Speaking of illegal immigrants...

my faather was an illegal alien once.


He got his green card and then became an American citizen.

He came home from the ceremony with that little American flag that they give you when they swear you in .

You would have thought he won the lottery- a gazilllion bucks as the prize.

And all it was was a piece of paper saying that he was an American citizen.

For every chump that breaks the law, there is one person that made it through the system after breaking the law.

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I am sorry....
The only time it becomes news is when a cop or the dog catcher gets a cap busted at them.

Two kids in El Lay were shotk by a jerk who had been sent back to Mexico -
only to come back, illegally.....

If the Government starts to look at credentials closely, what crimes will the media report?

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Flying lessons anyone?

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

If the Government starts to look at credentials closely, what crimes will the media report?

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Flying lessons anyone?

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Have you noticed the media often mentions someone's religion, race, or legal status when they are : (a) trying to make fun of someone's religion, race, or legal status or (b) trying to sway people to their way of thinking about someone's religion, race, or legal status, or (c) trying to stir people up and cause trouble about someone's religion, race, or legal status.

Just my observation!!! I'm sure there are some who will disagree. That's ok! They are entitled to their opinions too.

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Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces

trying to stir people up and cause trouble about someone's religion, race, or legal status.

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That guy on the FBI list with the multiple wives has me running scared.

Sometimes Mormons freak me out! :confused:

ESPN is currently promoting the Little League World Series.

Teams from all over the planet come to the US to play baseball.

the commercial I saw has a van load of kids singing "take me out to the ball game" in spanish. The kids representing the team from Mexico.

I thought about the car being chased by the Border Patrol that flipped and killed 9 out the 21 people on board.

I am waiting for the cries of racial insensitivity. :rolleyes:

You guys are amazing me! Are you really serious?!?!?! A nation of IMMIGRANTS is calling a poor Nicaraguan worker (who was not killing people on the streets, but WORKING) a criminal. I would think a little more before I would even think that for myself, let alone type it on a public website.

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED! He was wrongfully sent to jail for something he didn't do and if he were anyone else you would have shouted loud from the same hill against the injustice done.

Aren't you, Americans, the ones who are so proud of their legal system? So, justice is just for some?

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Originally Posted by Vio&Juni

You guys are amazing me! Are you really serious?!?!?! A nation of IMMIGRANTS is calling a poor Nicaraguan worker (who was not killing people on the streets, but WORKING) a criminal. I would think a little more before I would even think that for myself, let alone type it on a public website.

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED! He was wrongfully sent to jail for something he didn't do and if he were anyone else you would have shouted loud from the same hill against the injustice done.

Aren't you, Americans, the ones who are so proud of their legal system? So, justice is just for some?

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BRAVO.

Some of us ARE ashamed V&J, of this action.. not necessarily the system as a whole. That's why we are posting, and "venting". We are still allowed to have different opinions, and the opportunity to change some of it when we vote.

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

That guy on the FBI list with the multiple wives has me running scared.

Sometimes Mormons freak me out! :confused:

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FYI the mormon religion does NOT allow polygamy. If this person has multiple wives, he is not a member of the mormon church.

Thank you Vio and Jackie for an outsider's view. We are a nation of immigrants but sometimes we are a nation of I have mine, now go away.

When some brag..."my forefathers came here legally....it puzzles me....until fairly recently coming here legally meant having the money to buy passage and not having any of a number of communicable deseases and not being Chinese (for a while there was a national law against immigrants from China.) Quotas for immigrants from different countries and much of the red tape is relatively new.

It also meant being low man/woman on the totem pole. Working the jobs others didn't want and hopefully....working your way up and into the larger society.

We often wax eloquently about being the children of immigrants...until someone else wants to immigrate that is!

Two of my ancestors are Native American!!! Yep, they are here legally!! :D

It always astounded me when one of the most anti-immigration-of-any-sort people I have ever met was a woman by the last name of Gradziulis. (She is now deceased.) Now you know, you just know that that name was NOT present on the Mayflower, nor is it a Native American name, or even something that's been "Americanized" from being here so long. As she was more than 60 years my elder, I bit my tongue rather than pick a fight with her, but I was always astounded.

Like gun laws, immigration laws do not work if they are not enforced on anything but a sporadic basis.

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Originally Posted by Karen

Like gun laws, immigration laws do not work if they are not enforced on anything but a sporadic basis.

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I agree with this. Having worked in a Visa Section, I have my own idea of how it should work and how it does. Yes, a lot of people in search for a better life, break the law. People pay here around $6000 to get out of the country (to facilitators WHO I would call criminals). They sell everything for a chance. They are used wherever they go. They make some little money, taking care of old people - someone's parents, cleaning fish - that goes on someone's table, collecting garbage - everyone's garbage. Not many people from rich countries would take a job like that, because taking care of an incontinent old woman is not something they've been dreaming of doing. Yes, they don't pay taxes, make the ones who hire them responsible for that.

Going back to the original story...

1. If he is here illegally, then deport him and let him apply for citizenship
2. He was STILL wronged by OUR justice system and should be represented by a "free" lawyer and should have some compensation for the fact that spent 5 years of his life in prison for a crime that he didn't commit and the fact that he is here illegally shouldn't enter into the equation.
3. I'm with Richard, does he get back the synagogue that he built?
4. As far as allowing people to just come into our country without following the proper procedures...I do not,and will not, ever agree with that. We have always had policies in place to become an American citizen (after we gained our independence) and now we have so many people that it should be monitored more closely...I am not saying that the procedure should be made more difficult, I'm just saying that the tide of illegals (those not willing to follow the proper procedure) needs to be stopped. Unfortunately for the Native Americans, they have gotten the shaft at every turn by our government, yet at every pow wow we ever go to they celebrate the veterans of AMERICAN wars in the place of highest honor....
5. As for the parents who are making these false accusation should be punished with some jail time...how many lives have the destroyed? Once you have been branded a child molestor, you never lose it....even after you have been pardoned, people look at you sideways. I have known 4 or 5 people that have been accused and people still believe the worst. It also seems to me to be a form a child abuse too...(a stretch I know) when they use their child for their own financial gain.

I am currently going through the immigration process right now. I have no problem with people immigrating. What I do have a problem with is them getting a free ride because they decided not to do it legally. I could have come here illegally too but I'm not. We aren't even done with the process yet. I have a temporary visitors permit they gave me at the border while I wait for my K3 to process and then we can start the REAL immigration process. I have been seperated from my husband one week after we were married until just recently. We are spending a lot of money on this. It sucks and it's hard and tedious BUT we are still doing it LEGALLY.

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Originally Posted by sparks19

I am currently going through the immigration process right now. I have no problem with people immigrating. What I do have a problem with is them getting a free ride because they decided not to do it legally. I could have come here illegally too but I'm not. We aren't even done with the process yet. I have a temporary visitors permit they gave me at the border while I wait for my K3 to process and then we can start the REAL immigration process. I have been seperated from my husband one week after we were married until just recently. We are spending a lot of money on this. It sucks and it's hard and tedious BUT we are still doing it LEGALLY.

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GOOD FOR YOU!! And welcome to the country and may you live and be prosperous!