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I don't think you should.

1) If you didn't have *any* money to take Tink to the vet right before she died, then how do you think you'll magically have money for this new puppy? About $1000 within the first month or so with the new puppy, and you didn't have $50 for a vet trip? That's absurd to think that you're financially stable enough to handle a new pup.

2) I also think it's too soon.

3) I don't believe you've done your research into this breeder. And if you can spot a good breeder, then why didn't you go with your mom last time? Wait, research ALL options, and go from there. Check petfinder, all of the humane societies around, etc. Nothing is written that you HAVE to have a pom. Go visit the shelters, I'm sure you'll find a dog that you fall in love with at first sight.

4) You're only 13, why is your mom letting this be up to you? It'll be her supporting this dog financially, so why shouldn't she do the research? Even if she doesn't know how to use a computer, does she know how to use a telephone? Have her call around to shelters. Does she know how to drive a car? Have her go to the shelters and TALK to the people personally. Have her drive herself to the library, does she not know how to open a book and read? There is so much more information about dogs, poms, and care in general in books.

5) You don't know what Tink died from, therefore you shouldn't bring a dog back into the house so soon. What if this new pup gets the same illness, all because it was Parvo or something even worse and you "didn't know"? You SAY you know it's not Parvo, but you don't know that for sure. You didn't take Tink in before she died, therefore, you DON'T know.

I just think you should wait and check out options. Look around, don't jump into things. You're better off with some sort of rescue. They *need* homes. They need the second chance. Dogs from a breeder don't need a home because they already have a home. If no one wants to adopt them, then the breeder is fully prepared to keep them. Simple as that. Dogs at rescues need that second chance a full-life.

Simply said on my part....I DO NOT think this is a good idea!

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Originally Posted by buckner

I don't think you should.

1) If you didn't have *any* money to take Tink to the vet right before she died, then how do you think you'll magically have money for this new puppy? About $1000 within the first month or so with the new puppy, and you didn't have $50 for a vet trip? That's absurd to think that you're financially stable enough to handle a new pup.

2) I also think it's too soon.

3) I don't believe you've done your research into this breeder. And if you can spot a good breeder, then why didn't you go with your mom last time? Wait, research ALL options, and go from there. Check petfinder, all of the humane societies around, etc. Nothing is written that you HAVE to have a pom. Go visit the shelters, I'm sure you'll find a dog that you fall in love with at first sight.

4) You're only 13, why is your mom letting this be up to you? It'll be her supporting this dog financially, so why shouldn't she do the research? Even if she doesn't know how to use a computer, does she know how to use a telephone? Have her call around to shelters. Does she know how to drive a car? Have her go to the shelters and TALK to the people personally. Have her drive herself to the library, does she not know how to open a book and read? There is so much more information about dogs, poms, and care in general in books.

5) You don't know what Tink died from, therefore you shouldn't bring a dog back into the house so soon. What if this new pup gets the same illness, all because it was Parvo or something even worse and you "didn't know"? You SAY you know it's not Parvo, but you don't know that for sure. You didn't take Tink in before she died, therefore, you DON'T know.

I just think you should wait and check out options. Look around, don't jump into things. You're better off with some sort of rescue. They *need* homes. They need the second chance. Dogs from a breeder don't need a home because they already have a home. If no one wants to adopt them, then the breeder is fully prepared to keep them. Simple as that. Dogs at rescues need that second chance a full-life.

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TINK HAD A PARVO TESt....it WAS negative!! I have done my research, I am getting this puppy, I asked for opinions and I got my opinions. If the puppies are ok and the breeder is good we are getting the puppy. We will be prepared for this puppy...We know tink had something CONGENITAL...

How do you know what she died from was indeed congenital and not something contagious if you did not being her to the vet beforehand?

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Originally Posted by Jessika

How do you know what she died from was indeed congenital and not something contagious if you did not being her to the vet beforehand?

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The vet already said she had something congenital.....

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Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13

The vet already said she had something congenital.....

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That does not mean that's what she died from, though.

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Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13

TINK HAD A PARVO TESt....it WAS negative!! I have done my research, I am getting this puppy, I asked for opinions and I got my opinions. If the puppies are ok and the breeder is good we are getting the puppy. We will be prepared for this puppy...We know tink had something CONGENITAL...

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I'm so confused. I must of missed a thread explaining this or something. How did she get a parvo test if she didn't go to the vet when she died. How do you know she had something congenital if she never went to the vet?

