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Originally Posted by Jadapit
Give your girls a big hug for me, I would trust your girls with my life. I need to stay out of this thread it is too upsetting.
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Originally Posted by Jadapit
Give your girls a big hug for me, I would trust your girls with my life. I need to stay out of this thread it is too upsetting.
If you like them then why are you being so negative about them?! :confused:
so would I. give them a big hug for me, too, Donna. :) I do, too caseysmom. I just hate when people bash a breed that we come to know and love. and some people are so blind to see how truly great pit bulls are. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
I am not bashing anyone- I am telling you all what my experience was, and what you need in order to protect yourself financially etc.. You do what you want.. Its not worth the risk to me.. My friend is in jail, lost her house, her job etc for a wonderful well trained dog...Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
You ladies could trust my fur kids with your life. I will give them all a hug for you two. I'm done with this thread also we aren't going to get anywhere anyway. I'm almost in tears it is very upsetting to have a breed you love with all your heart bashed over and over again.... :(
Oy vay....should I just start another thread? Call it an anti-poodle one? If you read my first thread, I called the poodle who bit me, a STINKING poodle. And yes, this poodle stunk...for biting me. My second thread was a JOKE on my first one...using the wood STINKING. Got it? Good. Let's stay on the subject at hand - pit bulls.
Still love Pit Bulls .....and I still love (non-stinking) poodles too.
How do you think I feel? I visit my friend every tuesday IN JAIL..... She is on suicide watch btw.. I am nottttttttt kidding... One afternoon changed her life totally... This is awful. Someone needs to tell the bad side of this- maybe if nothing else for someone to do something. ... And the gentlemen that was killed in his own house when he tried to feed his dogs.. Can you imagine? This wasnt a trailer park type of dog- this was a member of the communittee chewed to shreds... by his own dogs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jadapit
can you please just stop?! we already know how you feel. there's no need to go on about it. :(
do what you want... its very worrisome to me... Too much has happened in this little one area in a matter of a year.. Its terrifying. ...
Hi. I don't normally come over to the dog side too much; right now I am owned by 7 cats and that keeps me busy. I have owned dogs, in the past, just not currently. I owned dogs in the 50 to 60 pounds range.
I was a bit surprised to see so many of you refering to pitbulls as a breed? I thought it is / was a use or purpose, like sight hounds, scent hounds, shepherds and so forth. I thought 'pitbull' could refer to any number of breeds or mixes of those breeds. Including, but not limited, to boxer, bulldogs, mastiffs (American and English, bull mastiff) and so on. If the dog came from a line which, at one time, had been bred to fight in the pits, then it could inherit those tendencies. Over time, those become more diluted from responsible breeders who are following AKC guidelines, and getting the breed back to a friendly - or friendlier - personality. So if you get a breed of dog that was once used in that line (legal or illegal, that is not my point here), and if the breeder has history on file, you have a better idea of the chances of that particular dog having those tendencies, right?
At least, that is what I thought. I don't think the AKC recognizes a breed as "pitbull," but I am not sure. Of course, there are plenty of rare breeds not recognized by AKC. But I am not sure pitbull is one of those, either.
I have known rotties that were big mushy droolers all their lives, and I have known a rottie that I wouldn't turn my back on. Part of it is the way the owner trains the dog, some of it is in the genes.
Well, as I said at the start, I don't have a lot of dog knowledge. Maybe someone here has more and /or different ideas.
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Originally Posted by borzoimom
I honestly dont understand why your friend's in jail? They usually do take the dog but not the human to jail. Why isnt anyone bailing her out??? The bail cant be that high. I asked you this before but you never answered me. Was your friends pit bull in a fenced yard? I have no idea why the mans three dogs killed him. That is awful. Sooooo many times when it comes to a pit bull attack there are two sides to the story we never hear the whole truth if its up to the media.
You have told your side of the story over and over we get it but it still doesn't chande my mind about the breed. I can find you horror stories about other dogs that have attacked and yes even killed people. I have a neighbor that owned an Akita he attacked a couple of people. Does that make me hate the Akita? No. A family rottie in our area attacked one of its family members (a little girl) a week or so ago. Do I hate rotties now? No. I dont think anyone should ever hate a dog because of its breed. I'm really done with this thread now. You take care....
