I am sorry this happened. :( have you tried crating and rotating them at all? fights can be scary. :( have you done NILIF too? you have to make sure you are the alpha at all times and not them. I know how fusturating this can be. :(
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I am sorry this happened. :( have you tried crating and rotating them at all? fights can be scary. :( have you done NILIF too? you have to make sure you are the alpha at all times and not them. I know how fusturating this can be. :(
Even if you are home with them, I'd use soft muzzles when they are together at any time, even on leash.
Aren't females great!? I always hear people say they don't want two males, and I'm always confused by it. Females are the fighters. Heck, my female rats would kill each other if they ever got in a big scuffle. My males; rarely the tiniest puncture in a male scuffle. Females of all species are much worse together.
Aint that the truth!Personally i have always liked Males,Hubby likes the the females,Im lucky i got Storm lol.Out of them all he is the most laid back....The others are great dogs,But everyone likes what they like...Quote:
Originally Posted by IRescue452
I don't have any advise, just wanted to say that I think it is great that you are working with both the girls on the problem, so many people would re-home a dog rather then tackle the problem.
Good luck.
I would never do that,There both here to stay i adore and love them both,This is not easy by anymeans,Im sure this is going to be a up and down process,I dont ever want to go through that again,Poor Lacy is really banged up.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackie
She was weighed,And she is 54 pounds i find since she has been spayed she is really puttin on the pounds.
I'm sorry to hear this. I hope both Maggy and Lacy will be feeling better soon. Are you still going to get the other newfie?
To be honest,I Dont know i'm a little scared.Im not ready for that now,I dont want thousands of dollars of vet bills!She is a female also,We were offered to take a male if we wanted.The pup is just over 2 weeks,Even though we put a down payment,I know if we decide against it the pup will find a loving home.Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf_Q
KrazyaboutKats---- you don't have to give up on owning two females or two males together in the same house. I've had males together and females together without a problem...right now I have 3 females and one male and still have no problem. It all depends on how you treat the dogs and how you train them from the very beginning. It's something that you have to be very vigilant about and notice every little change in body language, and there will be telltale signs long before a fight breaks out, this is the time to make detours so that the fight never materializes. One of my females isn't spayed and it still causes no problem. Don't rely on spaying or neutering to avoid confrontations, it doesn't work that way. Some people have their males altered to make them less agressive and that doesn't work either as they soon find out. If you would like both female and male go for it, just do the homework beforehand.
I really do disagree....You cannot prevent two females from fighting,On how you treat them and train.All my dogs have been in training when you have two head strong dogs...there is nothing you can do about that.Lacy and Molly are fine today they have been licking eachother through the gate.
There is no sign...They took one look at eachother and went at it,How are you supposed to take that,Dogs look at eachother all the time.
And females that have not been spayed can sometimes be worse,with all the hormones running through them,I can honestly say Lacy is not half as bad then she was before i had her spayed.
All dogs are different....And i truly believe that temperments do change after being spayed or neuterd,I have seen it with my own dogs.
Well I'm not looking to adopt any dogs any time soon because I already have 6 cats. I don't know much about dogs and I always thought that males were much more aggressive than females so this thread was kind of shocking to me but also informative.Quote:
Originally Posted by shepgirl
I know with cats that the females are much more territorial than the males and if you have a lot of femles then you can also have a lot of behavioral problems. This is one reason I'll only have 2 females at a time and luckily both of my females have very different personalities so there shouldn't be any problems between them.:)
I also always thought that spaying and neutering animals would make them less aggressive especially the males.:confused:
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Originally Posted by krazyaboutkatz
Male dogs fight for dominance usually and for the most part, they quit when the other dog gives up--speaking of a one on one battle, a pack fight is a whole different thing. Males will look and sound like they are killing each other, but often do no actual physical damage. Most often they go back to being buddies once the "who's the boss" issue is resolved. I've only ever had one male I couldn't reintegrate into the main pack after a fight and that was a pack fight, not a dominance issue.
Females start to fight for any number of reasons, but they fight differently than males once they start. They fully intend to hurt each other and will not stop, even when the other dog is unable or unwilling to fight back anymore. The worst fight I've ever broken up was two female malamute mixes, littermates. If Stuart hadn't been home to help me, I have no doubt that Kayleigh would be dead. I've broken up 15 dog pack fights alone, but I could not seperate those two females. Females hold grudges. They tend not to go back to being buddies once they've had a battle. They tend to look for the next opportunity to try again!
I have 8 females in my pack. Only the seniors are ever left in the same area when no one is home to supervise them.
Altering an animal does not change the basics of their personality. It has many benefits and may calm things down. I couldn't keep unaltered dogs in the pack setting my dogs live in. It would be chaos all the time. A dominant male will still be dominant after the big snip. A female who doesn't like other females will feel the same way after she's spayed.
Interesting about the cats. I'd never heard that about groups of female cats and I dont' find that here. 5 of my 9 are females. My only one with territorial issues is a male! Course it is one of the girls that sets him off most!
I've never owned cats so what you described really surprised me...I always thought cats slept all day and were too independent to look at each other. I know lots about dogs, maybe I should learn about cats too....believe it or not, cats scare me and I have no clue why....lol.
there can be many ways to stop this in an easy way or even a difficult way but it's worth the risk. if you see your dogs are about to fight, walk up to them (don't run) and use in a loud and firm voice a commanding, "NO!" trust me, your dogs will pay more attention to you more than the battle that will about to start. another way you can keep your dogs from fighting is keep the more rough dog in a crate and leave your other dogs in an area that they cannot see the new puppy. only leave them alone when YOU, THE MASTER IS AROUND! otherwise, they will definitely want to fight each other when their owner is not around.
I'm so sorry you're going through this. :(
From my own past experience I know that owning 2 females can be quite challenging.
I hope you are able to help your girls.
I hope Lacy heals up quickly too!
Thank you,Lacy is doing alot better she is not laying around like she was.Quote:
Originally Posted by pitc9
I have to keep the wounds open,Which has been very hard.
She is on strong antibiotics for 10 days,Then they would like to see her back to see how she is healing.