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I'm so confused. I must of missed a thread explaining this or something. How did she get a parvo test if she didn't go to the vet when she died. How do you know she had something congenital if she never went to the vet?

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She said that she did go to the vet, but they couldn't afford to take her again before she died.

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I'm so confused. I must of missed a thread explaining this or something. How did she get a parvo test if she didn't go to the vet when she died. How do you know she had something congenital if she never went to the vet?

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SHe got a parvo test that one timse she was at the vet all day. She went to the vet 3 times while we had her. and the last time, the vet said she had hypoglocemia or something congenital with her liver. neither were contagious

Ok, I didn't mean to start anything. Like I said I did not know her situation. But now that I do know the situation, I do not believe she should get another puppy right now.

It sounds like the decision has already been made and all of your valid points are moot. :(

I, too, think it's too early and I'm really concerned about the financial stuff.

Just my 2 cents.

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Does Roxy have all of her vacines to make sure she's not exposed to whatever Tink had if it was contagious?

If for sure you are getting this puppy, have you and your mom considered pet insurence??

Maybe you could spend more time with Roxy, work on her and maybe convince your parents to let her be inside with you. It's sad that you didn't have enough money to take Tink to the vet, you have a dog that lives outside on a chain yet you still want another dog :(

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Originally Posted by Uabassoon

Maybe you could spend more time with Roxy, work on her and maybe convince your parents to let her be inside with you. It's sad that you didn't have enough money to take Tink to the vet, you have a dog that lives outside on a chain yet you still want another dog :(

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I agree...

u all have some points but now your just getting mad at her and its gonna become a big fight its her decision some people need to get another pet right away and some cant even bare to get another pet everyone is different she has said many times she now has the money and will be saving for a month and a half if she dosent have enough money then she dosent....just leave it at that or it will become a big fight she asked for opinions not b*tching wich is what some of your are doing thats all im gonna say

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Originally Posted by buttercup132

u all have some points but now your just getting mad at her and its gonna become a big fight its her decision some people need to get another pet right away and some cant even bare to get another pet everyone is different she has said many times she now has the money and will be saving for a month and a half if she dosent have enough money then she dosent....just leave it at that or it will become a big fight she asked for opinions not b*tching wich is what some of your are doing thats all im gonna say

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NOBODY here is "b*tching" at her at all, we all just want to make 100% sure that she knows what she's getting into and want to make sure that the situation will be best for her AND the puppy and she will NOT have to deal with another repeat of the Tink situation.

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Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13

I am REALLY lonely without Tink...

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Here's a reputable pom breeder in Tennessee

http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/3849/

I would of showed you on msn but your not on.. :p

the site didnt work :(

I know that you must be really lonely with out her but you still have Roxy :( I kind of get the impression that she was being on the back burner while you had Tink. I know its hard for you, and I know you miss Tink but if you are lonely go take Roxy for a walk, play with etc!

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Originally Posted by Uabassoon

Maybe you could spend more time with Roxy, work on her and maybe convince your parents to let her be inside with you. It's sad that you didn't have enough money to take Tink to the vet, you have a dog that lives outside on a chain yet you still want another dog :(

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WHAT?! She lives on a chain?! I didn't know that! You definetly don't need another dog if the one you have now has to live outside ... you need to pay more attention to her.

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Originally Posted by buttercup132

u all have some points but now your just getting mad at her and its gonna become a big fight its her decision some people need to get another pet right away and some cant even bare to get another pet everyone is different she has said many times she now has the money and will be saving for a month and a half if she dosent have enough money then she dosent....just leave it at that or it will become a big fight she asked for opinions not b*tching wich is what some of your are doing thats all im gonna say

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Not to be rude, but she is only 13 and she probably doesn't fully know/understand the financial situation. I'm sure her mom will get her another dog because she says she is lonely, and she will most likely do *anything* to get another dog, even if they don't have the money. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's hard to believe everything she says about money because she is only 13. I know when I was 13 I didn't fully understand everything about bills, and if my mom said we could get another dog I'd lie about anything to get it and have everyone on my side.

And don't bring up the "age doesn't matter" crap, because when it comes to the life of an animal a 13 year old shouldn't be fully responsible. I was extremely mature at 13 but I STILL shouldn't have been responsible for an animal's life, so even if this girl is really smart I think her mom needs to play a bigger role in this and not have her pick out the breeder. Her mom needs to do some research.

