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Originally Posted by luvofallhorses
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But I am glad Tink doesn't have Parvo - that's scary...
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Originally Posted by luvofallhorses
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But I am glad Tink doesn't have Parvo - that's scary...
I know ITS unfair to have Tink inside and Roxy not! Roxy has alwas lived outside, and shes ALWAYS had a good doghouse. Roxy is allowed inside, if its raining or storming badly, or if its cold, or sometimes if i beg she is allowed in the laundry room. If IT was up to me....ROXY WOULD BE INSIDE! Really its not my fault about all this, I begged and begged and begged, but was roxy allowed inside?! NO! We had Roxy before Skye, and Roxy has ALWAYS lived outside, so we didnt think about that anyways...Before Skye Roxy still lived outside, and that was because we lived in a small house. If that makes any sense or If you have any more questions just askQuote:
Originally Posted by luvofallhorses
Sure glad to know Tink is going to be okay!
Thank you :) I'm sorry everybody is mad about me at Roxy, but It's not my fault! I BEGGED AND BEGGED! and I really wish she and Tink could both live inside...For the Latest on Tink, I made a new Thread...
http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=90640
Thanks For All The Support...but Really about Roxy...Is it REALLY my fault? I'm only 13...gosh...Sadly it's my moms decision:(:mad:
You are right and I really don't think people are holding YOU responsible. I don't. I know that your mom is the adult in the equation and its her decision. Growing up myself we had an outside dog. He was never tied tho. He had full run of the 3 acres of my parents place. And a doggie door and nice warm dog house with lots of blankets in it to keep him warm in the winter and in the summer HE pulled the blankets out. He really had it good in there in the summer b/c we didn't have a/c at the time and it was cooler in the garage the our house. The people here are just frustrated with the situations and uneducation of people like your mom that makes the animal live in this situation.
And just b/c lots of dogs around where you live have that kind of life doesn't make it right or doesn't make it better for people to accept. A lot of dogs around here are like that too and it still pi$$es me off.
That said there are a TON of outside cats also and it still irks me also.
Well Roxy loves being outside, and if she was put inside in our actual house she would go insane. I would love for her to live inside, but at least in bad weather she gets to come in the laundry room. Which is a nice and warm place especially in cold weather or rain. Roxy seems perfectley happy outside, i mean she grew up living outside...and AT LEAST my mom lets her come inside in bad weather....:(
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by shais_mom
I agree with shais_mom...we're not holding YOU responsible. I just wish your mom would let Roxy AND Tinkerbelle live inside. :( I really don't think it matters if she loves being outside or not. Dogs belong with us, not outside. Again, I don't think you're the one at fault.
I know...I tried convincing her...but I'll admit...at one very point in time when we first got Roxy, she DID live inside. It was only for about a month, but omg Roxy tore up EVERYTHING! she tore up my moms blinds, and some other important stuff, and thats probably another reason. (We moved out of the house that she stayed inside in temporarily) Our landlord probably doesnt want Roxy to stay inside either (we dont own our house we're renting it) :( I wish there was SOMETHING I could do
That is what dogs do, especially puppies. What if Tinkerbelle were to do this stuff?? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13
Tink almost knocked over a very very expensive candle stick holder thingy, and...I moved the candlestick, Idk what my mom would do, but certainly not place her outside...Roxy though is kinda big...and my mom just doesnt like biger dogs in the house...Idk seriously why Roxy cant stay inside...
Why didn't she consider this before adopting Roxy?? :( It's just not fair. :(
At the time we adopted Roxy, we were planning on letting her be an inside dog, but now we have a huge yard, and Roxy just felt cooped up inside, and didnt like it at all...So she started staying outside, and when I bring her inside, she begs to go back outside...
**sigh**
you know what - you need to STOP - we understand this isn't your doing.
But this continued whining and excuse giving isn't helping. You are not going to change your mom's mind. We understand that. We aren't trying to change YOUR mind. That doesn't need changed apparently. And we can't change your mom's mind and quite honestly I don't think your mom would really like it if she DID read this thread and would probably think we were trashing her and proabably wouldn't allow you to come back here.
I have heard people say that their dogs don't like to be in the house - I can't honestly say if I believe that or not b/c I don't live with that dog. My dog, when she was a puppy if I had her tied while I was doing yard work etc and had to run in the house for one minute she would HOWL b/c she doesn't like to be outside without me. But she doesn't know any different.
And why do you keep replying to this at noon on a Tuesday shouldn't you be in school?
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Sorry :( I don't mean to whine...or give too many excuses...I just feel that some people do blame me, I know that you and Krista and some others don't, but I think some do :( Idk...
