Woody's in PA!! See Karen's new thread

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Originally Posted by jenn_librarian

Ok, I called that American Eagle place, it's actually American Airlines.
They can fly him from Wichita Falls, TX to Harrisburg, PA for $191.72
That is using a small crate/carrier.
I have to check with Leslie whether she has one or
they'd need to purchase one from the airlines.

Leslie, the number to call for info is 800-777-6931.
There are a bunch of recordings they have you listen to, but it's helpful.

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For detailed information - go to the American Airlines CARGO website that deals with Live Animals >>>
https://www.aacargo.com/shipping/animals.jhtml

Note: There are differing rules & regulations IF the animal will be traveling WITH a human passenger
on the same aircraft - If Woody is flying SOLO - he'll be carried in the cargo hold as a >>>
"Priority Parcel Service" (PPS) https://www.aacargo.com/images/products/pps_sm.gif (Air CARGO)Priority Parcel Service is the preferred method for shipping, if the combined weight of your animal and kennel is less than 70 lbs., and is available within the United States. This type of Air CARGO shipment is normally handled by the Air CARGO group - but at smaller airports like Wichita Falls, TX - there IS NO Air CARGO terminal operated by AA or American Eagle - ALL Arrangements for Woody's flight will be handled by the regular PASSENGER Agents inside the terminal.

And there are NO "advance reservations" allowed - it's first come / first served with only
ONE animal kennel permitted on the small "comuter style" aircraft flying out of Wichita Falls, TX.
And they do NOT sell approved kennels at the ticket counter - his "Approved Kennel" will
have to be purchased at a PetsMart or similar pet store.

Please read the ENTIRE web site referenced above - there are a LOT of
"little details" that have to be followed or he'll be *rejected*.

1)
PRIORITY PARCEL SERVICE/PPS at Wichita Falls, TX:

PPS DROP OFF: FOR SHIPPERS KNOWN TO AA
LOCATION: AA TICKET COUNTER
HOURS: 530AM-7PM DAILY
FOR OTHER SHIPPERS SPECIAL ARRANGEMENTS CAN BE MADE WHEN SHIPPING LIVE ANIMALS OR LIFE SAVING MEDICAL SHIPMENTS.
Contact an Air Cargo Agent @ 1-800-777-6931
Location of Terminal:
AMERICAN AIRLINES PRIORITY PARCEL SYSTEM
WICHITA FALLS MUNICIPAL AIRPORT
ROUTE 4, BOX 6
ARMSTRONG ROAD
WICHITA FALLS, TX 76306


2) The Shipper (Leslie) will need a Photo ID - see >>>
https://www.aacargo.com/downloads/ss...FLMYCSOATXCFEY

3) Basic Documents required for Dogs:

• The original and 1 copy of a health certificate signed by a licensed veterinarian stating that the animal is healthy enough to travel by air and is free of injury and disease. The certificate must be dated 10 days or less from the date your animal will be shipped.
• A rabies vaccination certificate issued and signed by a licensed veterinarian.
  OR
• A combination health and rabies certificate, with details as mentioned above.

4) Temperature Requirements and Restrictions

Warm-blooded Animals and Birds
For the health and safety of your animal, American Airlines follows the USDA guidelines for shipping animals during periods of extreme temperatures. The optimum temperature range for transporting most warm-blooded animals, including birds, is between 45 and 85 degrees Fahrenheit at the origin, destination and connecting cities. Warm-blooded animals will not be accepted for transport if the actual or forecasted temperature exceeds 85 degrees Fahrenheit at any city on the routing. (See exceptions below.)

Shipping Warm-blooded Animals in Temperatures Below 45 Degrees Fahrenheit
For all animals, if the temperature is, or is forecasted to be, under 45 degrees at any city on the animal's routing, a Certificate of Acclimation is required in order for your animal to travel. This certificate must be issued and signed by a licensed veterinarian and dated within 10 days of the shipping date. It must include the shipper's name and address, type of animal and to what temperature below 45 degrees the animal can withstand (but not lower than 20 degrees). Your animal may be accepted as long as the forecasted temperature is not below 20 degrees Fahrenheit, or the temperature noted on the certificate, whichever is more restrictive.

