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Originally Posted by lizbud
Now THAT explains a lot.
*** Very tounge in cheek, so please take it easy.
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Originally Posted by lizbud
Now THAT explains a lot.
*** Very tounge in cheek, so please take it easy.
LIz, I'll wear my motorcycle helmet when I type from now on.:D
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I saw something on the tube that made me think and get kinda melancholy.
BO was to make a stop here in the Southland. People were camping out for tickets and the news crews stopped by to interview people.
As I flipped thru the channels the interviews were in two parts, some people wanted to see him in person and the other set were there to see if they culd ask the pres about getting some of the stimulus money for themselves.
Sheesh,
This is going to be a prob for this administration. 'giving' away money is the not the answer! Most of the people who lived within their means are doing 'o.k.' considering the econ climate. The people who over extended their financial limits are the ones that are begging to be helped. This is a scary
precedent because no one is inclined to clean up their mess-they want someone else to do it for them.
That really gets me angry that we have lost the desire and drive to 'do it ourselves'.
The people who wanted a government that would butt out of our lives is getting the opposite of their wishes!:(
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Originally Posted by RICHARD
Oh come on! Some people ...who make their own mess asking for a handout....NEVER happened before?
And this new action is the result of the Bush and the Obama administrations giving money to save corporations. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
PLEASE!!! An opinion about so-called "bailouts" - fine - dislike Obama and his ideas - fine....but to say...
...based on the overwrought interviews with some people. That make a "good" story on the news.Quote:
we have lost the desire and drive to 'do it ourselves'.
....hyperbole...drama...whining...
I don't know about you...but I am still doing "it" myself and so is just about everyone I know.
So a couple of people went to the Town Hall Meeting and asked for money. I realize the media (as you so often like to point out) makes a big deal out of it.
But...I really don't think this is indicative of a general collapse in the American spirit.
I hope someone tells Barney Frank to STFU.....
I used to like him, now he is just a political buffoon, Dance, Monkey, Dance.
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I heard that AIG put some cash into BO's campaign.....They got what they paid for!
The country is on dire financial stratights and he's picking out the bracket for the NCAA basketball tournament.
lololol.
Oh my gosh! At the OC Town Hall Meeting some people wanted to ask Obama...boxer or briefs?
Does this mean the country has lost its way? Do we no longer care about our own underwear? And how can it be blamed on Obama??
Oh wait!...it can be blame on Barbara Boxer for having a last name that is also used for men's underwear.
Or Barney Franks for never answewring the questions as to what HE wears!
Yup...thanks to Obama, Franks and Boxer we have lost our desire and drive to mind our own underwear!
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
It's a sad sad day indeed, when we think what type of underwear ANYONE wears is any of our business!!! People get a life of your own and stop trying to live through someone elses underwear choices!!! :eek: :D
I sped thru the Obama/60 minutes program on Sinday night.
Didn't really pay attention....But I saw on the news highlights the comment from Steve Kroft to BO.
"Are you punchdrunk?"
What kind of stupidity is that? If I was BO I would have answered, "Have you ever had your taxes audited thru you sphincter? Just kidding, Steve-o!"
OH, call me a hypocrite, but I would not be so stupid as to make a comment like that to the POTUS' face. MY comments are just musings from a disgruntled citizen, but SK is SUPPOSED to be a member of the media?
Give me a break.
Again, I didn't vote for the dude, but the office does deserve a little respect and I thought that the comment was one of the dumbest I have ever heard any 'talking head' make to a president.
What an moron.
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Originally Posted by RICHARD
Well , Obama has taken a lot of hits lately, so I think it's a fair question.
Besides, it's guy talk, right?
Nope, It's BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
I could see it done off camera or as a little fun and games leading up to the interview....
I think it was Bill O that had the dictionary meaning of the word and though I cannot get into SK's head, it was a a pretty stupid thing to say....
From the Merriam Web website...
1 : suffering cerebral injury usually from many minute brain hemorrhages that is a result of repeated head blows received in boxing and is typically marked by mental confusion, incoordination, and slurred speech
2 : behaving as if punch-drunk : dazed , confused
Kinda like telling the guy, "Man, are you all there?"
Guaranteed that two 'regular' guys would have given each other the stink eye and something would have been said about someones maternal parent.
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Originally Posted by RICHARD
I don't think Obama's ego is that fragile. This was an informal conversation.
This is fascinating. The same man who defends insulting the military of...in fact the whole nation of one of our closest allies...
...takes offense at a slang expression used in a interview that he admits he did not watch all of or watch what he did very closely.
Punchdrunk....okay..."meaning have you been hit so many times you are dizzy." Wow...I can see how that is insulting...:rolleyes::rolleyes:
I would suggest actually WATCHING the entire interview instead of just picking out words.