UKC and ADBA do/Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
American Pit Bull Terriers were around why before AKC got a hold of them and changed the name To American Staffordshire Terrier
The bail was set at 50 grand, and it was also considered attempted homocide because the woman almost died. Then the insurance got involved with this- and criminal assalt charges because of the type of breed, and although we all showed up to say what a wonderful dog this was, with obedience titles etc he said it was criminal assult. The whole thing just snow balled! Then they did a neocropsy on the dog to prove that the dog must have been sick - nope... its was awful! Then a few miles down the road, this man that was a deacon in the whole town church was mauled to death by his dogs at feeding time.. nooooooooo one has a clue about that one.. Soooo the county banned all of the pit breeds within the city limits and the county if you register the dogs with the PD... Theeeennnn 6 months before allllllll of this, a member of our county was attached, elderly woman and she and her little shitzu were killed.. Soooooooooooooooooo ( sigh..) the county has had enough.... Alllllllllll of the incidents none of the attacks made any sense at all as far as being predictable. Even the older woman that was killed- the dogs did get loose once in a while, but they always went to play with the kids in the playground at the elementary school- that one day they didnt..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jadapit
I am sorry= I am looking for answers as much as everyone else is= only in mind to explain why this happens??? I mean I know other breeds attack too- but not with the seriouseness of these attacks.. I mean out of NOOOOOOOOO WHERE..
Answer me this- what do I tell my friend when she keeps asking me " Michelle- why???? why???? Ssoooooooooooooo trained...= why?? why???"- I feel soooooooo stupid saying its Gods will and I dont know the answer.. Just once I want to give her answer.. Especially when the medical tests on the dog came back the dog was totally healthy....
She lost her house because she was in jail, and couldnt work and the house forclosed- then the lawsuits came in and stopped the forclosure for a better sale- so after it was done- it barely paid off the mortagage but she still owes a ton of money in the law suit for the attack and pain and suffereing which of course- incures interest etc...
Which county in Virginia is this?
I reread this thread before it went astray.
If your friend was traing and obtained a CD and CDX on this dog.It was not a pit bull.....It was an American Staffordshire Terrier.
Everyone Please Stop!!!!
I only started this thread to give my husband some insight. Not to start arguements. I personally love the breed.Everyone has their opinions .. Fine! When I sarted tyhis I wnted positive insights. I know the bad and the good . I wanted my husband to hear some good points . all you ever hear on TV is the bad. I am tired of it. We do not have a breed ban where I live , I know the insurance. My dad has one. I am etting a puppy from him . I know the parents of the puppies. I would trust my kids with them 100%. And trust me, my children try my patience so you know what these dogs go through. But they love my children.I am so sorry that this turned into an arguement. I am sorry that your friend is in jail, I really am. But like everyone here is saying , there are two sides to every story. Again I am sorry this turned the way it did.:(
That is correct.. But the judge lumped them in the same catagory- and the other two deaths were also American Staffy's also... Is one breed more problematic than the others? Like I know bull terriers and bull dogs are doll babies... I wish I had answers to my questions..Quote:
Originally Posted by rutylr
Which county did this ban happen in?
It's NOT your fault! there's just some people on here that have to be negative about them. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Heather78418
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now for a positive thing.. :D
you would seriously love this girl at the shelter where I volunteer. :)
she's a sweetie. :) her name is Te Koa and she is 8 months old now.
http://pbrc.net/webapp/pics/fullsize/2232_5213.jpg
http://pbrc.net/webapp/pics/fullsize/2232_5214.jpg
http://pbrc.net/webapp/pics/fullsize/2232_5215.jpg
http://pbrc.net/webapp/cgi-bin/dog_d...c07e6a?id=2232
all breeds- you have to know both sides of the details here.. Better to know than not and have something happen.... Just like people that get sighthounds that have cats, if they arent told they will chase cats, a problem can occur... Doing the same thing here...
First off ....sorry for the outburst.:o She is beautiful. How old is she?? I hate how people get them and then decide they dont want them. Thats how I got my five month old kitty. Someone threw her away in a dumpster when she was just two months old. Where are you located??
Which county were you referring to borzoimom?
my hound gets along GREAT with my cats!
he would never harm them. guess what he was doing when I went into my parent's bedroom to get the dog dishes? he was snuggling with Miagi.
don't be sorry! If this was my thread..I'd be upset too turning the way it did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heather78418
she's 8 months old. She's been with us since she was 6 months. oh my God!! what is wrong with people? throwing them in the dumpster?! :mad: how Te Koa came to the shelter is was she's been in before and this lady's son owned her and she didn't want anything to do with her because she's a pit bull! :mad: I live in Butte, Montana. I am not sure how close that is to you.
