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Thanks Gina!
I was sort of wondering where you had been, you didn't post:p:D
I guess that Alex gets quite a bit of human food (chicken and such) soooo, that is what is causing my problems..She is so skinny (healthy) and I can't understand how?? She must not be getting as much human food as I thought then.
Steph and Jes
hey stephanie -- any more lucks? tell us an update!
I think you did great!!! probably more patience than I have.. :rolleyes: I'm really glad this is going well and am proud of you! :D I use martingale because my crayola is a service dog and trainings never finishes! ;)
gina, I'm curious..
do you only use martingale for walking or you do use it for general training sessions too?
..gina :)
Well, last Wednesday, I missed her, I was at church:( I have bought a cheap walking harness that works pretty good!
She knows sit and does it every time I tell her to, so, we will work on lay down now. Tomorrow is the next session, SO, I will see how much she has remembered...
Steph and Jes
Gina, I only use the Martingale for walking, Jasmine is a Golden mix and I don't want her fur to get caught up in the chain on the Martingale collar. I have both collars on her when we walk and then clip it her regular collar when we are finished and take both leash and Martingale collar off.
Stehphanie, what are you going to work on with Alex tomorrow?
can't wait to hear new news tomorrow! good luck, stephanie.
interesting, gina.. I have a golden, and never had a problem with that. I too, take off once we get into house so he can sleep, snuggle all he want!
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Stehphanie, what are you going to work on with Alex tomorrow?
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..so, we will work oon lay down now.
Have just read entire thread and Steph you have inspired me to work a lot harder on training my own dog........the advice you've been given has been so practical and reading how well you have been doing with your Aunt's dog is simply amazing.......
you have all enforced that a well trained dog is a happy dog
I am glad that this thread has helped more than one person:) Also it is very true, a well trained dog is a happy dog. They feel more useful in life. If you have any questions on training your dog, feel free to post it here! I know that everyone has helped me SO much!Quote:
Have just read entire thread and Steph you have inspired me to work a lot harder on training my own dog........the advice you've been given has been so practical and reading how well you have been doing with your Aunt's dog is simply amazing.......
you have all enforced that a well trained dog is a happy dog
As for tonight, we had a severe thunderstorm, so, we had one of the first lessons inside. I kept her walking leash on her, to teach her not to run in the house. We also worked on lay down! I am so impressed with her! She has all most come to knowing lay down perfectly! It is amazing how smart Alex is!!!! For the lay down, I had to use doggy treats, they had bought a different type, so it worked! Now, she sits before she lays down. I don't give her the treat when she sits, but when she lays down I do. I just say happily<"Good Girl Alex!" when she sits...Is that enough?
Thank you all so much! We have also improved on Andy (her youngest owner) not being a chew toy, and Any has promised that he will walk her. He sort of forgot the harness was there, and was too scared to walk her!
Thank you everyone for keeping up with this, and Brody's Mum, good luck!
Steph and Jes
Thanks! Tobey is quite a bright dog so he has already got the hang of "sit", sitting and waiting at the kerb and very nearly mastered the art of "stay". This morning he did "lie down" 3 times in a row but I think that was more coincidence than my training skills ;)Quote:
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and Brody's Mum, good luck!
Will continue working on that one but also want to teach him not to jump up at people when they come visiting and to stop chasing Brody!!! Finding it quite exciting to have my very own dog to train :D
By far the most successful command I have taught His Woofship is the "lie-in" - Sundays mornings he and I sneak back to bed for a snooze :D
It really depends on what you want. My dog downs from a standing position. I didn't want to have the extra step of sitting first in there, eventually she will do agility and I don't want to add the extra time.Quote:
Now, she sits before she lays down. I don't give her the treat when she sits, but when she lays down I do. I just say happily<"Good Girl Alex!" when she sits...Is that enough?
Are you using a clicker in your training?
