Any news, Jenn?
Kirsten
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Any news, Jenn?
Kirsten
Ohhh... good point!Quote:
Originally Posted by Catty1
It could be partly funded by Ally's friends at Pet Talk!! A long shot sure... yet well worth a try. Materials could be donated. (wood... nails... etc)
Like that idea! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pitc9
Kirsten
Haven't heard anything yet....
Not sure how much an "Ally" room would cost, or if that's is something they'd go for. Would be nice, but sounds costly.
Will let you guys know when I hear anything.
Jenn, I sent you a PM :)
Heaven's Gift has turned Ally down. They said she doesn't meet their qualifications for abuse or neglect.
Edit to explain that they do take in some serious abuse cases.... so it's not like they don't consider her neglected or whatever, but they provide hospice care. I just wanted to clarify that.
I'm sorry, Jenn, that's very disappointing though I can see why they would feel they had to turn her down.
As for a special suite for Ally at B.F., I think the main problem would be how they would add it on to one of their buildings. From what I've seen online, all their cat housing units are circular with outside runs almost all around the unit, so each room is like an orange segment, fitting into the whole. With a rectangular building, adding on is feasible, but not with a round one. They have quite a bit of temporary housing and perhaps they could be persuaded to use part of that, especially since they are trying to close out Pahrump and will be bringing those units back. A cat in isolation takes up more staff time so she would certainly need to be sponsored.
I'm sorry to learn this, Jenn. I was so hoping it would be a good new home for Ally.
Pat
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Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
Jenn - I emailed BF - and used all upper case ATTN: TAMARA
I gave her some more details and backup information, and the possibility of some funding for Ally, maybe even her own room
Hope that helps!
While having her own room sounds like a nice plan, I don't see it as a realistic endeavor at this point. I mean, it takes a lot of money, a lot of manpower, architects, permits and all the other things involved with adding an addition on to any building. I'd just be happy if they could take her in.
I agree Jenn, just happy if they take her.Quote:
Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
PT donations arent going to be able to add up to what a building addition would cost. I'm guessing, minimum $20,000 that probably gets you a floor and no roof LOL
I wasn't implying that PT would pay for the whole thing. Lizzie said they are trying to close up Pahrump and bring some units back - maybe just a reno would be needed for the short term.
I think just being willing to sponsor would be an incentive...and Ally would make for a great story...
PT Prayers for Ally!
Jenn got an email from the lady at BF (I had emailed her too). I hope Jenn doesn't mind me mentioning something about this...but the BF said they had no room (understandable), but gave Jenn a list of links and suggestions and stuff to try.
HECK, she has done EVERYTHING.
I logged into BF PA, and couldn't find a place to post an URGENT notice. So I finally just messaged the moderator. :mad:
This cat needs a SPACE!
I've tried to Google places for Special Needs cats in PA, and can't find any.
HELP!
And Julie isn't answering her emails....who knows, Ally might be fine if she was with her again and the only cat (no, no more flights. Just a thought.)
Does anyone have a spare room? Just give her a fairly wide berth and you'll be ok.
:(
Jenn might have to do the unthinkable, and that is the last thing she wants to do.... :( :(
Ok, my resources are tapped. The shelter that I volunteer for wants nothing to do with Ally. My only promised backup cannot take her (although she still can take other fosters... ). If this comes out sounding bitter, it is. I'm just so upset that Julie has not been in contact, she has just vanished and is gone. Even her Live Journal on GMail is deleted.
What I am going to do is go to my mom and dad and go through their friends who have large, enclosed barns and see who would be able to take her. I can't guarantee she would flourish in that environment, but she'd have a chance. My parents live in the Poconos, and while we don't have an active farm any longer, many of their friends do.
So, this will be my quest. To get her a safe, warm, and hopefully a semi-happy and more at peace than she is now. Right now, I would not want to be her. I would not be a happy camper.
Will let you know what will happen. I'll make sure that any funds go with her to the farmer for her food and vet care. I have some large bags of Nutro that was just given to me, so they can go with her as well.
