This is the last time.. Bye Baby:(

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I agree with getting Baby checked out to rule out this being a medical problem.

Otherwise, and i really do not mean to sound insensitive, but I've kept quiet long enough. It sickens me and angers me to no end that someone would even consider rehoming this aggressive of a dog!!! What if you were out walking Tikeya and it was some strange dog that did that to her? How would you feel about this other dog running loose and attacking her.

Please reconsider rehoming her and do what is best for everyone. If this turns out to me a medical issue, fine I can see rehoming her. If all the test results come back normal, then i BEG you to PLEASE have Baby put down. Unless this is mediacal, i really don't see any chance of Baby being rehabilitated. Especially since you said that her brothers are dog aggressive too.

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There is absolutly no way in hell We would EVER put Baby down because she is female dog agressive. That is the most rediculas thing I have ever heard. You dont know her, she is the SWEETEST, most passive Dane towards humans. She would NEVER hurt a human, she has only ever shown signs of being aggressive towards other female dogs.. I know plenty of people who have one dog, who is dog aggressive, and they are living just as well. I will make sure that her next owners are FULLY aware that she is dog aggressive, and if she ever gets out (she would probably just come back to my house). Im just discusted that you would even bring up euthinisation as an option.. We would NEVER consider it.

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This is a big dog that most people would not be able to physically restrain if she were to go after another dog or person. And yes, I added person on purpose. If there is "something wrong with the aggression center of her brain" you cannot guarantee that she won't show the same aggression toward humans. No if there is no identifiable physical/chemical reason for this behavior that can be remedied, I see a very bleak future for Baby.

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, We took Baby to the vet, and she only weighs 101lbs, I can hold her back (not to mention she is FULLY leash trained, she NEVER pulls, even if there is another dog walking by. We just couldnt get her jaws off of Tikeya. She wouldnt attack a person. If you ever met her you would know that isnt somthing that would enter her mind ATALL. I see a very happy and fullfilled future for Baby, but maybe its because I love her, and only want whats best for her. and I will not send her away to "just anyone" she has to goto somone we know, that understands her problems.

I don't know if this will help you or not but, I've been reading this thread and it made me think of something that happened to my Dad once. He used to have a Doberman/Southern Coon mix. He was a great dog, big dopey and friendly. And then when he was somewhere between 1 and 2 years old he started getting aggressive for no apparent reason. My Dad took him to the vet and they told him that it had something to do with the growth of his brain and it was causing pressure on his skull. I think they gave him medication but I don't remember. My Dad ended up having him put down because the dog got aggressive with him too.

Wow.. I cant imagine having to go through this... Eli and Zeke get into it every once in a while.. and we pull Z off and E usually has a puncture mark or two.. but if they turn on one of us.. thats just a hard decision.

And the whole 'putting down' an aggressive dog... shoot. Bunny is aggressive. Towards other dogs, and when introduced right, she is perfectly fine with them. I wouldn't dream of putting her down just because of that. We have no idea what her past life was like... We rescued her when she was 1 1/2 yrs. Im sure you guys just got bit because she was so honed in on Tikeya.. Same thing happened to me at the dog park.. with a friend's dog and me.

Id definitely find a family willing to dedicate time to Baby and maybe even work with an animal behaviorist? I'm sure you can find a home for her where they are willing to only have her, and no other dogs. Plenty of people only want one dog. And she's beautiful and otherwise sounds like a very adoptable dog.. She just needs to be the only fur-child. Simple as that.

I feel for you though.. really. I cant imagine how hard it must be to know that you have to give up Baby. Such a hard thing to do.. But you know its for the best!

I thought giving her away would have been the hardest thing..

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Otherwise, and i really do not mean to sound insensitive, but I've kept quiet long enough. It sickens me and angers me to no end that someone would even consider rehoming this aggressive of a dog!!! What if you were out walking Tikeya and it was some strange dog that did that to her? How would you feel about this other dog running loose and attacking her.

Please reconsider rehoming her and do what is best for everyone. If this turns out to me a medical issue, fine I can see rehoming her. If all the test results come back normal, then i BEG you to PLEASE have Baby put down. Unless this is mediacal, i really don't see any chance of Baby being rehabilitated. Especially since you said that her brothers are dog aggressive too.

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:eek: I can't belive your serious! My dog is dog agressive with other big dogs and she has been all her life she is now 13. It's called being a responsible pet owner and muzzling your dog when it gose out and keeping it on a leash. What about all the rescue dogs that are dog agressive but people friendly? They should all be killed?
That I find is rediculous that you would say that..
A dog shouldn't be put down just cause it's DOG agressive, it's not that hard to avoid other dogs. I pray you never get a dog that is dog agressive.

I really hope Baby gose to a good home. And I'm glad you aren't taking that persons advice.:rolleyes:

She probably won't get a new home, check the health thread, gas gangrene infection =(

I think, in your empathizing with both the humans and pets suffering in this thread, everyone has overlooked one fundamental issue. That issue is the FACT that the animal in question is not obedience trained to 'release!' or 'let go!' or "drop it!' on command. No one would've been bitten, except the first attacked dog, if the dog had been obedience trained properly.

To give such an aggressive animal to a 'one dog home' does a disservice to both the new owner and the dog. Get him obedience trained...NOW! If he cannot be trained and remains hostile and aggressive, then for gosh sakes, don't foist this pitiful creature off on someone else. Put him out of his misery...suffer once for having to do the deed, and be done with it.

If you think an overly aggressive animal is happy, think again...they're living in fear and hatred. Even if they've never been human aggressive (yet), a child seeing animals fighting, and perhaps killing, one another can traumatize the child for life. Get real, folks.

