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Originally posted by DJFyrewolf36
Lizbud, I have to say that I am in agreement with the alternative viewpoint as well. I do know that PETA has an awful lot of GOOD people working for them but they do have some bad people that make everyone associated with them look like nuts.
There are also some bad people in the military, in government,
and many other large groups, but that doesn't mean the group
or organization is no good.
I happen to agree with all your points ...
Kitten
I know Lizbud. However, you have to admit that because the government, military ect. does have its share of bad apples (as all orginizations do) many people think the whole orginization is bad.
I don't think PETA is all bad, in fact I know of a lot of good things they have done. My point was that the reason a lot of people just jump to saying ALL of PETA is bad is because of the few people who are bad and get attention. Letter writers don't make good news unfortuneatly.
I do think they need to get some of thier people under control...and I think they need to re-evaluate some of thier arguements. Perhaps more people would be for their cause if they weren't being so extreme.
I do have friends that are PETA members, so, I guess I could say that not all PETA members are bad, however, their basic philosophy is down right ignorant and their higher ups are raving lunatics.
I am all about animal rights, I wouldn't spend 40+ hours a week on top of going to school and working full time saving animals in shelters all over IN and coordinating transports to get them where they are safe or Mike and I driving almost every weekend to get dogs and cats to safety if I weren't. However, PETA stands in my way. Not only do they themselves kill companion animals, but, the fruit loop members that are out there scaring the bejesus out of little kids and attacking women wearing fur, and vandalizing buildings make those of us who are TRYING to make this country no kill adoptable for companion animals less viable in many Americans' minds.
I'm sorry, but, I find no good in PETA....period. There is nothing peaceful about the organization. Violent, destructive protests are all important to them so that they can draw attention to themselves. Then they spend all the money that unsuspecting animal lovers donate on crap like those protests and nothing goes to the animals and worse yet, those people might have donated money to their local shelter for food, leashes, collars, beds, etc, but instead they donate to a terrorist organizatin...just like those our country is trying to fight.
Wow, I just wanted to say that those two statements are beautiful. I don't think you could have worded it any better. "The celebration of the human and pet bond..." I don't know what to say other than that statement is so beautiful and poetic. :)Quote:
Originally posted by K9soul
To me, I think of an animal lover as someone who dreams of living and working surrounded by and interacting with animals.
... we take joy in here at Pet Talk, the celebration of the human and pet bond....
(Sorry, I have an English major and I'm a writer. I get mushy over words. ;) )
Amber learned why some people don't like PETA, therefore this thread is by no means pointless. I think that PETA does do some good, but, for the most part, I disagree with their goals and their attempts at reaching them.
And, I also agree that Jessica's words were very touching and beautiful. :)
They say they love animals and are all for animals rights and stuff...
but what they really are... is a bunch of jerks wearing a T-shirt that says (I love animals) with a knife in the other hand slautering the animal they are 'supposed' to love help.
all becasue they believe all animals should be out running free.. and cant possibly be happy living with a human. :rolleyes:
Well my Dad owns a fur store here and he inherited from my Grandpa when he was a young man, in his early 20's , anyway, i will once in a while go in to his store to help him when it is busy , he is almost 70 now, and i dont like fur coats and dont wear them, but im there to help my Dad, anyway, the place gets vandalized by Peta a lot of the time, and they stand out front once in a while screaming obscenitys at the customers, and giving rude hand gestures,etc. And my thing is a lot of them are fat , like real fat, so what gives, they have not gotten that fat on veggies LOL i imagine their eating meat, and wearing leather on their shoes,etc. besides, i didnt kill a animal like i said i was their helping my Dad, these people do make me sick, but who makes me sicker are the ones actually killing the animals.
I feel like alot of the people protesting animal killings, fur etc, are proabably eating meat, or going fishing, which is still killing a living breathing thing, or wearing something or using something that was tested on animals. If your not doing any of those thigns then fine go ahead and protest, but taking dogs from sheltersand killing them ???!!! That needs to be protested, from those sick people! What the hell is that proving???
I'm curious to know how many PETA members have cars with leather interiors or have leather wallets or purses? I bet alot of them do. I'm sure there are alot of hypocrites at PETA!
I completely agree with a lot of what you said in your post. But, really, this is not a very nice thing to say at all. People can and do become overweight or obese by eating products other than meat. And, vegetarians don't just eat vegetables. Breads and pastas can be some of the most fattening foods available. And, some people have problems with metabolism or thyroid. And, again, I feel like most of your comment is appropriate and taken directly from your personal experience with PETA. I don't have anything against you or your dad for being involved in the fur business. I just thought the comment about fat people was pretty rude and unfair.Quote:
Originally posted by senorita02
And my thing is a lot of them are fat , like real fat, so what gives, they have not gotten that fat on veggies LOL i imagine their eating meat,
Honestly, most PETA members are vegan, so dairy and eggs are out too. And most members of PETA do not wear leather of any kind or have it in their cars, but, that doesn't mean that the organization is not grossly flawed and hypocritical, because they are. There are some members of PETA that are naive enough to believe that the organization is in it for the animals, but most are just in it to cause trouble and make honest animal rights people look bad.
Talk about hate stored up.Quote:
Originally posted by lizbud
The whole thread is so pointless. Nobody is going to convince
anyone else where the truth lies, but I guess it's good for people
with a lot of hate stored up to vent occasionaly. Keeps them from
blowing up any innocent bystanders. :p
Another viewpoint:
http://all-creation.franciscan-anglican.com/peta.htm
I'd like to apologize if i offended anyone, i didnt mean it to be a crass comment towards overwieght people. Your right it was more of a comment from a personal experience i had, all i was trying to say was Peta can be hypocrytes (sp??) i guess i used a bad example, sorry.
for sure! ;)Quote:
Originally posted by senorita02
all i was trying to say was Peta can be hypocrytes (sp??)