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You show up anyway. If nothing else a bench warrent will be given for his failure to appear and threat charges for a restraining. You go- and say whatever you and her need too. The judge will still listen to the restraining order as it has nothing to do with the arrest...Quote:
Originally Posted by kimlovescats
We will. I sure was counting on him being arrested again by now though. :confused:
Whether they get him yet or not, the restraining order if they dont find him, convinces the judge more so to get it done! ( trust me..)Quote:
Originally Posted by kimlovescats
Well, actually, they can't issue a bench warrant for failure to appear for a court hearing that he was never noticed to appear at. However, borzoimom is right, your daughter Must appear at that hearing. She can ask the Judge to continue the restraints, and he may listen to some of the other concerns she has. At the next court hearing even if her husband has not been served the Judge may make the restraints permanent (issue a final restraining order). Your daughter should take a copy of the final order to ther local police department to be put in their files as well. Just make sure that your daughter shows up at every court hearing in relation to that restraining order, whether he shows up or not. I have seen RO dismissed for lack of prosecution because the complainant didn't show up.
Thank you, Ginger's Mom, for your input as well! ;)
I swear!!! We finally got Chad arrested and picked back up again this afternoon. This was from the warrant we issued from him putting that note on Amy Beth's door. It was a violation of his probation. His bond was set at $60,000.00 so he had to have $6,000.00 to bail out. Well, Amy Beth just called and said that the jail called and told her that Chad just bonded out AGAIN! Where in the heck is he getting all of this money to keep getting out???? :mad: Supposedly, his mom doesn't have that kind of money! I'm just sick over this! :(
:eek: :( :mad: What the #x!!*#! Not again! I'm so sorry you have to go through this. The workings of the legal system just baffle the imagination sometimes. All I can say is hang in there, his behavior will surely land him back in a cell (hopefully for a while) and I pray you are all safe in the meanwhile.
Thank you for caring! I feel like many have just moved on from this thread, but it's real in our lives and is no where near over! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by cyber-sibes
dear kim, i haven't posted before, but i've been reading every update. you all have been in my prayers. i have an idea, can you and your daughter get an appointment to talk to the lead proscuter in your area, bring all the copies of notes, the bailbonds, any police reports, hospital reports, anything related to this case and when you talk to them this time, tell the DA that you will also be talking notes from this meeting and going to the local editor of the biggest paper in town and what ever tv station has an "action team on your side". publicity makes poor public preformance improve. smile, gently mention this. and we'll keep praying for you all
Thank you. I already tried to call the DA's office and was told that there are at least 3 different DA's and they have 100's of cases coming up at the same time. Basically they couldn't do anything ... we would just have to wait until the day of court and fill them in at the last minute! :rolleyes: Some system, huh? As far as calling the news .... we're not "big time" enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by joycenalex
Tomorrow morning, Amy Beth has to be in court at 9:00 a.m. for the restraining order she filed OVER a WEEK ago! As of today, it hadn't even been served yet!!! I don't know if they served it when they arrested him today or not ... I doubt it! So, most likely she will waste her time in court tomorrow, he probably won't be there, and she will get put off for who knows how long.
The court date for the aggravated assault charge is January 2nd. All I can do is hope and pray that he is sent to jail for a LONG time after that! I never thought I would ever want Christmas to come and go and the first of the year come. :(
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Originally Posted by kimlovescats
Kim,
Hun don't let them try and say they can't serve him in jail, because they can. That is a federal law. If you have to find out when he is in jail go up there and present them with the order and a return notice that he has to sign saying he has received it. If you need help or someone to talk to I'm always here for you.
Hugs
Renae
Oh Kim, I am appaled at these updates. It puts such faith in our court systems... it seems they are now set up to protect the criminals instead of the people they hurt. Many prayers for your family tomorrow.
Amy Beth is not wasting her time. As someone here - Borzoimom? - said, she has seen restraining orders cancelled because the complainant (Amy) did not show up.
Her showing up shows that she - and you - are serious about this.
HUGS!
You show up honey- you show up! It shows the court this is not resolved, it shows the court YOU ARE RESOLVED to finish this, and it shows the court, you are willing to take the time because you believe in this and know what is going on.. You show up.. ! Get there early as a matter of fact. Other cases get dropped because people did not show- but you are there..
I will add the following: make sure Amy Beth and YOU show up, without Jenna. Dress appropriately, write down ahead of time what you want to make sure you emphasize, and be strong.
The prosecutor has too many cases, and they usually shift rooms every month (at least here in our main county), cases settle, etc., that no time is spent at preliminary hearings, or, for trials. Staying in touch with the main officer, or probation officer is **usually** the best thing. Make it personal to them. Write a letter or two to have it stuck in jacket. Let the prosecutor, that sees this day in and day out, know how serious you are. Too many times this is just used as a way to get back at someone....