I'm not in school, because I'm out this whole week :) yay It's our fall break here :D
RLM13- you told us the other night on the PT chat forum completely different reasons about why Roxy lives outside. You also admitted that Roxy remains CHAINED in the backyard. It is just so frustrating to me that you go along with this so readily. I don't want to hear the stuff about it being your mom's house, your just a child, blah, blah, blah. If you are old enough to beg for a new pet, and adopt one, and THIS one gets to stay inside, you are old enough to communicate with your mom the wrongness of this. I frankly do not understand HOW you could bring another pet into your home, knowing your FIRST pet lives outside, chained up. I would feel guilty every moment of everyday. And, Roxy, according to your signature, is a Boxer/PitBull mix. That is NOT an outside dog. Shame on you for defending your position. :( :(
I SERIOUSLY TRIED to convince my mom! SHE DOESNT LISTEN TO ME! Yes Roxy is chained outside all the time, and really whats wrong with chaining? I mean like EVERY single large dog thats Roxy's size is chained here! Well Actually I know chaining is wrong, and that your dog should only be chained when your supervising it, Ugh I'm so confused!!! :( Roxy likes being outside...she doesnt like being inside...and whys she not an outside dog? Ok Trying not to be mean or complain or anythng just trying to keep the peace...i'm confused so im going to shush on this reply before i make people dislike me moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Cataholic
I really dont know a whole lot about the boxer breed I do know that pit bulls are people dogs. They love, love being with their owners. They are also a high engery dog. I hope for Roxy's sake that you at least take her out and walk her every day. She deserves that. I dont think any dog should have to live on a chain. :(
Of course she gets walked! I'm not going to make her stay on a chain all day...she is very high energy, and so are boxers...that combination in a house dog is not good...inside she didnt have room to run, and shes not housetrained...
She doesn't even have a dog house?? :( I think that we should just let this topic go, there is nothing we can do about it. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13
1) Sorry that I came across harsh over the school thing.. Fall Break - that's cool.Quote:
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2) ENOUGH! STOP! STOP! and Like I said in my previous Post STOP! you are backtracking - "what's wrong with chaining? Oh I know chaining is wrong."Quote:
Roxyluvsme13 Of course she gets walked! I'm not going to make her stay on a chain all day...she is very high energy, and so are boxers...that combination in a house dog is not good...inside she didnt have room to run, and shes not housetrained...
Stop using the excuse of 'it happens everywhere around here' that does NOT make it right. Just b/c 5 people jump off a bridge b/c its what happens around here doesn't mean that the 6th person does it!
3) That is BULLS---! I know plenty of people that have pits in the house and that have boxers in the house. Maximus is a Lab/pit mix and he's very much in the house. That sounds like an excuse your mom has used and you believe her.
remember Krista - she has said several times that she comes in for severe weather and I do believe she said she does have a dog house.Quote:
Originally Posted by luvofallhorses
Shes no a large dog!Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13
You said she got walked once a week on the chat. That isn't nearly enough for a dog that is living on a chain! She would adapt to living inside and the only reason she doesn't like it, is because she never has been a house dog! She would become house trained if you tried!!!
Imagin how she feels, now that you have a new dog and she is left outside!
You are not supervising her all the time!Quote:
and that your dog should only be chained when your supervising it
Oh, sorry. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by shais_mom
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by CagneyDog
Well, I'm glad to know you walk her. We live in a very small house! I have 3 dogs. ACD mix, pit/lab mix and a pit bull. They are all in the house. Ebony is a pup she is wild but its my job to teach her manners and not let her tear my house up. It can be done you have to put forth the effort. Even though Tink is little, she will tear things up also. Its not only big dogs that do that.
Roxy has a NICE big cozy warm dog house...Quote:
Originally Posted by luvofallhorses
Ok Roxy is going to get walked more than usual...I know chaining is bad...(I'm really trying to stay calm here but I'm about to burst into tears or something), Roxy is chained all the time...I'm sure with alot of work and things, Roxy could be able to live inside...We've had animal control at our house, and they say NOTHING about Roxy being chained, I have tried for a long time to get my mom to let Roxy stay inside! IT DOES NOT WORK SHE DOES NOT LISTEN TO ME...AT LEAST SHE LETS HER IN IN BAD STORMS OR COLD WEATHER.
Why was animal control at your house?
I'm sorry I was so harsh, I really am. This just really gets to me. :( Can't you try to convince your mom by saying you will help her with Roxy and train her AND do it?? That could work, it doesn't hurt to try. :)
They go around the neighborhoods, and check animals....They were there because of a previous dog I think...Quote:
Originally Posted by beeniesmom
Unfortunately, animal control can't do or say anything unless the dog is without food or water or some sort of roof - doesn't matter what it is. :(
I guess all dogs don't live the luxury that they should be allowed to.
