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:D I just saw this - probably a repeat....but the first man goes in the basket and this little dog is running all around....then the last man gets into a basket and a rescuer leans down, picks up the little dog - maybe a doxie.. and hands him the dog:D I was so afraid to see the dog left but they sent him up too:DQuote:
Originally posted by momoffuzzyfaces
Just now they pulled two men AND THEIR DOG! off a roof. I was so afraid they'd leave the dog there.
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We saw that one - it was actually a little chocolate-and-tan chihuahua! I kept thinking - "Okay, get the dog, c'mon, get the dog" and they did! :) :)
Me too Karen - I was talking to the TV:D As far as the dog....I got the "little" part right:rolleyes: It was a cute little thing;)Quote:
Originally posted by Karen
We saw that one - it was actually a little chocolate-and-tan chihuahua! I kept thinking - "Okay, get the dog, c'mon, get the dog" and they did! :) :)
Now, this one has me confused: there has been an elderly lady talking to Fox news asking for help. She was in her home and said she had food and water but stayed for her elderly dog. They asked if she would leave if they got help to her and she said yes if she could bring her dog too.
Enter Geraldo to the rescue: lady saved - she had no food or water - no mention on if the dog was saved too.
However: HOW DID SHE CALL IN TO FOX NEWS SINCE SHE HAD NO PHONE SERVICE? :confused:
They were airing the conversations with her, sure sounded like she was talking to them on a phone to me.
Rusty the dog and the woman were saved by Geraldo,
I take back all the bad things I said about him.
:rolleyes:
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Anderson Cooper and Christiane Amanpour were on CNN
telling eveyone there was no phone service at all.
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THIS STORY aired on Friday night.
A man rode out the storm but his neighbors drowned.
The neighbor's body was left ourside in the yard.
There was another neighbor a few doors down who also survived.
They left the body in the yard...they then waited two days for the fire department to come and remove the body-
Their complaint?
They took too long to get there to remove the body...
:rolleyes:
I just saw Geraldo saving the elderly lady and her elderly dog too. But they are now showing a downed Coast Guard helicopter. I think everybody is alive but there are injuries.
What's this about some contractors being killed on the bridge? I heard the cops shot them? If true, how awful.
O.K. well NOW they're saying it's a civilian helicopter AND contractors were not killed (but the people who were shooting at them).
The media is jumping to conclusions or making assumptions BEFORE proof is presented. The downed helicopter was a civilian craft. There were 2 civilians on board and they both survived with minor cuts/bruises. It was a Coast Guard helicopter that came to the rescue. The cause of the crash was unknown. However, the news media Presented Speclative information and tried to "correlate" the location of the shooting to the location of the helicopter. There were 5-6 gun men who had opened gun fire on Core Engineer workers. The police returned fire and killed the shooters. Why the gang was shooting at the workers is still unkown.
I first saw the pictures of the downed helicopter and assumed it was a coast guard one as well at first. The reporter stated it was one. I took a closer look and it didn't match a typical Coast Guard helicopter or have it's markings. About 5 minutes after that, they announced it was civillian.
That got me even more furiated at the press!:mad: There doesn't seem to be anymore "Professional Journalist" anymore. Is it just me or is there a decline in journalism? A professional journalist should provide the pictures but offer no exact details until officials report it. A cause of this helicopter crash can't be determined until the FAA makes a determination. NOT the press!
I say give us a media break!!! Let the pictures say the words not the paid cut throat journalist out to make a name for themselves. I can't stand one more journalist expressing opinions and then saying "but that isn't confirmed...." They put the "elephant" in the room and leave it:rolleyes: Quite frankly, I am tired of picking up Elephant dung!!! No wonder the government gives away cheese! They are trying to attract mice to scare the elephant's away!!!:p
They always like to show the bad side of people. i think its because most people are more interested in the bad than good.
Not me.
A WHACK! upside head for the media for every time they ask someone a question or their opinion or what they experienced then keep either butting in before they can tell their story or butting in and saying, "thanks but we have to go now!" (read: somethinge more interesting is happening than YOUR story/opinion)!!!! GRRRRRRRR!!!!
They are saying now that the chopper than is down is an animal rescue chopper. JUST GREAT!!! AS IF THE POOR ANIMALS AREN'T HAVING A BAD ENOUGH TIME, THEY LOSE ONE OF THE ONLY HELPS THEY HAVE IN THIS MESS!:(
One news report stated that none of the levees were compromised.
how true is that??? I don't know....but it was also reported that the flood channel collapse was partly to blame for the flooding.
