Priscilla, you are doing OK in my book!! Watch all the ice and be sure you, Mom, and the others are safe!!!
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Priscilla, you are doing OK in my book!! Watch all the ice and be sure you, Mom, and the others are safe!!!
Thanks, Gary and Sandra. I will look for the Royal Canin Baby Kitten Food (is that wet or dry, Gary?) and Whiskas Ultra Milk. Hopefully tomorrow at Pet Supplies Plus.
That's happens here, too: I try something new that I hope will tempt Priscilla, and the other cats all want it, whether she does or not. (At least it doesn't go to waste if she doesn't like it.)
The ice storm hasn't hit yet. This morning the TV weather people were all going wild with it: there would be freezing rain all day, turning to sleet in the evening, turning to wet snow, the kind that packs down heavily on everything, for the next couple of days. There was a film of ice on things this morning, and it's been cold and dreary all day. Nothing coming down, though, wet or frozen. Yet. Maybe it's just delayed and will hit later. Don't worry, Sandra, I'm not going out again today, and the kitties don't go out, so we're all safe and warm, thank you!
Thanks for all the prayers and good wishes, dear friends!
Love,
Priscilla and Pat
We just heard on the radio about all the ice and other elements that are hitting Ohio and OK. But, you are in the state up North(MI), so hopefully you might have been bypassed by the weather!!! The Royal Canin Kitten food that Gary mentioned, I believe is dry food. It is the teeeniest pieces of food you will ever see!!! Keep Safe!!!
Glad to hear that Priscilla is doing better. My vet, Dr. Lee, agrees w/Barbara's vet, that it's better that she eats something rather than nothing. My Puddy has been in CRF for 2 years now and she is so stubborn and she turns up her nose at KD and nearly everything except her dry Purina Cat Chow and cooked chicken. So Dr. Lee said "Well then, give it to her, just make sure she gets those subQ fluids and see if she'll drink more water." So hopefully, things will go more smoothly for you. Puddy and I and the fur posse are pulling for you and Priscilla.
Blessings,
Mary
Thanks, Sandra and Mary, for the good wishes and encouragement. That's our idea, Mary, that it's best that she eat something, anything, if she won't eat the kidney food. She will eat some of the KD kibble but not very much.
Thanks, Sandra, about the Royal Canin Kitten Food. I found Royal Canin Babycat34 Food (dry) at Pet Supplies Plus today and got a bag. They didn't have Whiskas Ultra Milk. Is that a substitute for cats with lactose intolerance, or milk replacement for kittens that don't have mommy to nurse from? I got some JustBorn Milk Replacer for Kittens, but I'll wait until I hear what to look for before I try that.
I just served up a little of the Babycat (tiny morsels, indeed!). She sniffed it, pulled back, sniffed again, pulled back again. I put a pellet in her mouth a few times. She would suck it a bit, then let it drop back into the dish. Finally she put her head down and started eating! So at least it has aroused some interest. Maybe she'll like it more with the Ultra Milk!
Mary, that's great that Puddy has been going strong for two years in CRF! Thanks to her and you and the fur posse for the good wishes.
Sandra, this morning the weather people on TV were going crazy about the storm. They were running listings of all the school systems closed today. (I thought later, they were probably all closed anyway because today is Martin Luther King Day.) They said it's going to be freezing rain all day, then sleet and snow tonight. It was like, don't go out if you don't absolutely have to, and we're really gonna be walloped.
Tihs afternoon there was a glaze of ice on and around things. Tree branches and power lines fell in many places so power was out in many communities, but by and large things were going on as usual. Then this afternoon the "ice storm" warning was cancelled, and there are just going to be a few snow flurries. So, somehow we survived safely.
That's the latest. Thanks again, dear friends!
Pat and Priscilla
Something that I forgot to mention but you've prob. tried it already: baby food w/her favorite in it. Puddy's happens to be chicken but whatever Priscilla likes. And it has enough moisture in it, too, so that base is covered. Just a thought. :)
Blessings,
Mary
Thanks, Mary. Yes, baby food is a common fallback. Sometimes she likes it, sometimes she doesn't. Her tastes change constantly. (What do I expect? After all, she's a CAT!)
Pat
The Whiskas " Milk" is to give cats instead of milk. There may be other brands other there that I am unaware of. I will catmandu a poke to take a look at the posts!! Priscilla is behaving just like my Boo!!! Be ready to have s few more gray hairs!!! Glad you are OK. We are suppose to get some weather. Temps dropping and WIND!!!! I am going to light a fire in the stove shortly!!!
Thanks, Sandra, I'll see what Gary has to say. I'll exchange the "kitten replacement" milk for the "milk substitute" kind tomorrow, if that's the one to get.