I would never in my wildest dreams ask my parents for another animal if the previous animal was stuck outside.
I tried that...:(Quote:
Originally Posted by luvofallhorses
Ok now. We know it's not her doing and we know she has tried why can't we leave it be?
Sure she backtracked a few times but as far as I know the stories are at least consistant.
Yes most dogs should be inside dogs but not all can/want to be. Some dogs really do prefer it outside. I've actually known people that went as far as hiring personal trainers & behavorists to get their dog accustomed to living inside & months & months later and hundreds & hundreds of dollars later it still didn't work.
Besides it is better than being in a kill shelter or an always outside home, or an abused home or being used for fighting or whatnot.
And she even brings her inside when it rains, storms or gets cold old. Thats a lot more than most people with "outside" dogs will do.
NO OFFENSE but as an example ONLY, look at glacier, she's got 22, some come in some don't. Sure they are husky's but look at other husky's that live inside, weather they work or not. You don't see us hounding her and she's even an adult that can make the decision to have them all inside.
Is there no way to leave Roxy outside unchained? I have seen dogs become used to living outside, and, don't enjoy being indoors. But, dogs are adaptive creatures, they get to used to a lot of things that aren't necessarily good. But, at this point, she probably does prefer to stay outside. Is your yard fenced or anything? Or could a dog kennel be put up? One that would allow her to be chain free...her water and food could be kept in there and her dog house, as well. Does her dog house have a wind blocking device or flap or something over the door? That would help keep it a little drier and warmer if there isn't one. I realize that getting her indoors all the time isn't going to happen, and as long as you give her shelter and enough exercise and love and food and water, then, she's got it better than a lot of other dogs. That doesn't mean I'm agreeing with the situation. Just trying to come up with other ideas...So, what do you guys do with her when she does come inside for bad weather?
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Originally Posted by lv4dogs
Well said, including the part I didn't quote. I agree with you. The only difference in Glacier's dogs and Roxy is that Glacier does exercise her dogs a lot and they are not chained up, as far as I know. Most of them get to run off leash a lot, and, the ones that don't, (again, from what I can tell) get exercised alongside her bike. And, of course, most of them pull a sled at some point, too...Now, her situation is different than most, in that she has a lot of land and she has sled dogs. :)
As long as Roxy gets walked more, that would make me feel a little better about her situation.
We dont have a fence :( and We cant buil d a kennel bcus we dont own the land or house...her dog house does not have a window flap, although i think i can convince my mom to get one, when she comes inside, she stays in our laundry room, with newspaper down, (its a small room) with her water bowl...then in the morning i take her out to pee, because she refuses to poop inside, and then she'll be chained if the weather is good, if not she will be taken back into the laundry roomQuote:
Originally Posted by finn's mom
EDIT if i dont reply asap its because im bathing tink
Ok, I gotcha. Well, the best you can do, then, is just make sure she has a good, comfortable collar and chain...and, just do your best as far as giving her the attention she needs and the exercise she needs. And, for a window flap, it doesn't have to be fancy, just a piece of flimsy plastic that you can probably find somewhere and just nail it to the top of the opening of the dog house. It just has to be something that she can push easily with her nose...even just a towel or blanket over it would be better than nothing. And, be sure to keep blankets and old towels in there with her when it's cooler. Can she always access her dog house while chained? I'm not angry at you, I hope you know that, and, when you're done bathing Tink, you should walk Roxy. ;) Just try not to forget she's there, sometimes that can happen when you have a new puppy, especially when she's allowed indoors and the other isn't. Good luck with everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13
Well, I've just seen this, and I think it's going too far....
I'm sure that Roxy is in perfect conditions, although it would be much better to let her being inside or at least chain free. I'm sure Briana loves Roxy and wants the best for her, but she should try to find a solution to this.
I think this is a really stupid discussion now, there's nothing more to say. The next time, maybe we should try to understand the person before attacking.
And Briana, you dont need to give more excuses. Everything is said. Now, you should try to do the best you can for your pets.
Yes she sure does exercise her dogs more. But I think they before the fence was built a lot of them were chained, and I *think* she still has 1 or 2 or 3 that are still chained, or at least were up until a month or so ago. Unless they were old pictures she posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by finn's mom
No offense to you either but the fact of the size of land & the fact they are sled dogs does not matter. The fact that they get more exercise matters but not because they are sled dogs or the size of their yard. If you can exercise a dog right then the size doesn't matter becuase the dog is already exercised.
I do agree that the least she can do is exercise her dog daily and not weekly though.
Well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by Anita Cholaine