I know BO could not have thought up of the new term for "War on Terror"- He doesn't write the teleprompter speeches.
WTF is it with these morons who think that by changing the words WOT to some simplistic wordage -it was Overseas Something Innocuous- that the world will be a better place?
A spousal abuser is still some bully that kicks their SOs arse.
Same with the 'combatants' at Gitmo-they are the enemy.
I guess the new word for presidential cabinent members should be changed to High Level Morons.:rolleyes:
You mean kinda like garbage man is now sanitation engineer?Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
Yeah,Quote:
Originally Posted by Medusa
I think the term that's to be used, per the WH email that circulated is, "Overseas COntingency Action".
And since the reporters can call BO "punchdrunk", I'll call on him to see if the Special Olympics has a political arm, just in case.
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Originally Posted by RICHARD
"A rose by any other name"....and a terrorist by any other name is still a terrorist.
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Originally Posted by RICHARD
It's actually "Operation" not "Action"
Don't worry about Obama, he's fine.:D
Speaking of words and their meaning, has the word Christian changed
it's meaning lately???? This quoted article is from from a Christian organization.:confused:
Burt Prelutsky was a TV writer a long time ago. Then he aged
out of it and became a crank. This wasn't one of those major loses like
Steinbeck. Now he writes a column for Townhall.com, the popular website owned by a Christian radio network.
Here's something from his current offering:
Take Michelle Obama...please. Every time I turn around, there she is on a magazine cover. Now, normally, like the Mafia, I lay off the spouses, but inasmuch as this particular spouse attended the same racist church as her hubby for 20 years, I'll make an exception in her case. After all, in spite of the fact that affirmative action got her an Ivy League degree and a $7,000-a-week salary and, moreover, has sent billions of dollars for no particularly good reason to Africa, she insists this is a mean country. The burning question in my circle is: if the First Family gets a female dog, will she be the First Bitch or will she have to settle for second place?
Get it? Because "bitch" had two meanings!
Ah, Christian-sponsored humor. That's not just funny. That's Jesus funny.
Weird that Burt Prelutsky doesn't work more. Because that "take my wife... please" bit is also pure dynamite. Must be ageism.
Naturally, the left-wing media is now trying to convince us that this James Brown-look-alike has all the allure, glamour and fashion sense of Jackie Kennedy.
She's not pretty, for heaven's sakes! She's black! She's a black bitch!
You can read the rest at Townhall. The Internet home of culture warriors Dennis Prager, Bill Bennett and Michael Medved.
(Who have all, by the way, written about Barack Obama's horrible, shocking association with that racist hatemonger Jeremiah Wright. Who called America an ugly black bitch. Oh wait, he didn't.)
(They've also all written columns bemoaning how angry and mean liberal humor is.)
If you read Burt Prelutsky's columns, you'll see that he isn't a racist; he just has a lot of thoughts -- I mean a lot -- about how black people should behave. If Langston Hughes had talked about black people as much at Burt Prelutsky does, someone would have told him to sit down.
Here's another Burt Prelutsky column from Townhall:
If we were a racist society, Oprah Winfrey, your fairy godmother, certainly wouldn't be a billionaire; she'd be fetching someone's mint julep. And Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice wouldn't grow up to be secretaries of state; they'd be sweeping out the stables. And Will Smith and Denzel Washington wouldn't be movie stars; they'd be in the fields picking cotton.
That's awfully big of us, letting Denzel Washington rise so high above his station. Thanks, Burt. Thanks Townhall. (Cross-posted with Stormfront.)
The executive editor of Townhall is Hugh Hewitt. His current column is about how terribly offended he was when Barack Obama made a joke about the Special Olympics:
We should hope President Obama makes more than apology. We should hope he makes good.
By getting me a julep.
Now, if there's one thing I hate worse that playing gotcha with a joke that goes wrong, it's using guilt-by-association and high dudgeon to score cheap political points. But I gotta ask:
Should we hope Hugh Hewitt apologizes for publishing sad old Burt Prelutsky?
How should he make good?
Oh, the Christian broadcasters who own Townhall, the site that says Michelle Obama is a bitch and Will Smith is lucky he's not picking cotton.
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Originally Posted by lizbud
Hmm, No wonder I was a c student on poli sci.
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Hey,
it was o.k. for people to talk for the last 8 years.
So why the disharmony now?
THis makes me laugh because foul mouthed radio hosts came out and called people far worse and no body gave a flying, Mach 1 crap. So now someone calls a few names and people are getting mad and blog about it,
I can see the idiots that seethe, then purge a fat pile of steamy......opinion, post it, them some other righteous idiot dissects it, posts about it and nothing is done or said.
