Glad you managed to alreat the owner of the dog before the dog got smooshed in the road. :eek:
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Glad you managed to alreat the owner of the dog before the dog got smooshed in the road. :eek:
if its cold out and you just have to rn in and out of the grocery store its fine but not for a long period of time, hot or cold, but i dont understand why you guys are getting mad at the fact that she is gettin left in the car alone...im 15 and i stay in the car by my self all the time especially when my mum goes to the boring grocery store, but unlike dogs we can choose to get in and out of the car...
As Kay said, here in Florida we never leave a dog in the car due to the heat factor. Our news people are constantly warning us of the dangers. Dogs can't sweat like humans so their body temperature rises very quickly. They can die in a short time. Heat builds in their bodies because it has no where to go. The dog literally cooks and needless to say, this is completely inhumane and unnecessary. Depending on where you live, the climate may be considerably cooler and the dog would be safer in the car than dogs living here. I personally would be afraid someone would harm the dog when I wasn't there to supervise. Remember, we have some very sick people among us. You never know what might happen. Perhaps Cagney is content to stay in the car rather than being at home but I live with the philosophy that my girls are usually better off in the familiar surroundings of their house. It's climate controlled, comfortable, and most importantly, completely safe. Just my opinion.
I have on numerous occasions left my dogs in the car with the A/C on, windows up and car locked. I always carry a spare key with me in case I have to run in somewhere and I have to leave them in the car. They are not in there for hours so don't think that. I put the sun shade up in the windshield to keep more sun out and my windows are tinted. I would never leave them in a car unlocked with no A/C on, but with the A/C on and the car locked, I see no problem with it. Like I said it's only so I can run a few errands and never for more than 15 minutes. They have never had a problem in there, they are laying in the front seat when I come back curled up.
I was one of those kids that was told to wait in the car a lot. I remember in the summer we were so hot we had to open the doors and sit half outside to get air. Somebody could have easily kidnapped us. I also remember those damn child locks that kept us from getting air. We boiled. And if we stayed in the car in winter we either had to find a blanket, the one that was supposed to stay in the car but was usually in the trunk, or we had to curl up and try not to freeze. I imagine that dogs feel the same way.
Cagneydog mentions that the dog "enjoys" watching people. Maybe he's just seeing if any of those people are his owners trying to get him out of this predicament. And sleeping in the car is enjoyment for a dog? or is it just that he gave up and is trying not to get too hot. I've seen dogs pulled from cars unconscious because of the heat. The owners or people who find the dog have to tap on the windows to see if its sleeping.
Oh yes I was very happy about that.Quote:
Originally posted by Vette
Glad you managed to alreat the owner of the dog before the dog got smooshed in the road. :eek:
Sandy Frost:)
I don't see the big deal either if it is done properly. We lock the doors with the air conditioner going too. I wouldn't do it if I was going shopping for a long period of time, but if its a errand that doesn't take long. I don't see the big deal in it.
I believe that CagneyDog does whats best for her dog. She knows what her dog likes/dislikes. I don't think she would take the dog if she believed it was in any harm at all.
Another time aI saved a dogs life. The owners window was broken so the dog's leash was attached to the stick shift. I see the beagle jump out the window and chokeing. I pushed the dog back in the car. Acouple of months later the owner of the dog comes in the store with his dog. The dog is some animal assit or something like that,well anyway the dog can legally go in stores now. Well anyway he thanked me again and his dog did too. Excuse tears are rooling down my eyes.
Sandy Frost
Personally I don't believe in absolutes on this subject. There are situations where I leave my dogs in the car alone and they are not sweltering in a hot car and are in fact quite happy to be there.
After Maddie died, Murph didn't like being left alone at home. So when I took Oz to agility class, I took Murph too. It was at night and the car was quite comfortable. He wasn't allowed in class, so he had to stay in the car. He'd watch us for about 5 mins, then lay down and snooze the rest of the time. When we got back to the car, he got all of Oz's left over hot dog from class. Before the next class, I said "Murph, you wanna go to agility?" and he went nutz running back and forth to the door, spinning, so excited to go. Hummmm, not really the behavior of a dog that hated going.