We all know that animals escape even the best of confines if they're determined enough. To keep a potentially dangerous animal without doing all possible to disarm the dangers, is irresponsible. No, giving him to someone else, even one with no other dogs, doesn't cut it.

Sorry, folks, I just couldn't let this go on. I love all animals and I believe in giving the best possible care but, when it comes to danger to others (even other people's pets) I don't believe it's love of the animal to allow it to live and possibly breed and pass on those characteristics. One down and how many others to live joyously and unafraid as the decent companions they should be and usually are?

With much sympathy for your plight and prayers that it will not continue and even escalate, as is often the case.

Callie

Have you considered aggression pills?

Well said Callie! To rehome a dog aggressive dog is to avoid one's own responsibility!

I'm sorry, but this is not a "training issue." This is inherited aggression. It was not allowed to develop -- it just came out of nowhere, and no amount of "obedience training" will turn most high drive dogs away from it's prey. Talk to owners on PT who have had dogs kill their cats, including myself -- and some who have had their own dogs kill their own cats. It was never an obedience issue. Telling a dog to "let go" of it's prey when it's adrenaline is pumping so fast it can not hear or think or see or smell or feel anything will not have any affect. I own high drive dogs, I have trained high drive dogs. I have dealt with working sharpness that will leave you bitten and bruised. Add aggression into the mix and you have a recipe for disaster that no amount of training will control entirely. This does not mean the dog should die. It just means it should not be allowed into certain situations. Hence why Baby is now wearing a muzzle 24/7. You can not always train out a behaviour but there are other ways to avoid dangerous behaviours without unnessecarily putting the dog to sleep. Just as I have friends who avoid having their dogs with cats, with men, with children, etc etc etc.

I am not trying to start anything, but how is keeping a dog in a muzzle 24/7, good for the dog??? Seems pretty cruel to me. I definitely think placing the dog, in a home without any other dogs, is a heck of a lot better, than it being in a muzzle 24/7. As long as the new owner is fully aware of the dogs behavior issues, and is willing to fully take on the Responsibilities. I would not enjoy seeing my dog in a muzzle. It would just kill me.

This thread is out of date, Callie. If you read the "gas gangrene" thread, you'll see that, after nearly losing Baby because of her illness, they realized they'd miss her too much, and loved her too much to let her go. When Jynelle and her dog's move out pretty soon, Baby will be stayingwhewre she is with Jynelle's parents, thereby removing the conflict between she and Tikeya.

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Originally Posted by Callie

I think, in your empathizing with both the humans and pets suffering in this thread, everyone has overlooked one fundamental issue. That issue is the FACT that the animal in question is not obedience trained to 'release!' or 'let go!' or "drop it!' on command. No one would've been bitten, except the first attacked dog, if the dog had been obedience trained properly.

To give such an aggressive animal to a 'one dog home' does a disservice to both the new owner and the dog. Get him obedience trained...NOW! If he cannot be trained and remains hostile and aggressive, then for gosh sakes, don't foist this pitiful creature off on someone else. Put him out of his misery...suffer once for having to do the deed, and be done with it.

If you think an overly aggressive animal is happy, think again...they're living in fear and hatred. Even if they've never been human aggressive (yet), a child seeing animals fighting, and perhaps killing, one another can traumatize the child for life. Get real, folks.

We all know that animals escape even the best of confines if they're determined enough. To keep a potentially dangerous animal without doing all possible to disarm the dangers, is irresponsible. No, giving him to someone else, even one with no other dogs, doesn't cut it.

Sorry, folks, I just couldn't let this go on. I love all animals and I believe in giving the best possible care but, when it comes to danger to others (even other people's pets) I don't believe it's love of the animal to allow it to live and possibly breed and pass on those characteristics. One down and how many others to live joyously and unafraid as the decent companions they should be and usually are?

With much sympathy for your plight and prayers that it will not continue and even escalate, as is often the case.

Callie

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Wow .....................have you read this thread? and sorry but if I went by that creed , then my own Rusty would be dead now. he is child agressive, dominant and untrainable...........................

I may want to tell the 10 yr old he sleeps with, and the agility class he goes too, and I should mention it to the people he licks to death that visit.

He was found to be Hypothyroid and also a secondary infection to a tooth issue at 9 months when he came here as PTS. Along with the fact that he is Von Willebrands +

not all aggressive animals are truly aggressive, Rusty still won't and will probaly never handle another male neutered or not. He is amazing with "sisters" and cats and guinea Pigs and birds and rats and anything else I show him. He however has issues with other males.

And he will never deal with any male being friends with Mom. Although he will drop on command and release also. He has achieved his CC . So no I cannot and won't accept that it is an issue. All animals are worth redemption. Even those that seem beyond it, it just takes a few more humans to make it right.

Just my thoughts

kym

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I am not trying to start anything, but how is keeping a dog in a muzzle 24/7, good for the dog??? Seems pretty cruel to me. I definitely think placing the dog, in a home without any other dogs, is a heck of a lot better, than it being in a muzzle 24/7. As long as the new owner is fully aware of the dogs behavior issues, and is willing to fully take on the Responsibilities. I would not enjoy seeing my dog in a muzzle. It would just kill me.

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The muzzle still allows Baby to pant, drink, and basically go about her normal life. She can even take food and treats from your hand. She is just not able to open her mouth wide to bite. There is nothing cruel about it -- she is still able to do everything normally -- it would be more cruel to the other dogs to leave it off. She acts happy and normal.