A certificate of acclimation with no specific temperature stated on the document (i.e. animal's thermoneutral temperature zone) is invalid and will cause your animal shipment to be refused by American Airlines.

**Note: It's WINTER time! Harrisburg is quite likely to have temps below 45* F - so Woody needs a note from the Vet saying how low he can go ---
This is in case he gets delayed in loading or unloading - he might be sitting in a baggage transporter out on the runway. http://petoftheday.com/i/our_smilies/eek.gif It's not "supposed" to happen, but it might.

5) Kennel Guidelines
Read this section of the website very carefully!
There are a LOT of "little details"
* door secured with ties - need holes in all four corners of the doorway
* Food & Water dishes secured inside the kennel - even if he's NOT to be fed enroute.
* Food on top - even if he's not to be fed ("Emergency Rations")
* Labels & Tags
* Vet's Order not to feed him enroute ...
** He will NOT be allowed out of the kennel for a potty break - unless he gets stranded (and then he'll be sent to a boarding facility).
He'll be a lot more comfortable eating & pottying 4 hours before the trip starts, then just Fasting till he gets there. If you allow them to water him at Dallas - it will be a long wait to pee in Harrisburg! Best he fly "dry".

6) Collar & Tags ...
He should wear a good, well-fitted collar that he CAN'T wiggle out of - and
be fitted with his rabies tag and an ID Tag with both Texas and PA phone numbers. (Just in case ...)

Safe Trip, Woody!

/s/ Phred

Although I'm sad to see him go, and a little nervous about sending him on an airplane all by himself, I know it'll all end well for my little friend. He's just so precious. I got teary-eyed reading about the details of his trip on an airplane :) He's really, really a special little boy and I'm so glad that he's going to a good home.

Tomorrow when Quinn's napping (easiest time for me) I'll give that number a call. Thank you everyone for pitching in to help Woody get to Jennie! You're all wonderful!

Phred - Woody will be traveling by himself. I think it's easier that way. The flights on expedia went to Dallas, and I'd need to rent a car from there to get to Leslie's. American Airlines/American Eagle will fly directly out of Wichita Falls and to Harrisburg (which is about 1hr from me).

So many things to plan and do! I was just to the doctor tonight for my laryngitis and upper respiratory, so was waiting there, then the pharmacy, then came home to mop my kitchen floor and do more cleaning. Head is pounding, so will wait till kitchen floor is dry, grab some excederin and then will be back to check on more info.

It would probably be easiest for Leslie to get the paypal donations since Woody will be coming from that end. Lord knows their transfers take time when you send them anyway, so less fussing around will be best.

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Originally Posted by pitc9

I don't know who would have to actually purchase the ticket;
I would assume it would be Leslie because he's being flown by Leslie.

We'll have to find out if Leslie has a PayPal account and/or
if she'd be willing to use it to have donations sent to her for his ticket.

I spoke to Leslie via pm yesterday and she spoke about "his crate",
so I think it's safe to say she already has one for him.

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1) Yes, Leslie is the one who purchases his ticket just before he gets handed off to board the plane.

2) Leslie ~ Do you have a PayPal account to use to collect donations?

3) Leslie ~ did you read the Kennel/Crate section of the web site?
Is "his crate" airline approved and big enough for him and two bowls?

4) When you're choosing his flight - pay close attention to the routing and number of
intermediate stops - there is NO "direct/non-stop" flight from Wichita Falls to Harrisburg -
the quickest route is a one-stop that has two segments and requires one plane change.
It leaves SPS - Wichita Falls/Sheppard AFB @ 1:43 pm and hops over to DFW - Dallas/FtWorth.
Then a THREE Hour layover at DFW; jump on a larger commuter jet -
and then a driect/non-stop hop up to Harrisburg, PA. Take-off @ 5:25 pm Texas time with
arrival at Harrisburg @ 9:15 pm Eastern time.

(There are other routes that have additional stops & plane changes in New Orleans and
Chicago/O'Hare - and take over 12 hours. :eek: )

/s/ Phred

If it's any quicker to fly him to Philadelphia, PA, that's actually better. The woman on the phone didn't tell me Philly was available. Wonder if there is less of a lay over??? Where did you figure all that out, Phred??