I've made many long distance trips in the dead of summer, alone with the dogs. I don't know about y'all, but I can't go 14 hours without going to the bathroom. I bring a spare set of keys, lock the dogs in the car with it running and the a/c going. After I finish pottying, I let them out to walk around too. Near as I can tell, the pit stops are one of their favorite parts of the trip.
My Mom was staying with me for a week and one night she decided she wanted some Ice Cream and wanted me to go to the store for it. I was already dressed for bed, so I didn't want to go that late for Ice Cream. I figured that's something frivilous enough to wait 'til the next day. She was afraid to go at night by herself, but really wanted that Ice Cream. So I said, "Well you can take Oz with ya". She decided that sounded like a really good plan.
I told him, he was going with Mom to the store, so to watch out for her, for me. Normally he'd whine if he was forced to go somewhere without me, but he knew he had a job to do. He trotted along happily after Mom and jumped in the car. She said, he watched her all the way into the store and all the way back to the car. He didn't whine or bark, just watched. She also said there was a couple of men hanging out in the parking lot that she normally would have been quite wary of, but not with Oz on the job. She knew if they laid a hand on her, he'd make enough noise to wake the dead. Ah that Oz, he loves when you give him an important job to do.
So those are few examples. I just don't believe in trying to live life 100% safe, because the reality is, that's an illusion. You leave your dog at home to be safe, so somebody doesn't slip'em a poisoned hot dog and the house burns down with them in it. Just can't predict life, so might as well live it to the fullest.
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I don't know how many times I need to netion that it doesn't get hot here, even in the summer really. I would never do anything to harm him
Just curious those folks that leave the A/C on, doesn't the key have to be in the car? What if the car is stolen with the dog in it?
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As Kay said, here in Florida we never leave a dog in the car due to the heat factor. Our news people are constantly warning us of the dangers. Dogs can't sweat like humans so their body temperature rises very quickly. They can die in a short time. Heat builds in their bodies because it has no where to go. The dog literally cooks and needless to say, this is completely inhumane and unnecessary. Depending on where you live, the climate may be considerably cooler and the dog would be safer in the car than dogs living here. I personally would be afraid someone would harm the dog when I wasn't there to supervise. Remember, we have some very sick people among us. You never know what might happen. Perhaps Cagney is content to stay in the car rather than being at home but I live with the philosophy that my girls are usually better off in the familiar surroundings of their house. It's climate controlled, comfortable, and most importantly, completely safe. Just my opinion.
Fenway gets left in the car with the windows down about 1/4 of the way. He doesn't get left in the car when it's hot out (like, June, July, August and sometimes September). And, I will leave him in the car only if I can see him from where I'm going (may it be the corner store, bank or restaurant). We had a woman who left her Schnauzer in the car and somebody stole the car AND the dog. The dog was found in Mass. safe and sound. She was lucky her dog was found. Fenway stays home on hot days and hangs out by the A/C.
Sandy Frost, I'm so glad that dog was okay. You're a life saver!
I agree, there are really no absolutes on this subject. Cagneydog: I don't know where you live and I'm certainly not a climate expert on different parts of the country. I was just giving the info I know and hear about every day here in Florida. There are many ways to address this issue but most importantly, we all have our pet's best interest at heart at all times. I'm quite sure that you love Cagney very much and you know what's best for him. I don't think anyone is trying to bash you here. Everyone is merely stating their opinion. I can definitely see that different parts of the country would handle this situation in different ways. We're just a diversified group, offering our thoughts in the matter. Please don't let this upset you anymore. I don't like to see anyone upset on this board. We all try to be friends here but there will always be different views on most anything. That's what makes the world interesting:)
Yes, the key has to be in there. I carry a spare key so I can lock the doors and leave the A/C on with them in there. Carrying 2 keys also can save you if you lock your keys in the car. People can steal cars even with the keys not in there so really, key or no key, if someone wants the car bad enough they will take it.Quote:
Originally posted by caseysmom
Just curious those folks that leave the A/C on, doesn't the key have to be in the car? What if the car is stolen with the dog in it?