Printable View
I disagree lizbud. My kids homework and schoolwork is leaps and bounds more than I ever had, and we both attended/attend public schools.
My daughter is a freshman taking algebra 2, I never got that far, not even close. Believe me they have to do a lot more in school than I ever did to get by.
The kid needs to shut up and deal with the consequences. He did wrong, plain and simple. They didn't press charges. He missing walking with his class...he will live.
As far as school work goes...while they are moving faster for sure, but, it's very watered down...the bar is far lower. When I graduated in 1980, I graduated with a 93% average and it was a middle of the road "B+", now it's a solid "A". 75% was the lowest passing grade and for some teachers now, it's 60%...and still almost 1/2 the kids flunk because they are flat out too lazy to do the work...and they will tell you that proudly. I'm just sick to death of the disrespect and the "I am all important" attitudes that prevail in today's schools. Almost to the point of throwing in the towel and telling someone else to deal with them. Don't get me wrong, I love what I do and most of the kids I see everyday, but, the others make me wonder...
The work my daughter does doesn't seem watered down to me, in fact it makes me feel plain stupid :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
But to assume that she just wants him out of any punishment at all just because she is trying to get him back into graduation and pay his price in other ways is just... well... silly to me.
Tell me that as a mother you would just pass up the opportunity to see your son walk in graduation without at least TRYING to get him a different punishment like paying the cost and volunteering in the cafeteria cleaning all the trays etc etc. I do NOT in any way, shape or form think that makes her a bad mother at all nor do I think that is allowing her child to get away with his crime without punishment. Trying to get her son back into graduation does not mean she doesn't want him to pay the consequences.... nor does it mean that she will run to his rescue if he screws up in "the real world" whatever that is.
and it is never too late to be a parent ;) My father STILL tries to tell me what is and isn't good for me to eat and tell me how I should spend my money etc etc (even though this man survives on sausages and baloney sandwiches lol I don't think he is in any position to tell me how to eat haha) Parents are parents whether you are 2 or 20 or 90.
Once the school handed out the punishment, I would tell the teenager to suck it up, be glad that's all it is, and deal with it, which is pretty much what my parents would have told me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
Oh, I wasn't talking educational development, I mean emotional growth.
personal interaction with other people, that sort of thing.
I know...don't get me wrong I want to strangle one of mine 90 percent of the time but my other daughter is a complete hard working respectful kid, it just depends and they have the same parent so don't blame it on me :DQuote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
it is true.... sometimes parenting just is NOT enough. YOu can drill it into their brains and teach them and teach them but eventually they will develop their own personalities and if what you taught doesn't fit in with that.... they just go their own way. Like in your case..... they have two totally different personalities so they will react to your teachings in a completely different way. and some kids will just rebel no matter what you teach them. Some of them just need the fear of God to straighten them out :D lol
Pembroke_Corgi, I completley agree with what you have said and that's how I feel. It just always comes out wrong when I say it.
I hate when people say "back when I was young..". Were not back when you were young so stop trying to make it that way. Alot of you are also saying how you did stupid things when you were younger so why are you bashing the teenagers of now that do stupid things?
And I really don't think your generations had that much more respect for authorities.I have parents who were in that generation too and people in my family who taught in some of your generations so I've herd my share of stories about how bad some kids were. Obviously some had respect but they do now too.
Teenagers today are no are different than they ever were. They the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by Pembroke_Corgi
because they are at the same stage of development mentally & phsically.
Teenagers and adults will never act or think the same way about anything.
Well, very seldom) Their brains are at different levels of development. In
medical studies they call the" teenage brain" a work in progress. No
insult intended here, that's just the way it is.
http://www.edutopia.org/inside-teenage-brain
or http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/Teachers/brain.html
Okay I do completely agree with all of that and if it makes any of the teens feel better the teen body does not hurt as much as the old body :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
Amen sister, amen!Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
One language magazine asked its readers to supply examples of German words going into foreign languages. This would be a new example ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
BTW Germans would just with the same ironic accent say "Oh my god!" :D
Barbara, two years in Germany tends to twist one's vocabulary.
Dios mios....back in my day...I took calculus in high school...
Do you know there are some societies that VALUE the knowledge acquired in life?
This makes me think of a story. My brother, who is 2 years older than me...had just gotten his driver's license. He told my mother that he was a better driver than she...because he had faster reflexes. She said she was the better driver because she had the wisdom and experience to avoid situations where she needed faster reflexes.