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I was watching Gen. Honore's walking among the troops and public.
This guy rocks.
There were trucks loaded with cops and soldiers passing by where he was standing.
There was no audio playing at the time....
He was motioning to his troops and the cops to secure their weapons.....He yelled at one cop to drop the barrel of his rifle down..the cop, a little stunned did as the Gen. said....
He also was giving instructions to another soldier and asked him, "Can you do this???" The soldier said, "Yes".
Honore then told him, "You are the man!!"
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Honore also did a face to face with some dip sh-- reporter
who asked him about the dead bodies that were scattered around the area.
The reporter challeneged him about the people complaining about the dbs...
Honore said that he had to choose between the living and the dead....
"What would YOU do???" He challeneged the reporter.....
They cut the interview at that point and showed clips of the city.
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As horrible as this whole event is, it is a wakeup call to America as to what the rest of the planet goes thru during a disaster.
We are spoiled by INSTANT everything.
We are spoiled by picking up a phone and calling for help.
We are spoiled by not having to get off our lazy arses and getting things done.
We even order our pizza over the internet...I know, I do.....
That is the story that the media should cover.....
Just how spoiled, lazy and whiny some of the people of America are..
America is a great place.....It's some of the people that screw it up.
:rolleyes:
An interesting article on FEMA's lack of response.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...home-headlines
Only one problem with that article. It lays the blame for FEMA budget cuts on the administration. Congress, NOT the President, writes and approves the budget. Congress also wrote and aproved the legislation creating DHS and folding FEMA into the DHS.
The vote in the Senate was 90-9 in favor of the bill. The House vote was 295-132. Evidently Congress, regardless of it's current carping, thought it was a good idea, and with the incumbency rate well above 90% I'd be fairly comfortable with the assumption that those who are carping about the state of FEMA now voted in favor of the Bill.
Are you saying that a Republican (this time) President has
no influence or leadership role in getting legislation (from a majority Republican ) House & Senate passed?
Yes,I agree...That new General (3stars,I believe)
Honore...Is the Man to watch...He is the New Patton...
He Stepped In and Took Control.....Thats' what the Sick,Injured,hungry,tired and elderly needed.....
They could not overpower the FEW Uneducated that the media focused on...and ultimately blew out of control..
He Is The Man of this Disaster...Bush can fly in and shake hands as much as he wants...
Gen.Honore Made Things HAPPEN in New Orleans,and restored order...so Rescue Could begin
We Thank You Gen. Honore
I agree that he is awesome! I was watching him a bit this morning. Good that someone could get the job done.
Richard, I love it when he put that reporter in his place. I can't stand the press!
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Are you saying that a Republican (this time) President has no influence or leadership role in getting legislation (from a majority Republican ) House & Senate passed?
Liz,
Not at all. What I am saying is that the DHS Bill passed by a large majority, much larger than a party-line vote. There were more than the 50+ Republican Senators and 220+ Republican Congressmen who voted in favor of it. If the vote was close, the case could be made that the white house strongarmed the legislation through. That's not the case here, 88 democrats voted for it in the house, and 30+ voted for it in the senate.
You also forgot to notice that Senator Lott has a home in Mississippi as does several other senators/representatives.:cool: Hmm, I wonder if a disaster bill would get signed faster when the majority leader owns a house in the area affected?:rolleyes: :p
Aha, the local fishwrap here....Quote:
Originally posted by lizbud
An interesting article on FEMA's lack of response.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...home-headlines
The Los Angeles Times is great.
Should you read it in the bathroom, like I do, it distracts you from the methane produced!
It all comes down to money.
Everyone (you and I) don't want to pay taxes, so wer strong arm our legislators and get pissed off when the special interest groups get their hooks into their skin.
If we all payed attention there would be no crooked politicians, we only have ourselves to blame
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There was a few stories tonight on the telly.
One was of a woman who was working at Walmart, 4 days after she was stranded next to the Superdome.. Walmart offered positions to all employees who lost their jobs in the storm,
Another story was of a woman who was relocated to Houston...
what was she doing her third or fourth day there?
Riding the bus lines looking for the place where she was going to start her new life over.
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and then there was the woman who called a local El Lay radio station to lament the fact that her daugther's first year of law school was ruined because of the hurricane.
The gal escaped to Shreveport, Louisiana with her roommate.