I look at that little face, and she breaks my heart. I know she doesn't want to be mean. I just can't think that she wants to be unloved. I'm sitting here in tears because she makes me so sad for her. I want to cuddle her and love her and make her feel safe and better, and she won't let me. :(
So, that will be my birthday present to Ally... I don't want to just desert her the way her owners have. She's just an innocent creature. She doesn't deserve that.
Gonna go get ready for work. Have been up cleaning since 3:30am since I couldn't sleep.
You have made a good decision and I hope your parents' friends can come through. Ally has reached a point in a her life where she can only feel aggression towards other living beings so this may be the beginning of a better life for her - we will all hope so. I know you will feel guilty because we all do, no matter what extreme measures we have taken to care for our pets/fosters, but no-one here will believe you should feel any guilt at all. You have always gone way beyond what anyone else would do to care for Ally.
My rescue group who places in barn homes that are unheated use lots of straw bales and blankets to create snuggle places within the barn. Of course, if there are other animals in the barn (large ones that she won't want to bite) their body heat will help.
I am sorry :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
I will relocate all of my fosters so Ally can come here. Nova and Lizzie and Carolyn and my beloved DaVinci will have to go live out their lives in our shelter. Cameo and Marilyn might find place in an adoption cage at Petsmart, but Cameo tends to hurt herself when left overnight in a cage. Hopefully she won't, this time. And Frazzle will just have to STAY at Petsmart whether she gets adopted or not. I'll pray that a foster home has room for the babies because they are sick and can't go to the shelter. :(
Then Ally can have my 3rd floor with no chance of hurting another cat.
You'll just have to give me time. And then I can be the one who is bitter. :mad:
Look at what this has come too..... :(
People open their hearts, homes and checkbooks to help someone that ACTED like they gave a damm and as soon as it was off their conscious dropped off the face of the earth and left all kinds of havoc behind. :mad:
This is horrible..... 100% horrible for everyone involved, people and animals.
No one would want Ally to go to the farm, but EVERY opion has been looked into. It is terribly sad that her only option and hope for a normal life is to be in a barn, but it's better than the only other option. (being PTS)
I think the best thing for everyone involved would be for her to go to the barn. Who knows, maybe she'll love it and flurish there!!
You have given her everything and you've tried everything.
{{{{HUGS}}}} all around.
So sad of a situtation. Jenn, you are doing beyond and above for Alley.
You have every right to feel bitter towards the whole situation with her owner.
I'm a firm believer that good things can come out of bad situations. Will keep good thoughts and prayers for you and Alley.
I would never ask you, or want you to do that. And I know you are sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by jenluckenbach
I'm just frustrated and sick and tired, and I had hoped I could count on your for backup like you said I could.
I'm sorry for making you feel like that. It's been a crummy week.
I have emailed Cats in Crisis and BF in PA for suggestions - they just have email forms! Darn!
But I gave them Jenn's email address - I HOPE they can help her.
PT PRAYERS, everyone, please!
FWIW, Julie was also hurt because she LOVED Ally, and Ally would not let herself be loved....she would bite. "Why is she doing this?" Julie cried.
If there are family troubles - with all the family has been through, that would not surprise me - maybe Julie CAN'T respond...
Prayers to all involved.
I think sending Ally to a farm sounds like a really good idea. My guys would hate it as they are so spoiled and can't stand not having a lap to sit on, but for Ally it sounds like a really good solution. Wasn't she feral to begin with? I bet she'd enjoy having a farm to run around plus she'd still get to see people so she wouldn't feel so alone. My grandparents live on a farm and their farm cats always seems happy.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this will all work out for Ally!