Today there is a glaze of ice on all the bare tree branches right down to the tiniest twigs. The trees look lovely in the sunlight with the glistening light sparkling from the branches. (The branches that weren't so weighted down by the ice that they broke off and took down power lines or damaged cars and things.) But boy, is it ever COLD!!!!
Oh yeah, Priscilla likes something one time, then not the next. All of them do that, to some extent, but there isn't the urgency to make sure the others each eats a minimum amount (no problem like that with any of them).
This evening she ate a very little of the KD, then a very little of the Babycat, then a little more than that of some Trader Joe's Premium Dry Cat Food. Then some syringed MaxCal and her SubQ. So she got her quota.
Keep warm!
Pat
THE ROYAL BABY KITTEN FOOD IS DRY, AND USUALLY ON PROMOTIONAL PRICES OF A DOLLAR FOR THE TRIAL SIZE BAG.
AND I HAVE USED WHISKAS ULTRA MILK, AND FOUND IT VERY GOOD,
AND I KNOW THAT THE ANINAL WELFARE ASSOCIATION USES KMR AND SWEAR BY IT.
THE BEST OF LUCK WITH PRISCILLA, AND THE PET ANGELS WILL DROP BY AND SEE IF THEY CAN HELP.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...cats101220.jpg
hi there all!
princess priscilla, I know this would be a long road to go but I'm glad to know you're still eating, even little by little! keep up easy work dear one.
pat, I think you should keep trying different raw meat until she tells you what she likes. well, loves! dry food may be "too dry" right now, as she needs a lot of sub-q fluids & moisture food. baby food - gerbers are best - not much artificals and salt in these. microwave it a bit up so you could smell it for priscilla.
just curious - are you thinking about, after she gets all better, to feed all of your cats raw diet? that would prevent anybody from kidney failures for next time. also, cheaper way to keep them healthier. trader joe's beef is what I got for star too.
is she doing her business good and regularly? I hope so, will be keeping you all in our purryers and sending cozy vibes to keep you all warm!! we just had ice storm here yesterday - always a good reason to own pets. :D all those cuddles, huggles and snuggles.. :)
Hello,
I am so glad to hear that Priscilla is eating. My vet told me that the smeller the cat food the better since the amora makes them want to eat. Hang on to hope and enjoy each others time together. Priscilla sounds so loving and so loved. That is all any one can hope for wheather we are human or animal. Some people never get loved or know how to love. And sometimes an animal has more love, sweethness, kindness and understanding then a hundred people. I will continue to keep you and Priscilla in my prayers. It sounds as if she is doing well. Take care, Monica
I can attest to the above post about the smelly cat food!! It also helps to capture a cat for a rescue!!! But Priscilla is doing things her way and so far she is eating, although not alot, but she IS eating!!!
Thank you, everyone, for all the warm thoughts and good advice.
Priscilla went to the vet's today to get started on Epogen because of her low red blood cell count. But she had gained another .2 pound, and her hematocrit went up slightly from 13 to 14.. so once again we're going to wait on that and keep going as we are, and check her again in another week. Good little Priscilla, doing so well in her own little way!
I've had a long day and I'm very tired, so I'll say more in response to the suggestions about food tomorrow.
Thanks again, and love from us,
Pat and Priscilla (and Poppy and Elmer and Sydney and Peony)
poor you meowmie! no pressure, you don't have to answer my questions, it's not something you should worry about right now. I was looking for her picture, I think I've never saw her before. what a pretty cat!! :)
how old was she when this picture was taken? cuddle, snuggle, and hug with all of your kids and know we are thinking about you! and you, little priscilla too! rest well.. take care,
..gina and her ark
pssst, second set of park pictures will be up today, hope they will lift your day up!
Priscilla!! What a good report from the vet!!! See, all that picky eating resulted in a weight gain...YEA!!!! I know that this makes your Mom happy!! Pat have a relaxing evening!!! Take Care, Sandra
Gary, thank you, I think the Pet Angels have been on the job, because Priscilla had gained a bit of weight and had a slightly higher hematocrit when she saw the vet yesterday!
The Babycat food is dry, with very tiny pellets. I'll try a little of that mixed with the kitten milk replacement maybe tomorrow. I think Gina may be right that food with moisture is probably better.
Gina, maybe tomorrow I can pick up some more raw meat, probably chicken this time. It looks like at Whole Foods and Trader Joe's the chicken is all prepackaged, and there are all kinds of different cuts of it. What would you suggest I get to try? I might at some point switch all the cats to it if they're agreeable to the idea. Do the kinds of available raw meats have all the nutrients that cats but not necessarily humans require, such as taurine?