What complete idiotic garbage this new person has started in this thread. Absolute rubbish and it sickens me that they call themselves dog lovers.
Look at my Shepherd/Pit Bull about to kill baby Ashley!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...es/8-15/41.jpg
He's SO vicious. He's going to kiss her to DEATH.
Is this in Spotsylvania? I tried to look it up and something came up with Spotsylvania?Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
I am sorry but I have read everything you have said about pitbulls not knowing when to release their bite. Tht is not always true. My dad had a pitbull that was his baby. We had someone break into our house when I was about eight years old . The person broke in through my bedroom window. Harley was sleeping in my bed. She knocked the guy down and held him there. But she never broke the skin.As soon as I got my dad. All he had to say was come.She let go immediatly.She went and sat by him like it was no big deal.He wasnt a professional trainer or anything. She was just a very well trained baby..
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Originally Posted by Kfamr
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Originally Posted by luvofallhorses
Thank You . I live in South Texas. That is quite a distance. But she is gorgeous.
This is what I found. I've deleted the dog owners name to protect her privacy. Not sure if this is your friend. But please believe me, I am sorry for what happened to her. My heart goes out to her & her family (and the victims too). I can see your side of the argument.
But in my own opinion, and I know you disagree with it, Pit Bulls are good dogs. I don't know why your friends dogs attacked and we'll probably never know. I wish I knew what you could tell your friend. But it seems like she has someone who supports her & is there for her.
A Spotsylvania County grand jury indicted a woman in the March 8 death of a neighbor who was mauled by three pit bulls. The neighbor, Dorothy Sullivan, 82, was walking her Shih Tzu when the attack occurred. It took officials four days to identify the pit bulls' owner, who is charged with involuntary manslaughter. Lisa A. Bacon (NYT)
Lisa Bacon is the reporters name.
What an irresponsible pet owner, letting her dogs roam the neighborhood. If she allowed this she deserves to be in jail, there were other reports of the dogs being aggressive, they don't sound like well cared for dogs to me.
here's a positive pit bull story that the family pit bull saved a teenager from being kidnapped this summer.
http://www.nokillnow.com/pitsavesboy.html
Oh wow wow wow wow wow.
Let me say I LOVE Pitties. I would have a hundred pitties in my puppy and beginner classes and never blink and eye or worry for my safety, my pup's or any of my parent's safety. I have only been bitten by one breed in my classes.... 4 times in 6 months by 4 different dogs of the same breed... each of them were less than 5 pounds full grown.
I can't believe that in this day and age people are still listening to the hoopla about pitties. Bozoi, it sounds to me like there's a bad blood line in your area. I live in Pennsylvania right near the "famous" Lancaster puppy mills. About 90% of the GSDs I see coming from there have aggression issues. No kidding. I usually recommend people interested in them to look elsewhere and bring the puppies here.... and when they do, its amazing the difference in the pup. It sounds like the breeders and that particular bloodline should be banned not the dog.
Here's a picture of my mean pittie mix dog (she's also part mastiff and German shepherd -- oh no! :eek: ). Ears forward, stare intent. Is she about to attack? No, she's begging for a treat
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...GimmeTreat.jpg
she's gorgeous, Kim! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by catnapper
I would like to say- can this thread be closed please? She and her bf/ husband(?) KNEW the bad, she wanted to show him the god side. Sounds like the OP wants this thread to be closed, she wanted good, you gave her bad.
BTW- a golden retriever did this to my pit bull mix. I stll like goldens.
http://longfellow.zoto.com/img/45/31...09df9541d-.jpg
Here is my pit mix hope she doesn't hurt her little brother
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...eyandbubba.jpg
here she goes:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...erapics891.jpg
I dont mind the positive at all if we can keep the negetive to a minimum it would be wonderful. I just read about borzoimoms friend . I am sorry about what happened to her but if she let her dogs run loose like that , then she was asking for problems. That was neglecting her resposibilities. Here where I live your dogs have to be kept in fenced yard. And if not in that yard then on a leash. Its funny how the dogs were loose on several occasions. I am sorry about your friend.