Kay , you took the words exactly out of my mouth.
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Kay , you took the words exactly out of my mouth.
Although I think the tone of the question was rather belligerant, I do think it is a valid one. I have to say I fall somewhere along the middle.
As much as I love my pets, in many ways they are luxery items. The amount I spend on food, grooming, toys, training etc highly depends on the amount I am willing and able to spend on them. They and the care they receive are directly related to the amount of extra money I have around at the end of the month after paying my bills, not unlike the money I spend I on entertainment and nonessentials. Although the money spent on their care and upkeep may have become essential, initially when I chose to acquire them they were not neccessary to my living. Also, although I am happy to provide them homes and to have rescued from the shelter, they are mainly in my possession because they provide me with happiness. After all, why would I have pets if they didn't make me happy?
I do honestly think it's a little silly when very wealthy people (including celebrities) spend thousands on silly things for their animals, like diamond studded collars and fancy beds. My pets don't have the best, most expensive food or litter box or collar. My purchasing decisions are based on quality versus price.
To be honest, I also sometimes cringe when an animal has suffered from tremendous abuse and there are these huge rewards to find the perpetrator. Unless they are from wealthy or famous background, there are just so many children out there who are raped and abused and nothing is done about it.
Also, although there are many people who are poor because in some ways they "deserve it" whether it be because of drugs, or alcohol or even lack of determination [I especially can't stand it when people who can't even support themselves, proceede to have a bunch of kids], there are just so many people who are stuggling to improve their situation but are unable to. People who are working 2 to 3 jobs and are still living from pay check to pay check, making it impossible to get ahead. And it's often hard to get benefits because a lot of jobs require you to work full time and then schedule all employees under 40 hrs a week.
I do think it is a social responsibility to help the less fortunate, and I feel very guilty because I live a rather selfish lifestyle and do not do nearly enough. HOWEVER, I am inclined to feel much less guilty about the money I spend on animals, than the money I spend on clothes, going out, my computer and my fancy high speed internet connection. The amount of money I have spent on clothes, electronics and travel would probably have helped a lot of people, and I think that as far as sacrifices I should make, those are the ones that should be a priority.
Now i have to ask a question WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THAT ON A SITE THAT IS ABOUT PETS ?
Now a few other things to ask you
1- do you pay for my animals?
2- do you pay for the care and food of my animals?
3- Why should i feel oglagated to support people who can get a job themselves.
4- Last but not least if your not paying my bills and my animal cost then WHY would you say what i should do with my moeny that i word for
Weather i choose to help people that are starving or animals what diffence does it really make to you?
Sorry if i'm alittle harsh here but i really think that comment was'nt a smart one
You've said EXACTLY what was on my mind! ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Den Anne Pen
Now i have to ask a question WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THAT ON A SITE THAT IS ABOUT PETS ?
Now a few other things to ask you
1- do you pay for my animals?
2- do you pay for the care and food of my animals?
3- Why should i feel oglagated to support people who can get a job themselves.
4- Last but not least if your not paying my bills and my animal cost then WHY would you say what i should do with my moeny that i word for
Weather i choose to help people that are starving or animals what diffence does it really make to you?
Sorry if i'm alittle harsh here but i really think that comment was'nt a smart one
I can't even add to it...perfect!!
I think this person's intentions were to get a conversation started by throwing out a bold statement. I think their profile shows indicates that English may not be their first language. My opinion was that they just wanted to get a conversation started not to cause problems. I wish everyone would assume that a person's intention is innocent before slamming them.
That may be all well and good, but somebody who throws out comments like that should also expect the same right back at them.Quote:
Originally posted by kuhio98
My opinion was that they just wanted to get a conversation started not to cause problems.
Furthermore, if all that was being done is starting a conversation, only to find such a negitive respone, then he/she shouldn't come back and continue to enrage this freindly comminuty with comments like:'Ey, Vampire87. this isn't a board for social issues, its a board for Pet Owners.Quote:
i only want to talk about some social problems. why r u angry with me, everything i said that true. u can agree or disagree with it.
Dufuss.
^ This is also the doghouse, which I though was for controversial subjects.
:confused:
But this was not originally posted in the dog house it was posted in general where if would get the most views and most responses. I think there was a reason for posting it there. It was moved here from it's original place.Quote:
Originally posted by jackie
^ This is also the doghouse, which I though was for controversial subjects.
:confused:
OH i just read vamp.87 profile and did'nt relize he/she was a kid i thought this comment was coming from an adult.
Although i still stick behind what i have said i do also
relize that he/she has'nt really expericenced life or work as an adult and does not know the value of moeny you work for so a comment like that can be expected from a kid :)
thank you very much,Den Anne Pen. i read some profiles and i see nobody agree with me. I'm 18 years old, and i'm learning English. Therefore very difficult for me to reply some ideas. If i said wrong anything, sorry...:( :( :(
:( Hi, sorry if everybody just got a little angry its just that we are all pet lovers and we got a little offended.I can see you are only trying to create conversation and that you are also very sorry if you offended anybody. And everybody he was only trying to create conversation, just didnt exactly know how,besides he owns a cat and a dog, which means he is probably on our side, he just tried to show the other point of view!!You just started on the wrong foot, lets start again....
Hi, i think a good reason for keeping and spendig on pets is because it is our responsibility to look after them, we are the ones who destroyed their habitat in the first place.
Besides they are probably more loving than humans and......I could go on for ever.
Noe everybody i think we should give him another chance!!!
:) :)
Ok, I just think we should take care of animals and people...but most of the time, it's out of our control to take care of people...but not animals, and animals need our help too!! They're totally helpless really (especially strays and homeless animals) and depend on us. And homeless people have NOTHING to do with our animals and pets, ok??!! We're talking about animals, not people here!!! Ok, I'm done talking!