I have to say I agree with this from what I have read so farQuote:
People open their hearts, homes and checkbooks to help someone that ACTED like they gave a damm and as soon as it was off their conscious dropped off the face of the earth and left all kinds of havoc behind
you are far more charitable than I amQuote:
I also believe that Julie loves these cats very much
However, as neither of my comments are constructive I will just shut up now but wish you and Ally all the best for the future
Taking yourself out of the fostering loop for at least the next ten years would be an appalling waste of resources. Although I believe in looking at each cat as an individual, at some point you have to look at how much money, space, time, and individual effort you are expending on one cat to the detriment of many, many others. Ally will live in a barn and cope. I have a gut feeling that she will actually thrive in such an environment, as long as she is offered good protection from the elements.Quote:
Originally Posted by jenluckenbach
Didn't you make this offer before anyone knew just how very aggressive Ally had become?
I will not go back on what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
When can I come get her? Then she will no longer be your responsibility.
Yes, but that doesn't make it an invalid offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzie
I agree with Lizzie and Laura - I think Aly will THRIVE in this environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by jenluckenbach
Jenn Luckenbach I really don't think that Jenn is going to hand Ally over to and make her YOUR problem.
I thought you 2 were friends? I wasn't even entirely sure she was talking about YOU until you made a point to show everyone it was you.
Jen - No, you are not going to do this. Don't even think it. Seriously. I will find a barn home for her, and you will keep doing the wonderful things that you do with your fosters. They will not suffer because of one cat. I won't allow that either.
I 100% agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzie
I 100% agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzie
I agree with Angie x 2. There is no reason for Jenn Luckenbach to take herself out of the fostering loop.
And I agree that it is so sad that this situation as come to this. People opened their hearts temporarily for these cats and I don't think Julie had any intention of it being temporary.
And now people are bickering at each other.
Such a sad story
ITA with these thoughts. To sacrifice literally dozens of cats, for one, is total nonsense. Give Ally a chance at the barns. As others say, she may thrive there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzie
I'm not trying to bicker.... I'm just in a foul mood. :(
Jen L. does wonders with her fosters, I'd never want her to give up the ones she has to take in the demon cat from hell, errr... I mean, Ally.
Jen - I think we all agree that you sending back all your fosters and turning down all those future fosters the next several years just to accommodate Ally is not the answer and no one could possibly be angry at you for not doing that. It's obvious Jenn sees that too but being the one left holding the bag is hard to deal with. In her spot I would have probably made the same comment and then regretted it immediately because hurting you would not have been my intention, it's just the way I vent frustration. I think venting her frustration was all Jenn was doing and we can all understand why, this is a horrible situation.
Jenn, I still say I support your decision 100% whatever it may be because you are the only one here who has had to deal with this aggressive cat for all these months and apparently Julie doesn't want to have a say in this any longer. Very sad.
Bears are cuddly too -Quote:
Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
DON"T DO IT! ;)
I know you know better anyway!
I am not trying to bicker. And I am not angry with my FRIEND Jennie..... I was just trying to fullfill my end of the bargain. I know that throwing away a foster home (when there are so few) would be simple stupidity, but more importantly I never want it said that my word can't be trusted.
I am angry at Julie for not keeping in proper communication with Jennie. We all knew that the time frame was uncertain, but frequent status updates are the least Julie could have done.
agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jenluckenbach
She seems to have let herself fall off the face of the earth where these cats are concerned and that is not fair.
That's why I think you should FLY down to get WOODY. YOU NEED A VACATION! even if it a super short one!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
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Originally Posted by jenluckenbach
Ok, so next time I'm in a foul mood, I vent to myself, and not while writing.
I think this has become more than we both could bite off and chew (Ally, that is). Let's leave it at that, ok? I didn't want to make you upset, I'm so sorry I have. (((((((HUGS))))))) of forgiveness?? :(
Could this include some brownies??? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
{{{{{HUGS}}}}} back atcha!
Veering nicely off the main topic, who is Woody? I know I don't read all the threads, no time with all my special needs fosters, so I deserve not to know - but still want to know. Is this a special back scratcher to relieve Jenn's tensions? Or a special pillow with aromatic wood shavings to cure her insomnia? Or, good grief, is it a cat?