Ohh, he called a Woman of Strength a name.
That makes all the rest of the planet Women of Weak?
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I think I'll go plug into some rap right now, Biatches!:cool:
I think Obama could do a great service to the Special Olympics by taking the chalenge and bowling against the SP Gold Medal winner.
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Originally Posted by blue
LOL, like a Vlad Putin style of press op?:D
Um Ah........Do you think....ahh........ummmm that the SP has a.......ummmmm
debate um team?
Well, to answer that question we need to know what you think it means. There is no right or wrong answer either.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
So, what does the word "Christian" mean to you?
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Who is WE?
We = ChristiansQuote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
I am not saying you are not one, or are a good/bad one. There are, obviously, a large amount of interpretations (denominations) of Christians.
I commonly see people, especially people who are NOT Christians, say things like... "That is not very Christian of you." To which I respond, "how do you know?" LOL
So again, there is no right or wrong answer and I am not trying to pick a fight or anything... (Really, we might just have some common ground here. That is important to me if it is so.) What does being a Christian mean to you?
To me, it means simply this... Being a Christian means that you have...
1. Admitted your spiritual need. Admit you are a sinner.
2. Believe that Jesus Christ died for YOU on the cross.
3. Received Jesus Christ into your heart and life.
4. Repent and be willing to turn from your sin.
After that, live your life as the Spirit moves you. Pray for guidance and follow where that guidance (your heart) leads.
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Can I add a few?
Picked mass over the NFL, Parked in a handicapped space and had an epiphany afterwards, Had a Mickey D's fish sandwich on a Friday during Lent and cringed when someone said, "Jesus, Mary and Dale Earnhardt Jr....."
Well, there are people who ARE Christians and ones who PRETEND they are!
Jesus knows who is and who isn't!
During the last days there is to be a great falling away from the faith. The pretenders are just helping prove the Bible is right on! ;)
(so are the anti-religion groups that keep squawking about getting their little feelings hurt because someone believes in God):rolleyes:
What about the rights of people who don't believe in God?
The great Carl Sagan being one of those.
Freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion.
Not everyone believes in a virgin birth, a man rising from the death, the bible. Satan.
If you had to explain God, Jesus and the Saints to a person who had never heard of them what would you say? How would you explain it?
A virgin birth, not possible. Rising from the dead, not possible. If a person asked you for proof what would you show them? What physical proof do we have? The bible, yes but it was written by men, great story tellers perhaps, but proof? I can't think of any physical proof, the fact that we are here can be explained by the Big Bang. But who created the Big Bang, why God of course and who created God??
Faith is something we are taught often from an early age. Our parents take us to the church of their choice and we learn that churchs beliefs.
Very few people that I know actually researched their faith their church. They go where their parents or grandparents went or they marry into it.
We take more time picking out a car then we do finding a church often.
If people were to study religion, different faiths and then as adults choose which faith, which belief and which church if any they wanted to attend I wonder how our world would be different. I wonder if people would be more understanding, more excepting and tolerant if others.
The Jewish people don't believe Jesus was the son of God, for Christians this is a must, but why? Because the church taught them.
Again what proof do we have that God is really there except for our need to know that some being will always love us, care for us, protect us, guide us. For we are truly fragil creatures. Confused, often unloved, forgotten, left to fend for ourselves. We watch our loved ones die, husbands, chidlren, friends, neighbors and we are afraid. God help us, I am ill, cure me for I don't want to die. The need of us humans to have hope to believe in a being that can cause a miracle is truly what is behind many peoples need to pray and for a God. For we know that life is short and perhaps we cannot bare the thought of it ending forever. Death, dead gone that's it. No heaven, no hell just totally gone. As humans we are too self-centered to believe that. We need to believe that life will go on somehow, we will go to heaven, it can't just end, it can't. 5000 years ago the Egyptians felt the same way. They had never heard of Jesus of course but that did not stop them from praying to the sun, moon and countless other Gods. They built the Pryamids to house the dead to travel to the afterlife. Again that human need to live on. I believe that fear makes us want, need to believe in an afterlife. It did 5000 years ago and I don't think much has changed, we fear death just as much. We just pray to a different God now.
Being a good person, decent, kind, honest, hardworking, loving,f orgiving, excepting has nothing to do with a person's faith. We find these people in all places on the earth and in all houses of worship on the same side we find evil, hurt, lust, greed, murder in all places on this earth and all houses of worship. No religion that I know of teaches us to be evil, they all teach goodness and love. It's just to what extreme you are willing to take it and what rights you want to take away from another because yours are correct and their's are not. In the middle east they are willing to strap a bomb to themselves to prove their point, hard to understand but I guess that is how they read their bible, don't know. Again if people had to study religion, all different faiths and decide based on logic what made sense to them. Would the world be a better place? Would they still believe in God or in just a higher being?