Stay the course. :(
Still thinking and praying for you, Amy, Jenna, and the family. *hugs*
PERFECT!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataholic
Oh my Kim, I am so sorry that you , your daughter and little Jenna have to go through all this mess.... :( . All I can wish you all is LOTS of COURAGE! Don't give up, this is worth it...! Please stay safe..... I begged my little brother-in-heaven to watch over all of you :)
I didn't get to go because I had to keep Jenna. Amy Beth did go, and his mother came and sat down right beside her, to harrass her! I wish I had been able to go and keep her from doing that!!! :mad: :(
We don't have anyone else right now that can keep Jenna .... the mil was usually our backup. I will be sure to make it to the main hearing in January though. I think my hubby will still be on his work break and can keep Jenna for us! If not, I will find SOMEONE to keep her for us!!!
Anyway, the judge continued it because he said a civil case has to come AFTER a criminal case. So the criminal case (aggravated assault) will be held on January 2nd, and the continuance for the restraining order will be held on January 25th. HOPEFULLY, he will be arrested and jailed after the January 2nd date and there will be no need for the January 25th date. This thing just keeps going on and on and on.
Surely he will stop stalking her now .... as he only found out about the restraining order yesterday when he was arrested. His mother played her usual games of "just wanting to see the best for Jenna" and denying he has done anything wrong! :rolleyes: She wants to see Jenna really bad, but that isn't going to happen until all of this is settled!!!
THANK YOU all for your continued support and prayers! I am reading all the comments and taking the advice that you give as much as I can!
Kim
She sat next to her to show there wasnt a problem with how they got along. I would have moved - even it meant standing in the aisle... I know this process is exhausting- just continue to take the steps and keep going.. ! Remember what I sent in private messages, and keep trucking!!! lol Your prayers and hers are with us...
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Originally Posted by borzoimom
She just sat there for a few minutes, then she moved and sat somewhere else.
:( Oh Kim I am so sorry you all have to go thru this.. How long do you think they can keep him in jail?? Do you realy think he will stop Stalking Amy Beth?? Just remember he will always state he was just trying to see his girl Jenna.. CREEP HE IS!!! Gosh I wish I could come to TN & I would for sure keep Jenna for you.. Hey PM me any time.. Sending Many Many (((((((((( Huuggss & Prayers..))))))))))
GOOD!!!! ( witch.. mutter mutter...)Quote:
Originally Posted by kimlovescats
I'm sorry to hear that things are still unresolved...hang in there until January, and then hopefully you will be able to rest more easily at night.
Hey Kim. If I wasn't going to be back in school by then I would take the time off to come down there to watch Jenna for you.
That's very sweet of you, Renae, but it would be way too far for you to come! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mina'smomma
YOU WAY WORTH IT SWEETIE!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kimlovescats
Last night after Amy Beth got home from work .... around midnight .... she was at her neighbor's apartment. (the former high school friend who makes sure she gets in safely every night) He stepped outside and saw CHAD walking down the sidewalk towards Amy Beth's apartment ... wearing a black hoodie!!!! He was obviously trying to sneak up on Amy Beth's apartment!!! :( :mad: His car was also parked in the same row as hers! He is so stupid!!!
Anyway, the cops were called, and he fled on foot. Two guys were in the parking lot and Amy Beth's friend confronted them. Later it was discovered that Chad was visiting / hiding out in these guys' apartment. One of them is his best friend, and lives in the same building as Amy Beth! :rolleyes: :( Amy Beth's friends went down and let the air out of Chad's tire, but didn't slash it or anything bad like that. Chad still left in his car later, but he probably got some rim damage! :p
Basically the cops said they couldn't do anything, and Amy Beth got a bit upset with them. One of them was a jerk and told her to not tell him how to do his job! :mad: She later left a message for her private investigator.
This evening her P.I. called her back and asked her to meet her at 8:30 a.m tomorrow at the Sheriff's Dept. downtown. I think SURELY she will do something about this! She is the one who picked him up this last time. Please PRAY that they get him AGAIN! I don't doubt he will make bail again, but each time he does this he is just hurting himself more and more. What scares me is that if he continues to do stupid things, he may be thinking that since he is sure to go to jail "anyway" that he "might as well" do what he wants! I'm scared that he might escalate what he tries each time. :(
I'll update as soon as I know anything else. HOPEFULLY tomorrow!
Tsk, Tsk. It's always the poor babies who suffer. If I lived closer, you bet I'd have that precious, beautiful child with me whenever you needed help.
My prayers are with you and your family, Kim. My heart is breaking for you, too. I know, as a mother, to see this going on with your daughter, is heartbreaking.
can amys' witness to chads' ongoing stupid behavior go with you AGAIN? keep documenting. keep reporting, and can you line up a non-family babysitter, so as many family members go with amy as possible? to make it obvious she's supported by many loving caring people?
What a moron. :mad: :( I really hope Amy's meeting with the PI and sheriff go well. *hugs*
I hate when cops talk to woman like they are a peice of cr..
Him saying to her "Don't tell me how to do my job".
This is why so many woman get killed by their ex's because some cops are too male chouvinistic toward woman to help them fully.What an a.. for that remark to her.
Amy Beth is doing everything right.You must be so proud of her.I hope this creep gets put behind bars soon for a long long time.