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Originally Posted by jenn_librarian

If it's any quicker to fly him to Philadelphia, PA, that's actually better.
The woman on the phone didn't tell me Philly was available.
Wonder if there is less of a lay over???

Where did you figure all that out, Phred??

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Philly vrs. Harrisburg isn't much different in a Jet.

WHERE did I figure it out?
On the AA Cargo web site I referenced in the how-to post >>>

https://www.aacargo.com/shipping/schedules.jhtml is a direct link to the Schedules page.
Or from the www.aacargo.com AA Cargo home page, click on the top "Schedules" button.

Once on the Schedules page - scroll down a couple inches to the center section titled
"Priority Parcel Service Flight Schedules" ...
Choose the Starting and Destination city airports from the drop-down lists,
a starting time, am/pm, and tell it to give you 12 flights per page.

You'll get a chart showing each leg of the flight between your chosen cities,
with departure and arrival times. You can calculate layover times.

You should pick a flight pair the allows 1.5 to 2 hours MINIMUM layover to give
the baggage handlers plenty of time to get him moved to his second airplane.
Some of the flight pairs call for less than an hour layover between flights ...
that's too tight a schedule to allow for any delays.

NOTE: "The woman on the phone didn't tell me Philly was available."
Don't depend on the Agent to make suggestions ... you ASK and they'll answer;
only a few will offer helpful suggestions.

/s/ Phred

Well if he is flying into Harrisburg we can help with the transport from there to Allentown or meet halfway or whatever....

Just let us know. We are in Lancaster, PA

Repeating an important Question:

Leslie ~

Do you have a PayPal account to use to collect donations for Woody's Airplane Ticket?

We'll need to know your E-mail address to send money via PayPal.

bounce

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Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke

Repeating an important Question:

Leslie ~

Do you have a PayPal account to use to collect donations for Woody's Airplane Ticket?

We'll need to know your E-mail address to send money via PayPal.

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Yes, my husband does, he said his email address for PayPal is [email protected]

We also have a kennel for Woody. It's kind of big, but we don't have anything smaller I don't think. It's a Sky Kennel, I would imagine it would be fine for airplane travel. I'm sorry I haven't responded sooner. It's really hard sometimes to get computer time.

Jennie has my phone numbers, as does Angie (Pitc9). If you need anything please don't hesitate to call.

-Leslie

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Originally Posted by AdoreMyDogs

We also have a kennel for Woody.
It's kind of big, but we don't have anything smaller, I don't think.
It's a Sky Kennel, I would imagine it would be fine for airplane travel.

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:confused: How BIG is "kinda big"?
There may be an upper limit to the size of kennel that will be allowed on the
small commuter jet that flies out of Wichita Falls airport.

Look at THIS web page - it shows all the Sky Kennels and gives their "Airline Size" (100, 200, 400 etc)
and their size in inches. http://www.skykennelsupply.com/skyke...edchart-en.htm
Grab your ruler and measure the length, width, and height of your kennel and compare your measurements to the listed sizes.
What SIZE kennel do you have ??

We'll need to check with AA CARGO to be sure YOUR kennel is allowed on the
Jets Woody will be flying on.
Has your kennel got attachable water and food cups?
Has it got all the required stickers and labels?
And he'll need a soft, absorbant pad to cover the floor with - soft to lay on
and yet able to soak up a pee accident if it happens.

Again - I suggest you read the info on the www.AACARGO.com web site -
that written info is more accurate than the info you'll get from the average Customer Service Rep at the 1-800 number.

* Go to www.AACARGO.com
* Click on the "Shipping your Pet / Shipping & Document Requiremnts" link >>
https://www.aacargo.com/shipping/animals.jhtml
* Click on "Kennel Guidelines"

Do "we" have a proposed "Fly Date" for Woody?
Remember he'll need a Visit to the Vet to collect his documentation
(see previous posts) and get all his shots.

And don't forget to watch the weather forecasts for the "low temps"
at Wichita Falls, Dallas, and Harrisburg or Philly.