Both were attending Temple Uni (????)
Three states got kicked in the crotch and this woman was worried about her daughter's career as a lawyer.
She probably wouldn't graduate in time to take part in the lawsuits against FEMA and the government....
An opportunity wasted....:rolleyes: :eek:
Yes,I saw those stories....Grrr!! Not to All of them,Just that one
:eek: You can order pizza over the INTERNET?Quote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
We even order our pizza over the internet...I know, I do.....
If General Honore ever runs for President, he's got my vote no matter who runs against him. :D
MOFF< you can order pizza pretty much anywhere. We had a Domino's at Fort hood that would deliver to anywhere in the training areas.
More on media coverage.....
For all the hits FEMA and the Bush Administration have been taking, mull this over for a minute:
It has been known for DECADES that the NO levees couldn't take the hit that Katrina gave them. Instead of funding the levees, we have Interstate highways to nowwhere (WV and AK), federally funded trailers for lawnmower racers, and a new tunnel in Boston, among other federally funded boondoggles. (yes, I know the big dig alleviated traffic, but at $22 Billion and still counting?)
Also:
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco declared a state of emergency on Friday before the storm hit. But she waited until Tuesday to order New Orleans evacuated. President Bush had called her before the storm hit and urged her to force an evacuation, but she chose not to. The only mandatory evacuation order was given by the mayor the day before Katrina hit, and he lacked the resources to enforce it. The first buses did not arrive at the Superdome until Wednesday.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency deserves a great deal of criticism for its inability to cope with the disaster. But The Washington Post reported last week that FEMA's standard emergency plan "advises state and local emergency managers not to expect federal aid for 72 to 96 hours, and base their own preparedness efforts on the need to be self-sufficient for at least that period."
http://www.theunionleader.com/articl...?article=60048
Local and state disaster administrators are indeed given that warning. It was re-iterated to the state of LA during a FEMA drill in 2004 not to expect aid for that period of time.
The Governor could have ordered the LA national guard in, but she waited. The mayor could have ordered the fleet of 2000 schood buses to be used for the evactuation, but he didn't. State and local disaster agencies KNOW they have to have plans in place to cover the time between the disaster and the time federal help arrives, obviously they failed.
Instead of pointing the finger at everyone, the media chooses to blame the Bush administration.
The media has had it's nose out of joint ever since the election. I'm surprised they aren't blaming the hurricane on the Bush administration. Probably will, as soon as they can figure out how to do it. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Lady's Human
Instead of pointing the finger at everyone, the media chooses to blame the Bush administration.
Bush calls for an investigation into the slow response of
Government.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/n...ashington.html
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Originally posted by momoffuzzyfaces
:eek: You can order pizza over the INTERNET?
If General Honore ever runs for President, he's got my vote no matter who runs against him. :D
I am a freaking lazy American....I know these things.
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Make that TWO votes.
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Twice I have heard this news report on the USS Bataan..
It was being pushed into dock by a tug yesterday.....
That it was capable of holding 600 patients and capable of distilling 10,000 gallons of water per day.
It was also reported that the ship rode out the storm in 14 foot waves but wasn't able to contribute to the evacuation/assistance effort because no orders were given to the captain of the ship.
Hmmmmmmmmmm...
http://www.bataan.navy.mil/
Check out the updated site and tell me how effed up the media is.....By the way, Ted Koeppel was the newscaster who first reported that the Bataan was floating around the Gulf with nowhere to go and nothing to do.....
The Bataan has a 600 bed hospital? DAMN, those marines get all the good toys......damned seagoing bellhops.
For a ship that had gptten no orders, it sounds like they've been damned busy.
Actually the Bataan is a smaller version of an Navy aircraft carrier.Quote:
Originally posted by Lady's Human
The Bataan has a 600 bed hospital? DAMN, those marines get all the good toys......damned seagoing bellhops.
For a ship that had gptten no orders, it sounds like they've been damned busy.
It has the capability to take care of 600 wounded/injured people.
Typical jarheads, put them on a boat and they'll do anything to get back on land.;)
I have another gripe about the disaster coverage.
It's the grossout factor.
The Superdome is a huge stadium.
They have tons of plastic bags and cleaning supplies.
Why was everyone going to the bathroom all over the place???
HAD ANYONE thought of putting some plastic bags into trash cans and setting up a system to isolate the human waste?