No matter what is decided, it is your mom and you who make the decission. ;) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...CHICA2/dog.gifIf it is meant to be then it will happen. Good luck on the new baby!!!!!! ;)

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Originally Posted by buckner

I don't think you should.

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I agree.

You say you're lonely without Tink, then spend time with Roxy and then neither one of you will be lonely. :)

Why would anybody have a dog they dump outside on a chain and then have one that they take inside and coddle. You should train Roxy and give her proper care and take her inside before getting another dog. Why don't you give Roxy to another family, it sounds like you don't want her, you just want this new puppy. Puppies grow up too.

:( meh. I really feel that you should take some time to grieve for your poor puppy, and improve the life of your LIVING dog! Roxy is still living outside, is she not? Maybe use the extra effort and time you have to give Roxy extra special care, keep the house clean so that she can come inside, and spend lots of time exercising and training her. Why do you need a new puppy when the life of the dog you have now should be improved, you've admitted that yourself!

The fact that you jump from your puppy dying one day to thinking of names for your new puppy the next day really gives me a bad feeling. I have high doubts that the breeder you are buying your new puppy from is reputable... if they're calling them "teacup Poms", you bet they're a bad breeder! You really should learn from the unnecessary death of Tink, that it isn't WORTH the pain and trauma to the dog and your family to buy for a cheaper price from a crappy breeder/mill/broker.

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The fact that you jump from your puppy dying one day to thinking of names for your new puppy the next day really gives me a bad feeling.

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That is what has really been bothering me about this whole thing. When Buttons died it took me three months before I could get Nova. Now, I had him for 14 years, but even if I had only had him for three weeks I think it would take me more than 24 hours to want another dog!

Very WELL said bckrazy!!!

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Very WELL said bckrazy!!!

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i agree!
When my Sheena passed away,we didnt even think of getting another dog until 10 months after(which was Lucy).
i think you.should take the time and money into Roxy for now.But if you really think your ready,then do it.

I don't post much, but following this whole tragic episode has grieved me. To read about poor little Tink bleeding rectally and not being taken to the vet because "they couldn't afford it" seemed terribly irresponsible. Of course, only a day or two later she was dead. No surprise there; such a tiny and young dog should have been RUSHED to the vet at the first sign of blood.

The sad truth is that any 13 year old girl would love to have a cute, tiny dog because it is a living toy. That isn't a valid reason for the parent to buy it for the child -- it is the worst possible reason. When the "toy" gets sick and dies, just buy another one. :( How awfully sad!

All the while, the bigger, adult dog spends its life at the end of a chain, alone and wishing for some companionship. What are the odds that it will receive vet care if it gets sick; I think we know the answer to that question.

And her mother isn't doing a very good job of teaching this child that animals are to be treated with respect.

If you can't love and take care of the animal, why have a pet?

I wasn't going to say anything, and, I won't say anything after this. But, I will say that it's not a bad thing for someone to get another dog immediately after losing one. I've known people who have done just that, and, it doesn't mean they love their pet any less. I know it took me less than a year to get a new puppy, and, had I had the means sooner, I may have gotten a dog within a month. It's not only different for every single person and every single pet, it's different for every single situation.

That being said, I have been partially keeping up with this whole debacle, and, I won't say too much more about it. But, if this "discussion" is going to go forward, I think it needs to stay more focused on the fact that there is an adult dog that is not getting the attention it needs. It needs to stay more focused on the fact that this family couldn't afford to take their puppy to the vet when she was sick. It needs to stay more focused on the fact that this may not be an ideal situation to bring another animal into.

I don't know, I just don't think it's fair to criticize her for wanting another puppy, based on the time frame, anyway. I agree that she probably wants it for the wrong reasons, and, I agree that she probably shouldn't be allowed to have another dog until the one she has is taken better care of. I can totally understand arguing all the points of interest here...but, if everything else were in place and the situation was different...I don't see how wanting another puppy immediately after is such a bad thing.

And, again...please don't misunderstand me. I don't think a new puppy is a good idea for this child and her family, but, for many other reasons besides it being too soon to want another dog. Everyone is different. Just because you can't see yourself getting another dog so soon after the death of your pet, doesn't mean it isn't exactly what someone else might need. AGAIN, I do disagree with a new dog being brought into this home. The whole situation seems off...sad, and, upsetting, to say the very least.