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Originally Posted by flamepony12
ME, TOO (((hugs)))
So much for the thoughts that Amy Beth is "doing everything right". She called me this morning around 10:00 a.m. to tell me that she was being arrested and taken to jail! She said that "her" private investigator charged her with filing a false complaint (or something like that) for the call about Chad being at her apartment yesterday. I don't know what to believe. But regardless of whether this charge is rightful or not, is NOT the issue. While Amy Beth was gone to meet with the P.I.... she had left Jenna at home in the apartment ALONE!!! At the time of this call to me, Jenna was STILL home alone and had been for close to 2 hours!!! :( :( :mad: Needless to say, I screamed and yelled at my daughter for being so stupid and negligent. All she could do was say how her charges were so unfair and everything was Chad's fault. She thought the meeting with the P.I. would only "take about 5 minutes" and today was MY day off from keeping Jenna, and she just didn't want to deal with taking Jenna along. Jenna is TWO, and she gets restless and fussy in public places, so DEAL WITH IT!!! Don't leave her HOME ALONE!!!! :mad: :(
I immediately got off the phone with her and got my husband to rush to the apartment to get Jenna. We called the apt. manager to have maintenance meet us there with a key. (Amy Beth didn't want me to have a key even though WE co-signed for her lease!) Any way when we got to the apartment their were 2 cop cars there. I literally ran into the apartment screaming for Jenna!!! Thank God she was ok and the cops had fixed her some Fruit Loops to snack on. No doubt the first she had to eat all day! :( I grabbed Jenna right into my arms and bawled my eyes out for a very long time. I just cannot believe that Amy Beth did this. To add insult to injury there were items on the counter that were very upsetting and harmful! All out in visible sight on the counter. All of this was documented, video taped, and photographed. There was also no food in the cabinets and the small bit of milk was out of date. I just gave her over $200.00 of her own money this past Friday to buy groceries for the next two weeks, and she hadn't bought anything! :( I can only assume that she is buying drugs instead of food for her baby. I know that Amy Beth has still been eating fast food. Yesterday I asked if Jenna had eaten lunch, and her response was "oh, she ate a little bit of a taco ... but I don't think she liked it .. so yeah, she probably is hungry!" In otherwords, she bought herself tacos, Jenna got a bite or two and nothing else. Grammy always feeds her when she gets here.
I am so beside myself with shock, fear, disgust, and broken-heartedness that I can barely think straight. Amy Beth's bondswoman just called me to co-sign to let her bail out .... I refused. This was the hardest thing I have ever had to do in my life. I have no doubt that my daughter thinks that I have turned my back on her. I told the bondswoman to explain to her that it is the fact that she left Jenna home alone, and in an unsafe environment, that was the final straw for me.
DCS approved us to keep Jenna for now ... thank GOD we got there in time so that she wasn't put in foster care! It is only good until Dec. 27 but the DCS worker said that it will most likely be extended at that time. I just hope and pray that they never let Chad come and get her either!
I am so frazzled right now, please pray for us.
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OMG! Kim...I'm so so sorry.This is horrible to say the least.She is NOT doing the right thing...like we assumed she WAS doing the right thing.. :(
You have so much on your plate Kim..I wish I could help you in some way.
You have all the cats...now a new baby living under your care...and you now have to worry about what's going to happen in the future with your daughter and if they eventually put your granddaughrer in foster care.I hope it never comes to that.I PRAY it never comes to that.
Prayers...extra for you and your family from Maine.I hope they work.
OMG!!! I just cannot imagine what you are going through right now!!! I am so sorry you are having to deal with this!! Thank god you got there in time to take care of Jenna!! Poor baby!!! I think you did the best thing, by not paying the bail!! She definitely needs to think about what she has done!! Especially to her child!!! Prayers for you!!!
Oh Kim, I don't even know what to say. I am soooo soooo very sorry. Know you are in my thoughts and prayers. I hope something good finally comes out of this. Poor little Jenna. Thank God she has you. Be strong I know it is hard but you are the only strength Jenna has. So be strong for her. And in turn we will be strong for you.
((((HUGS))))
Again I am sooo sorry for all this nightmare.
I feel so bad for you and Jenna, Kim!! I'll keep you all in my thoughts and prayers :(
I can't imagine the stress you're going through but it's got to be next to impossible to live like this. Keep the faith sweetie!! :(
OMG ....... what the heck was Amy Beth thinking???? NO thinking here, no doubt about that ...! How could she leave a 2 year old alone with drugs on the counter :eek: :mad: . No excuse for that, you took the right decision about NOT bailing her out!
Poor little Jenna, I feel so sorry for this sweet innoscent little girl... . But at least she is safe now, she is with her dearest grandma now :) , someone who loves her VERY much!
You are all in my prayers, Kimmie!!
Dear sweet Kim. All I can say is that I think Amy Beth is in the right place. She needs to stay there. And, Jenna is in the right place. She needs to stay with you.
You are in our thoughts and prayers.
OMG Kim! I can't believe how bad this has turned. I think you did the right thing in not bailing her out. She needs help and hopefully this will help her realize it.
You're in my prayers.