. The rest i will buy toys for Reggie with lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
So they were well made 7 years ago and 13 years ago.
What about now?
Where do the parts come from?
Here's a couple of consumer review pages that look pretty good:
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/computers/index.html
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/e...ters/index.htm
I might have supported you in the other thread, but seriously these excuses have me shocked. There is a big difference between NEED and WANT. YOU don't need a computer, you want one. You said yourself, it was voluntary. You didn't need to volunteer to do it. 899 students wouldn't be mad at you for not getting news in, that is complete BS. In my school, no one even cared. I find it VERY hard to believe your school doesn't have the technology to allow you to do it there. What about your local library? I also doubt the teachers leave as soon as the students do. What if you need extra help with something in hard subjects such as math or language arts, or anything for that matter? People have to stay after school because during the school day there is not time for that stuff.
I'm sorry but I have to agree, you are being rather selfish. I really disliked the statement "BLOW money on reggie". That means you are wasting money on something, and if you really cared about your dog then a $300 or so wouldn't be a waste. You just care so much about reputation in school, because that is more important then your pets lives I guess. Whatever, I wish you would see where we are coming from but you obviously don't seem to care.
As for deleting this thread and starting it over, this will all happen again.
I have one question, HOW DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH REGGIE?!?!?! MY MOM AND DAD ARE TAKING HER TO THE VET!!! IM NOT! THEY SAID THEY WOULD! I am buying this desktop! i will buy Reggie some toys with the leftover money if there is any. I have the desktop placed on order for when i pay they will ship it. And there is no way to cancel that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maltese_Love
You just said this Reggie,
]If there is any? Come freaking on! You are going to BLOW all of your money on a COMPUTER! You are going to be in the same boat.. saying how you don't have any money for anything..Quote:
i will buy Reggie some toys with the leftover money if there is any
Don't say we didn't tell you!
Your dog was sick and probably still IS, you made a thread complaining you and your parents had no money, and then you start this thread saying you are getting $500 to spend and you waste it on something you DON'T need! You can claim all you want that you need a computer but in reality, you are just making excuses. NO one needs a computer. I didn't get one until I was 8 and even then I was allowed on 30 minutes a day. The point is, you finally get money and you refuse to spend it on your dog because your "parents" will spend it. We don't care if you get her toys, SHE NEEDS to see a vet!! You claim she has stopped peeing blood but maybe a new problem has arisen to cause it to stop. You are not a vet, you don't know that she isn't sick anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie
The thing that annoyed me is that you're not "going to blow money on reggie". I guess a computer is worth more then your dog.
Hello? Anyone there? Did you read the part in large text? It clearly says my parents are going to pay for reggie to go to the vet. Repeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maltese_Love
*clap clap* Maltese_Love that was great..*clap clap *
:rolleyes: I did read it, if you even read my post you'll see I said something about that. That still doesn't explain all these stupid excuses and the fact "I'm not going to BLOW money on reggie". That to me is a nicer way of saying "My dog isn't worth it, I'm not going to waste $500 on her when I can get a new computer!".Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie
You acting like this isn't helping anyone. Little attitude maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie
You don't understand that your dog is STILL SICK do you? Money or not..she is ILL!
Don't be getting rude and acting like a smart ass. It's not going to get you anywhere. Noone here has been rude to you, they are just telling you what you don't want to hear. Even I havn't been rude to you where as I usually am. I'm trying to think of your dog what you should be doing to be responsible and so is everyone else.Quote:
Hello? Anyone there? Did you read the part in large text? It clearly says my parents are going to pay for reggie to go to the vet. Repeat
Why won't you put the money away for another emergecy? I'm sure you won't have the money then either, that way at least you can show your parents your responsible and help.
Well, my hobby is computers. The computer i am going to buy costs $498.99 exactly. Thats pretty low-end. And my parents are going to buy reggie some toys and are going to take her to the vet. Im responsible for my own money and this is what i chose to spend it on. Love does not mean spending your one chance to get somthing you really want (ex. the computer) on your dog when your parents are going to take care of that. Thats stupid. When your parents are going to buy reggie toys and vet care why use your own money when you can buy the one thing you have been needing and wanting to get for 5 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovemypup
I don't know your Love.. but to me, love for my dogs means taking care of her, helping her out, training her, and getting off the computer and spending more time with her!
And for that last time.. you don't need a high end computer.
Love is taking proper care of an animal. FEEDING IT, GIVING IT SHELTER, and PROPER MEDICAL CARE till the last beat of its heart. Love is taking the time to care for it properly, play, spend time with it till the last beat of its heart. She is suffering if there is a long-term problem, I don't get why that's so hard for you to understand. The fact that you just said "that's stupid" says it all to me.
Ok, reggies sick thread. First post = 9-29-07. Post saying she was fine = 10-03-2007. All of this ended 3 days before the 10-03-2007 post i just didnt want to say she was ok until i was sure. This was almost 1 1/2 weeks ago! She is well, happy and as active as ever. Shes not grunting in pain nor peeing blood nor having to pe every 20 min! There is NOTHING wrong with her. Its over, you've just got proven wrong and lost the argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovemypup
For my hobby and for my job at school i do. And did you read the sentence right before that?Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovemypup
Oh my gosh people!! Stop picking on Collin! He is getting Reggie checked out by the vet! His mom is taking her and Collin wants to buy a computer!
Don't you all understand!!! Reggie is going to the vet: SO JUST DROP IT AND STOP PICKING ON COLLIN!!!!!
DOGS hide pain. First of all, no one here lost the argument. YOU ARE NOT A VET! You didn't go to school for 8 years, YOU didn't do the proper tests to see if there is anything wrong with her, you can't see inside her organs or her bladder. YOU don't know! So stop acting like a vet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie
Ok well i have not read all the replies as there are too many, so not sure what has been said, but i just wanted to say a few things here if that is ok.
Firstly it is your decision what to spend your money on, as long as you can live with that decision.
You say your mother will take care of Reggie, well i certainly hope so.
I think you have been given some sound advice here, and it is entirely up to you whether you listen or not.
Secondly you cannot post threads saying your pup is sick and you don't have any money, and then announce you have 500 to spend on a computer and not expect some backlash, and even though you start a thread, you really have no control over where it goes from there, so saying i want this stuff about reggie to end now and only talk about computers, does not work on PT.
It is not about winning an argument here, it is about the concern and welfare of an animal, that is what PT is all about you know, and believe me if you have ever suffered from a UTI, urinary infection , they are extremely painful, just as much for an animal, and it is infact cruel to let any animal suffer with these knowingly,the pain is unbearable, just a few facts for you to consider here.,If the dog had been peeing blood i would imagine it is quite a serious situation and needs addressing smartly,usually it is just microscopic blood, so if you can see it, that dog needs urgent vet care in my opinion.
i think you need to stop being so defensive here and just realise that people are only thinking about your pet and offering you sound advice and because they genuinely care about the welfare of your pet as you should do., OK.
All I can say is i hope you enjoy your new toy, and i sincerely hope that your pup is taken care of and in the future too.