Thanks for the good wishes and prayers, Monica. Yes, Priscilla is doing quite well under the circumstances, and she is very loving and very loved.
Good point about the smellier the better, everyone.. That certainly gets their attention, thank you! Priscilla is doing things her way and making little steps of progress.
Gina, that picture of Priscilla is from a few years back, at least 3 because that's when I took the course where I made that web site. She was maybe 3 or 4 years old then, maybe even younger. There are a couple of recent ones of her at the beginning of this thread, but they are thumbnails and you click on them to see them regular size. (I still haven't worked out how to use PhotoBucket or one of those to put pictures right in my messages.)
Thanks, Gina and Sandra, I got a good night of sleep last night, oversleeping about 2 hours so i was late for work. I hope to get a bit more rest over the next couple of days.. Famous last words...
Thanks again, wonderful friends, we love you all,
Pat, Priscilla, Peony, Poppy, Sydney, and Elmer
Pat, you surely deserved those extra hours of sleep!!!! I am glad to hear of Priscilla's progress!!!
Thanks, Sandra. I'm still trying to catch up! Meanwhile, Priscilla continues to hang in there, doing things her way.
Today I found organic chicken at the People's Food Coop, but it's all prepackaged and even the smallest was way more meat than I wanted to get. So then I went to Sparrow's Meat Market, where they didn't have organic chicken but did have free-range, chemical-free, pesticide-free, etc.-free chicken, so I got a bit there. I haven't had Priscilla sample it yet.
Pat
Would you mind if we came over? All that food has the Clan drooling!! I hope Priscilla continues to do HER thing and eat!!
Has Priscilla sampled the chicken yet.
Prayers still on the way that she continues to eat and do things HER way. :)
Thanks, Sandra and Lorraine. Come on over!
We tried the chicken tonight. Priscilla wasn't interested, even after I made little tiny pieces for her and put a few in her mouth. At least she didn't just let them drop out of her mouth but did swallow them. Sydney ate some but left the rest of his serving. Poppy kept taking her chunk out of the bowl and putting it on the carpet and shaking it around, I guess so she could feel more like she had captured it in the wild. Elmer and Peony vaccuumed theirs up. Elmer also finished up Sydney's and Priscilla's leftovers.
I also tried some of the Babycat kibblets in some Milk Substitute. She sniffed it, pulled back, sniffed some more, pulled back some more. I put a couple of drops of the solution on her nose and tongue. She licked them up and seemed to enjoy them but not enough to exert herself and lean over to eat from the bowl. I tried a few of the little kibbles in the milk, putting them on her tongue, and she would eat them, seemingly enjoying them, but again couldn't be bothered to go to the trouble to eat them herself. Then she jumped down, so I put the bowl on the floor, where Elmer polished it off in no time.
As you can tell, Priscilla continues to do it HER way.
Again, thanks for all the prayers and encouragement and good wishes!
Love,
Pat and Priscilla
Priscilla!! You are one very amusing kitty!!! The next thing I thought I was going to read, was that you pawed at the food and tried to hide it. Boo would do that!!! You are making sure that Mom is very much aware that PATIENCE is a virtue!!!! Sandra
Come on now, Priscilla! Mommy is trying very hard to cater to your wishes, please be a good girl and eat up! ;)
I served up some more raw chicken this afternoon. Priscilla was not interested again, even after I hand-fed her several small pieces. Poppy, Elmer, and Sydney scarfed theirs right up. (Peony was snoozing in the closet, so I didn't disturb her.)
Thanks for the encouragement for Priscilla, Sandra and Kim.. Maybe one of these days she'll listen to you! Yes, one must learn patience (or go berserk) catering to the lovely Ms. Priscilla.
Pat and Priscilla
O, dear!! I have this picture in my mind of Priscilla turning up her nose at the food!!! Sandra
She doesn't exactly turn up her nose at it, Sandra.. it's more like she gets close enough to it to tell it doesn't meet her approval, then pulls her head back. Come to think of it, I guess she really is turning up her nose at it!
Pat
Hi Pat!!!
How is Priscilla doing!? Sandra
Hi, Sandra. Priscilla made another champion showing at the vet's yesterday. (Sorry, I didn't have a chance to check in here last evening.)
She weighed in at 5.7 pounds.. a .2 lb. increase since last week and .7 lb. increase (that's about 15 percent) over the last three weeks! And her hematocrit has gone up another couple of points to 15 now, so the plan to start her on Epogen is on hold.
I asked Dr. Lewis what is the long-term prognosis for her, and she said it's not good.. she's had cats going two years and more, but she "doubts we'll be doing all these things for her four years from now." She said Priscilla's recent improvements are due "entirely to the hard work you and she have been doing."