You have every right to not believe in God or in anything for that matter. If it pleases you to believe you came from an ape, well go for it. If you prefer to believe in nothing with no hope for eternity, well, that's your right too. And the big bang? So, where did the things that came together to make the big bang come from? The elements had to have been created somehow by something or someone.
BUT you DO NOT have the right to keep me from worshiping my God just because you don't like it.
You may think Car Sagan was great but he is not even a pimple in the course of my life.
I know for a fact that there is life after death so don't even try that one on me. Just several things that have happened in my life that I don't care to share with the world but that happened none the less.
Actually I do believe in God and was brought up in the church, life after death, I can't bare to think of not seeing my mom in heaven. That said.........
This is America and people have the right to be free of religion and still be thought of as good people.
Easter the most holy of the holidays keeps changing. What day did Christ raise from the dead, no one seems to really know? So how can we be sure it happened?
As to who created the big bang well who created God?
If you are explaining your belief to a non-believer, if they want to truly know, truly understand your faith and why we believe this way what proof can you show them? Is there one piece of evidence one solid fact one scrap of physical proof or anything that we could show a person and say LOOK here it is, here is proof that this man was not just a good person but truly a God. Is there one? Anywhere???
If your parents were Jewish or Amish or Budda and you were brought up in that faith, would your belief be as strong? Probably for it is what you were taught and what the people around you believed. We see our parents in their strong belief and they teach us that this is correct so of course we believe, why would they lie to us? So I ask again what proof do you have that a man can rise from the dead, that a virgin birth can occur that all these miracles happened? You have the bible and heresay. That is what faith is. It's the blind, unproven belief deep in your soul that you hope is correct taught by others that believed the same way. It is not based on any fact, unless I missed something. So when a child asks is Jesus real, show me, well show them what?
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Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces
Faith is the belief in things unseen,and unknowable.:)
I would rather believe in God (heaven & all the rest), than not believe,
die and find out how wrong I was.:)
Agreed, 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
To quote the King James version of the scripture: "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen". - Hebrews 11:1 The Living Bible says it a bit differently: "Faith...is the certainty that what we hope for is waiting for us, even though we cannot see it up ahead".`
All we have is evidence. We don't have proof positive of a God or we wouldn't be having this discussion. We would all be in agreement. To say that we know absolutely would be arrogant because we don't really know. We do, however, have evidence, strong evidence of a supreme being. We can't see the wind but we can feel and see its effects. It would be foolish to deny the existence of the wind but how do we prove that it actually exists? We can't; we only have evidence by what it can do. We have faith, the evidence of things not seen.
As for virgin births: cloning is an example of a modern day version of it. :love:
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Originally Posted by lizbud
Twitter us when you get there/find out, Please?
I am sorry and it's not meant to be mean spirited or anything like that! I just had this funny idea that maybe you could let us in on what to expect! It's ven more funny because I choose not to own a phone, so I'll be the last to know.
Richard you are SO funny!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
First off, why do you think she will cross over before you do?
Plus, you don't twitter on the phone, you twitter on a computer. Right? ;) :D
One of my favorite conundrums...who will be more disappointed - those who believe in life after death or those who don't?Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
I was interviewing a candidate for a sales job - on the phone. He tells me he likes to discuss scriptures with clients. He tells me a story of falling on his kness in the men's room for advice on a difficult sale.
I was uncomfortable. I don't care - Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Wiccan, none of the above...I don't think that kind of conversation belongs in the workplace. ESPECIALLY when you do not know the affliation of the person with whom you are speaking.
WTF do I know?Quote:
Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces
I am living to be 200 anyway.......:D
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Don't tell me,,, he didn't get the job, right? :D TMI fella.
I had the most interestingly attack of silliness when I heard this phrase on the tube.
"You will be defeated."
Now if I remember correctly, another person made a comment that was something like, "Bring it on!" and people fainted in the streets, toddlers cried, animals attacked humans and the end of the world was nigh!
So, here we go again....People challenging terrorists! One guy asks for the challenge and the other makes it a point to say that they will get whupped!
Does anyone know if there is lead paint or asbestos in the Oval Office and how quickly would it affect anyone working there?
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Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces
Possible now but not 2000 years ago.
With God, all things are possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marigold2
He's gazillions of times smarter than people. We just took this long to figure this much out. We may never know for sure how the virgin birth happened but then, we aren't supposed to know EVERYTHING. Our tiny brains would probably explode!