FM- if you read her post, and DDM post, you will note they both display negative thoughts about BF....this was not about 'just seeing too much cleavage'.
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FM- if you read her post, and DDM post, you will note they both display negative thoughts about BF....this was not about 'just seeing too much cleavage'.
Hi Johanna,Quote:
Originally posted by Cataholic
How odd to lump sexually explicit clothing (thongs showing) with BF'ing.
I wasn't trying to lump the two together. I was just saying that cleavage didn't bother me, but if it did, I just look the other way. But then I remembered that lady lifting up her shirt. For a minute I thought she was flashing me in the middle of our conversation because she lifted her shirt before she even picked her child up. I'm not even sure if he was 2... could've been 3. But she was breast feeding him to make him stop fussing. In the middle of an animal shelter, I wasn't really expecting to see someone bare thier whole breasts to me.
I think its natural for women without children to be a bit grossed out by breast feeding. I'm not personally grossed out, as long as it is done discretely. But I think Valerie doesn't have kids so I wouldn't blame her for being a bit weirded out by it. I was more weirded out by her child being so old. Wouldn't it be better to pump the milk to a bottle or cup and not do it in public when the child is older? I saw a show once about women who were breast feeding their 6-10 year olds :o :o :o :o :o That, I was grossed out by.
No offense meant!
Sorry, I didn't read it that way. And, I agree with them, I am fine with women breast feeding in public, I just don't want to see the breasts. It's just personal, to feel one way or the other.Quote:
Originally posted by Cataholic
FM- if you read her post, and DDM post, you will note they both display negative thoughts about BF....this was not about 'just seeing too much cleavage'.
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Originally posted by Cataholic
FM- if you read her post, and DDM post, you will note they both display negative thoughts about BF....this was not about 'just seeing too much cleavage'.
I don't have negative thoughts about breast feeding. I was talking about cleavage in my face :o
I am all for breast feeding if I ever have a little one of my own.
Aly, I will accept your interpretation. If you didn't mean any offense, then, none taken. There is a whole host of reasons why that woman wouldn't just pump and take the milk in the cup. Not everyone pumps. It diminishes your milk supply, maybe she didn't have a way to keep it 'cool'. Maybe she wasn't expecting her child to need to feed at that time, maybe she is opposed to not BFing. Obviously, the list goes on and on, and I could still not be addressing it.
Jonah is a big boy. He is 31 inches long, and he is 9 months old. I plan to BF as long as it is mutually beneficial to the both of us. Maybe that will be 2 years, I don't know. It is the negative comments about how old a child is, or that the woman is trying to be sexual, etc., that is irksome.
When you look at it from a healthful viewpoint, BF is 'better'. Maybe it doesn't work for everyone, for whatever reason, but, if I choose to do what is 'better' for my child, I would want to be supported. I don't strip my clothes. I don't pull up my shirt. In fact, I have invested a decent amount of money in nursing clothes to make things as discreet as possible.
Maybe that woman was just like me, and she didn't think in a that another woman would find it offensive. Maybe she was just struggling to meet the demands of her child, and not disrupt whatever her business was with you. I wouldn't think to stop and ask, "will you allow me to BF my child" anymore than I would ask persmission to give him a bottle.
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Originally posted by finn's mom
Sorry, I didn't read it that way. And, I agree with them, I am fine with women breast feeding in public, I just don't want to see the breasts. It's just personal, to feel one way or the other.
Well, you know, don't you...the breasts are attached to the milk glands that feed the baby. Kinda hard to breastfeed in public without some exposure. While Jonah usually takes to it with no problem, sometimes incidental exposure does happen.
Yes, of course I do know that breasts are needed to breast feed. Just because I don't agree with exposing your breasts in public, doesn't mean I'm an idiot. And, I know enough mothers to know that it isn't that hard to keep your breasts covered. Accidental exposure, fine, and, that's to be expected. That's not what was being discussed, though.Quote:
Originally posted by Cataholic
Well, you know, don't you...the breasts are attached to the milk glands that feed the baby. Kinda hard to breastfeed in public without some exposure. While Jonah usually takes to it with no problem, sometimes incidental exposure does happen.
I wasn't trying to imply she was being sexual. And I'm sorry for my comments regarding the age of the child. It just looked weird to me. Maybe I don't explain myself well sometimes. She really did lift her shirt to her neck before bending over to pick her child up, and she was not wearing a bra. I didn't have any idea she was about to breast feed until she started.Quote:
Originally posted by Cataholic
Aly, I will accept your interpretation. If you didn't mean any offense, then, none taken. There is a whole host of reasons why that woman wouldn't just pump and take the milk in the cup. Not everyone pumps. It diminishes your milk supply, maybe she didn't have a way to keep it 'cool'. Maybe she wasn't expecting her child to need to feed at that time, maybe she is opposed to not BFing. Obviously, the list goes on and on, and I could still not be addressing it.