This reaffirms the theory that the nastiest filthiest creatures on earth are HUMANS:eek: :rolleyes: !!! Think about it... All other animals do have a built in "clean up system". Have you ever been to the jungle and seen "trash" thrown about? Not by the animals!!! How about the ocean? There are billions of animals living in the sea, yet it can be clean and fresh!!!
Humans truly are the MOST unhygenic creatures. We throw about waste and create more of it.:o We couldn't keep ourselves clean without water! The apes atleast pick and eat bugs out of eachothers hairs. There is even a fish that cleans a shark!!! Humans just become crustier and nastier without a bath.
This disaster has shown just how much "nastier" us humans are to are animal counterparts. Once the the city's are evacuated, let's watch what the other animals will do to them. I am sure they would be cleaned up and picked dry if we let a small zoo loose in the places!!!
By the way Richard, Jarheads go to land to sea - legs!!! :rolleyes: :D Get it? Sea-legs!!! on boat long-time...get sea-legs... :cool: :p
The Hispanic media has jumped upon the bandwagon in bashing the U.S.
Now, I am an American-Mexican, so I can play the race card here.
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I saw one interview about how these people, who are citizens of the U.S., were not given any assistance by FEMA because the are hispanic.
Their residence was flooded so they said that they 'placed a call to FEMA' and were denied help.
LIke FEMA is gonna run down to their driveway and help them out?
The charge? racism....They hung up on them...
The other story concerned the illegal aliens who are running around making the same allegations.
Of course, they are avoiding any contact with any officials because the are afraid of being deported. The US customs service
does have men in the area and these people think it's a plot to round them up....
I think that we have better things to do at the moment that to check your papers.:rolleyes:
What papers? I thought they would have been lost in the flood? :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
I think that we have better things to do at the moment that to check your papers.:rolleyes:
Won't be able to tell an illegal from a legal resident now, I should think.
Gee Whiz: no wonder things were such a mess when the disaster hit: right now Fox News is interviewing the Govenor of LA. The Mayor of NO says everyone MUST leave, no matter what, they will be forced to go. The Govenor is saying NO. The water will be tested first to see if it's contaminated.
HELLO GOVENOR!!! CAN YOU SAY SEWAGE AND DEAD BODIES!!! :eek:
By the way, the tests are back on the water this morning. The water is only contaminated 10% above the highest safe level. Don't think I'd care to use it! :eek:
I am not enamoured of the fact that reporters are 'Making the news" not reporting it.
David Jackson did a report on a rescue last night.
A man was rescued but was not allowed to take the black Lab, that did not belong to him, with him.
After his report the TV station was flooded (no pun intended) with calls about the dog.
Jackson and his crew went back, in the dead of night and rescued the dog.
Jackson said they will try to find the owners, if not she was coming to Lost Angeles to be homed with one of the crew members.
The dogs new name??
Katrina.:D
does anyone know much about the coast guard vice admiral who's 'helping' out in NO? heard his interview on npr this am, it sounds as tho there will be some changes made asap. GO GUARD!!!
My mother was reading in the English Tabloid that an English couple were caught up in it and were in the superdome, they said it was Hell on Earth, a young girl was raped and then later killed, they were saying it was going on all the time, and they did not dare close their eyes for fear of being killed, I really don't know whether it is true or not, but if so this is shocking.
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Originally posted by carole
, I really don't know whether it is true or not, but if so this is shocking.
Wait until you get a load of the two mutilated bodies they showed on the news tonight....there was another pic of two bodies in a wheel chair that they deemed too graphic to show...
All in New ORleans
You know, I wonder if they realize the houses they checked that were under water will need to be rechecked?? Some of them have a big x near the attic part. Maybe some people couldn't get that high and are dead in the lower part of the house. :(Quote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
Wait until you get a load of the two mutilated bodies they showed on the news tonight....there was another pic of two bodies in a wheel chair that they deemed too graphic to show...
All in New ORleans
Doesn't seem to be a whole lot of thinking going on on any level for this disaster.
I saw the pics of the floating bodies. Totally uncalled for! :(
it's all the same people who want to bring us the flag draped coffins of the soldiers...:mad:Quote:
Originally posted by momoffuzzyfaces
I saw the pics of the floating bodies. Totally uncalled for! :(
BREAKING NEWS:
Michael Brown has just been removed from FEMA.
well that will help all the people affected.Quote:
Originally posted by momoffuzzyfaces
BREAKING NEWS:
Michael Brown has just been removed from FEMA.