Has Woody been "practicing" in his kennel?

/s/ Phred

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Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke

:confused: How BIG is "kinda big"?
There may be an upper limit to the size of kennel that will be allowed on the
small commuter jet that flies out of Wichita Falls airport.

Look at THIS web page - it shows all the Sky Kennels and gives their "Airline Size" (100, 200, 400 etc)
and their size in inches. http://www.skykennelsupply.com/skyke...edchart-en.htm
Grab your ruler and measure the length, width, and height of your kennel and compare your measurements to the listed sizes.
What SIZE kennel do you have ??

We'll need to check with AA CARGO to be sure YOUR kennel is allowed on the
Jets Woody will be flying on.
Has your kennel got attachable water and food cups?
Has it got all the required stickers and labels?
And he'll need a soft, absorbant pad to cover the floor with - soft to lay on
and yet able to soak up a pee accident if it happens.

Again - I suggest you read the info on the www.AACARGO.com web site -
that written info is more accurate than the info you'll get from the average Customer Service Rep at the 1-800 number.

* Go to www.AACARGO.com
* Click on the "Shipping your Pet / Shipping & Document Requiremnts" link >>
https://www.aacargo.com/shipping/animals.jhtml
* Click on "Kennel Guidelines"

Do "we" have a proposed "Fly Date" for Woody?
Remember he'll need a Visit to the Vet to collect his documentation
(see previous posts) and get all his shots.

And don't forget to watch the weather forecasts for the "low temps"
at Wichita Falls, Dallas, and Harrisburg or Philly.

Has Woody been "practicing" in his kennel?

/s/ Phred

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Woody is fully crate trained. He's wonderful in his crate, that won't be an issue. The crate isn't a "Sky Kennel" as I previously thought, it's a Veri Kennel, which is very similar to the Sky Kennel. The size he's in is closest to the model #200, with only an inch difference.

I will have to get Woody to the vet for a health certificate, he doesn't have one. I will have to wait til pay day until I take him to the vet though unfortunately. We are totally broke until pay day (hubby gets paid this Friday).

Off to bed now...will find out more tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke

* Go to www.AACARGO.com
* Click on the "Shipping your Pet / Shipping & Document Requiremnts" link >>
https://www.aacargo.com/shipping/animals.jhtml
* Click on "Kennel Guidelines"

Do "we" have a proposed "Fly Date" for Woody?
Remember he'll need a Visit to the Vet to collect his documentation
(see previous posts) and get all his shots.

And don't forget to watch the weather forecasts for the "low temps"
at Wichita Falls, Dallas, and Harrisburg or Philly.

Has Woody been "practicing" in his kennel?

/s/ Phred

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Just checked that website again, and the kennel meets all the specifications, with the exception of the dishes that attach, which we can get, and the "LIVE ANIMAL" stickers, which also we can also get.

I sent a donation via paypal.... use it for the health certificate at the vet, or whatever, ok?? Give my pupper some big kissies for me!!

Should I stock up on Revolution or Frontline before he gets here?? We're not in flea season here, but not sure how the weather is down there.

:confused:

There are a few Important Questions regarding Woody's *Flight Home* that
continue to go unanswered ...

1) Has a Date been decided upon for Woody's Flight?
** Must consider & complete items:
* He needs the Vet Visit for Shots and a Physical
* His kennel has to be made flight-ready - Bowls, Labels, a Pad, Food Pouch, Vet's Orders
* WHO is going to send him off and pick him up ???

2) WHERE is he going = Harrisburg or Philadelphia ??? Jenn ?????
* Cost, delay and flight times are almost the same for either destination;
. . . pick one destination based upon ease of picking him up.

3) When will sufficient Funds be collected?
* Leslie should have at least two donations by now ...
* Please Post the Number of dontions received and the total received as
. . . often as you can

4) Has Woody ever had any Puppy Shots, yet?
* He souldn't fly till after he's had at least the initial set of Puppy Shots
* Ask the Vet about giving a Rabies shot - IF the Vet says he's too young;
. . . you'll need a Signed Vet's Statement to that effect to send with Woody

Fly High, Woody!