Meanwhile, we'll keep doing as we've been doing, and she goes back for another checkup in two weeks.
Thanks, and love to all,
Pat and Priscilla
Sounds good though, Pat. Another four years? Priscilla might not have had that with other owners....you done so good with her, and the vet knows that!
I wonder about Reiki on her - I know Craftlady has had great results with Thumper. With conditions like Priscilla's - I wonder if it would be of benefit, especially since it is really manageable right now?
HUGS to Cilla and blessings to the best Meowmie she could ever have! :)
Thanks, Candace.. we're really working hard! I thought the four years sounded pretty good.. that she probably has a fair amount of time ahead of her (and who knows what might happen in that time...).
I don't know anything about Reiki, though I've heard of it. From what you say, it sounds like it's worth looking into. Do you know anything about it? Just today I saw an ad in a local magazine for a Reiki practitioner (though maybe just for humans). I'm sure there are more around here.
I've attached another picture of her. Dr. Lewis took this when I brought Priscilla in back in November and they wound up keeping her for three days. It was going to be her file picture. Priscilla flopped over and gazed up seductively as Dr. Lewis aimed her camera. Sorry, it is still an attachment.. one of these days when I have some time and no more-immediate tasks to take care of (whenever that might be), I will figure out how to do Photobucket or one of those.
Thanks again, Candace and everyone!
xoxoxoxoxx and purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,
Pat and Priscilla
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a Bee-yoo-ti-ful face! Hug that baby for me!
Pat, our Miss Boo Boo Kitty was about 12 when she developed kidney and passed on at 16. Presently, I have 3 kidney cats. Molly, at 13, has been gettting the fluids, three times a week, for about 2+ years. She was eating the k/d, then refused to eat it or any of the other kidney diets. She presently devours Friskies(I cringe every time I feed her)and some Royla Cannin Renal LP dry. Raven will be 11 in April and has been a kidney cat for almost 7 years. She eats the canned k/d and gets sq twice a week. And there is Nicholas, who will be 11 in July. No sub q, eats the k/d and the Royal Cannin Renal LP. I will have to agree with Catty1, if it was not for what you are doing for Priscilla, she would not have improved as well as she has!!! I know if Raven was not rescued from that horrible home, she would not be alive! We do the best we can do...and that is what you are doing!! Priscilla is just precious and such a flirt!!!
Awe... sweet Priscilla. I hope she continues to get better! Just look at that angelic face!
awwwwwwwwwwwww!! sweetness alert!!!!!
Thanks, Candace, Sandra, Jenn, and Sprokett. I'm glad you liked the photo. ISN'T she adorable??!!! She certainly thinks so! She's the Princess.
Wow, Sandra, you've certainly had your hands full with taking care of kidney cats! I'm very impressed that Raven has been a kidney cat for 7 years and is still going strong. You're right, we are doing the best we can. I will help Priscilla as well as I can to keep going as long as she wants to keep going.
She is on my lap purring as I write. She has been much more affectionate since all this started. Some people have said it's because she knows how hard I'm working to try and help her. But I wonder if it isn't a kitty version of the Stockholm Syndrome: here I've been doing all these mean things to her (sticking needles in her back, squirting food into her mouth, pushing pills down her throat), so she figures she'd better be nice to me or I might do even meaner things!
Pat
AWWWWWWWW!!!! Just look at her sweet face. She is too adorable.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...aDrLewis-1.jpg
Pat!!! Priscilla's eyes are stunning!!! Have you been able to let up on the pilling and other things?
I am glad that I can help my kidney kitties. When Raven had her bloodwork done a bit ago, Dr. Ascher could not believe the results!! All was WNL(within normal limits). She said that is because Raven gets fluids and eats the kidney diet. BUT, when Molly had bloodwork done last month, the same thing happened, all WNL!! But Molly is the one who eats the Friskies(11% protein), but does get 100 cc's Lactated Ringer's TIW(three times a week). Now, I wonder does the amount of protein in the diet REALLY matter??? Anyone have an answer?
Sandra, I'm still doing the twice-daily subQ and syringe-feeding her to add to what she eats on her own. At this point we're working mainly on getting her hematocrit up. She is making slow and steady progress there.
That's wonderful how your girls are doing so well! Especially with Molly's Friskies diet. That is very encouraging news for Priscilla and me. Thanks!
Pat
How much sub q do you give twice a day??? I had been doing that twice a day to Boo, and it flushed out EVERYTHING from her bladder, and she came down with an infection(bladder)caused by e.coli!! I really freaked out when I got that c&s report from the vet!!!