EDITED: There are many reasons for this family not to have another puppy... I just don't think the fact that it's so soon after Tink's passing should be thrown at her...on it's own, that wouldn't be such a terrible thing. Bah. I know what I'm trying to say...I think what I am trying to convey is to keep this as factual as possible, and, maybe a little less emotional. The point may get across a little better, I don't know. I just don't think, with all the other crappy things going on, that that needs to be thrown into it. Sorry, I'm ill and rambling. :)

Roxyluvsme13,

I agree with the others that now might not be the right time for another dog. I'm very sorry that you lost your dog Tink- I think everyone here knows what it's like to lose a beloved pet/family member; I lost my 17 year-old cat this year whom I've had since I was a child.
I think what everyone is saying is not that it's not right to want another dog but that you need to consider this new dog's welfare more than you are considering your own feelings. As other people have said, new puppies require lots of time and money, and rushing out to buy a new puppy without thinking about it's welfare is a mistake. :( Your intentions are probably good, but think about your other pets' lives and ask yourself if you are doing all you can for them, and if you can really fully care for another.

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I know that you must be really lonely with out her but you still have Roxy :( I kind of get the impression that she was being on the back burner while you had Tink. I know its hard for you, and I know you miss Tink but if you are lonely go take Roxy for a walk, play with etc!

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THANK YOU!

everyone has WONDERFUL points but I don't think she is going to listen to us again.....
**sigh**

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there is nothing I can say that someone has not already said in one way shape or form. I am just glad someone brought up the financial aspect b/c I think that I a big factor - what happens in 4 months when this pup gets sick and her mom can't afford it either b/c she just shelled out $$$$ to BUY the pup.

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Originally Posted by Uabassoon

Maybe you could spend more time with Roxy, work on her and maybe convince your parents to let her be inside with you. It's sad that you didn't have enough money to take Tink to the vet, you have a dog that lives outside on a chain yet you still want another dog :(

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Ditto :(

I try to stay out of threads like this but I just wanted to say that I agree. Wanting another dog so soon is not what bothers me, it's the fact that poor Roxy still lives outside on a chain and she doesn't seem to care about improving that, and not taking Tink to the vet when she was obviously very ill.

well what can you do when you dont have to money? i dont think if you dont have to money to take tink to the vet then you dont have the money to get another dog...yes roxy should be able to live in the house and if not given to some one that can give her that.

I'm not getting too much into this. I highly suggest NOT getting another dog until your mom is finacially stable, and poor Roxy...I've felt sorry for her since I heard she was on the chain outside. But if you're going to be stubborn, here:
Look at this face!
He's housebroken. Crate trained. And dosen't have many, if any, health problems. Whoo hoo!

And look...a pom puppy! For adoption.
Clickity
I'm adorable...
And look at this. A purebred pom, pregnant by another pure pom, having puppies that will be ready after the first of the year...for adoption, at a rescue!
"Mercedes"

If you -have- to have another dog, please rescue. I plan on getting a papillon within a year or two, and I will be rescuing. You don't need to get one from a breeder, especially if you're not showing.

Although I am still fairly young myself I still do know alot.

First, if you had a financial problem during the month and couldn't pay for
Tink's vet visit then I think you should wait just a little longer to save more money. What if that problem happens again and you don't have money? I think you should save for a little longer and have like $700 on the side for emergency vet care or if you are in a financial bind.

Second, are you emotionally ready for a new puppy? I now that when a puppy dies you want to get another one right away but although it makes you feel better, it may not be the best thing. You may look at the puppy and start crying because s/he will remind you of Tink.

Thirdly, do just a little more research on this breeder. I am sure you know how to tell a BYB from a reputable breeder but just to be on the safe side do more research. Look at your local Humane Society or Pom Rescue groups. We drove 8 hours to get Astra and 4 to get Molly.

Fourthly, Maybe you should train Roxy more, and give her proper house etiquette. You should take her for walks, or play with her. Maybe you can ask your mom to take you and Roxy to the park. What I am trying to say is: Why get another dog when one that is sweet and gentle and kind is living outside on a chain?

Well with that said, I hope you have done all this things and have reconisdered getting a puppy so soon.
-Monica

I honestly don't think anyone is going to change her mind in this situation. If she wants a puppy, she is going to get it no matter what you say...

I don't see why your other dog needs to live outside though...? Did Tink live outside? Then why is this dog...