Jonah is a big boy. He is 31 inches long, and he is 9 months old. I plan to BF as long as it is mutually beneficial to the both of us. Maybe that will be 2 years, I don't know. It is the negative comments about how old a child is, or that the woman is trying to be sexual, etc., that is irksome.
When you look at it from a healthful viewpoint, BF is 'better'. Maybe it doesn't work for everyone, for whatever reason, but, if I choose to do what is 'better' for my child, I would want to be supported. I don't strip my clothes. I don't pull up my shirt. In fact, I have invested a decent amount of money in nursing clothes to make things as discreet as possible.
Maybe that woman was just like me, and she didn't think in a that another woman would find it offensive. Maybe she was just struggling to meet the demands of her child, and not disrupt whatever her business was with you. I wouldn't think to stop and ask, "will you allow me to BF my child" anymore than I would ask persmission to give him a bottle.
I definately did not expect her to ask my permission.
My good friend is a pediatric dietician. She strongly supports breast feeding and has taught me a lot. I have NOTHING against it.
FM-
Double edged swords....get you every time. If you can presume to know what others are thinking/feeling/expressing, and still have 'personal feelings' on the topic, shouldn't I be afforded the same right, too? ;)
As a nursing mom, I can tell you that there are times a whole breast, **gasps**is exposed. It just happens. Sometimes the child is so intent on his surroundings, and checking them out, you have to kind of bring him around again. As I said, it is the woman and their comments that get me everytime.
I went and re-read the comments. Both people expressed a negative thought on BF an older child. Maybe it wasn't Aly's intent, I don't know, but, I read what I read, and commented how I commented. I won't be the first or last to hi-jack a thread, and that isn't my intent. My intent was to ponder how someone finds similarities between an intentional showing of underwear in public with BFing. Be the child 2 days, 2 months or 2 years!
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Originally posted by aly
I wasn't trying to imply she was being sexual. And I'm sorry for my comments regarding the age of the child. It just looked weird to me.
I see that the age weirded you. And, her technique? Well, when you have a squirmer on your hands, you really can't pick the child up first, then set about uncovering your breasts. Not even with a 9 month old. It must be like wrestling a little alligator, that is all I can do to explain it.
I don't go bra-less-, now that would be scary. :o
I never said you didn't have the right. And, I sent you a pm, because I'm a little confused and don't want to continue this in this particular thread. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Cataholic
FM-
Double edged swords....get you every time. If you can presume to know what others are thinking/feeling/expressing, and still have 'personal feelings' on the topic, shouldn't I be afforded the same right, too? ;)
Getting back to thong panties. They make me laugh when I see them exposed. Reminds me of a Kotex belt showing and us girls in the old days would turn red with embarresment if that ever happened.
I had this conversation on another web site. Someone said they were comfortable. I told them hey us old foggies were the first thong wearers and we were not happy campers. I wore Kotex belts most of my life one week a month but it was attached to a wad of cotton between the legs. But then that made it easier to remove the thong from my butt crack. LOL I remember all the times I had to inconspiciously push on the front and the strap would come out in back. Don't know how they do it now. You can't fool me on how comfortable they are. Nothing is new under the sun.:rolleyes: I couldn't wait until I could throw them off when I didn't need them until the NEXT TIME. Yuck.
Also the Kotex belt people are geniuses. The belt went out so they just sewed a little bit of fabric on the front and sold them as thongs.
I can just see the young kids getting older and seeing pics of themselves with everything hanging out. We only have to laugh at our big hair days, they will have to explain to their kids what was hanging out and why. It will be payback time when the kids have dress like mom and dad days at school. LOL
I tell my hubby I never knew what comic relief we were to the older generation until I became the older generation. We are laughing under our breath a lot of times at the young kids. Sometimes it's hard not to laugh out loud or to take pics like those people were doing with that girl. If she could only see herself as others see her. LOL:rolleyes: :D :D :D
Can't speak for anyone else, but, thongs are the most comfortable for me, and, have been ever since I first tried a pair. I can't even tell that I'm wearing some of the ones I have, because they are seriously like a piece of string, doesn't bother me in the slightest. Again, I'd rather have that little piece of string up my butt than half a pair of full bottom undies, and, they always end up riding up my butt. :)Quote:
Originally posted by janelle
You can't fool me on how comfortable they are. Nothing is new under the sun.:rolleyes:
Then why even wear anything? You would save the money.
Butt floss is not my idea of comfort. :confused:
Ok. So, it's alright to expose your breasts in public as long as it's benefiting a baby? So, why do people get all bent out of shape if one is exposed and it's not breastfeeding? That's a big double standard. Also, for the record, I was referring to the child being so old AND in a very public place. There are discret ways to do this and obviously this woman wasn't civilized enough to use them. This is the dog house and there are going to be differences of opinion. I'm really sorry it upset some of you so terribly.