If you want I can tell how to eliminate the sit before she downs.
steph! it seems alex did well with serve thunderstorms! from all of this successful news you shared, I'm sure alex will be one pro in no time! ;)
"is that enough...?" - I never realized/noticed if my crayola downs with/without sitting first, and I just tried that, he would just down first. but you got me to think I should teach him 'stand'! when he comes to me, he just automically sits down..lol. he also understands 'up' as of sitting up. did you want him to not sit before going down?
gina, can you summarize how anyway? even though I never trained him that, I'm curious.
hope this is okay with you, steph... brody's mum, I have a question, tobey likes to chase brody when guests come or just does that sometimes with guests?
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gina, can you summarize how anyway? even though I never trained him that, I'm curious
I train with a clicker (and I love it) what I do is wait for the dog to lay down (clicker trainiers call it capturing) and when the dog lays down <click> and give a treat. I throw the treat so the dog has to get up, then I wait and when they lay down <click> and give a treat. I don't say anything I am just waiting for the dog to offer the behavior. The dog my be going from a sit to a down which is ok, once they are relibly going to a down, I start clicking only for a down, not a down from a sit.
If you don't train with a clicker or don't want to you can teach down from a stand by holding a treat in front of the dogs nose and going straight down. This might take several attempts so don't give up. Say "good" when they lay down and give a treat from your other hand, in a way that makes the dog have to get up. Repeat again.
Don't say down until you have the down (behavior) you want. They say once you name the behavior that is what you will get.
I hope this helps.
Sorry, wasn't clear -these are two separate issues I want to tackle. He always chases poor Brody and always jumps up at visitors! I'm sorting that one out by putting him on a short lead before I answer the door so I am in control of him. I was thinking of using the same kind of tactic to stop him chasing the cat (might use his extendable lead so he can still roam around the living room) - he does know he is wrong to do this because once the cat is upstairs Tobey comes straight back downQuote:
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hope this is okay with you, steph... brody's mum, I have a question, tobey likes to chase brody when guests come or just does that sometimes with guests?
Well, I just heard some very bad news about Alex..They are giving up on her, she got away and they got her from the pound, and then she bit my uncle. I am going to tlak to them about this, and say that I need more training time, and this will all be solved. Any suggestions on what to do? I am so dissapointed.:( we got this far in three sessions, just a few more and she will be better.
Please, I really need help! I adore Alex, and they don't know how intelligent and nice she is..How do I show them this?
Thank you for any suggestions..
Steph and Jes
Oh Steph - I do hope you can persuade them to give Alex another chance, she was doing so well.
Great news about the hedgepig!
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Well, I just heard some very bad news about Alex..They are giving up on her, she got away and they got her from the pound, and then she bit my uncle. I am going to tlak to them about this, and say that I need more training time, and this will all be solved. Any suggestions on what to do? I am so dissapointed. we got this far in three sessions, just a few more and she will be better
I hate to say this but if they are not willing to put in the time to train and reinforce what you have taught her then she will never learn. Perhaphs you can take her and she can live with you? I know it's a lot to ask of you and your parents but its so sad that the dog has to lose in the end. People do not understand that a dog is just not born knowing the rules, they have to be taught and shown just like children do. If your child acts out you don't just to give it away you deal with it and do better in displining (training). If your aunt decides on another dog prehaps an older more mature dog would be a better fit.
Unless you can find someone to take Alex or you take her I doubt you can change your aunts mind, even if you did change it it would probably only be until the next time Alex did something wrong.
Young dogs need a lot of attention, training, stimulation and exercise everyday.
You have done a great thing helping out with Alex. I'm sorry things have come to this.
Gina, I would LOVE to have Alex, unfortunately my mom hates her and my sisters are scared of her. One day Alex had decided to tackle Syrie and started to mouth her whole face. Syrie wasn't hurt and Alex was just playing, but my mom thought that Alex was tearing Syrie apart by the way she was screaming. Ever since that, my mom has NEVER and will never trust her. If I can, I want to find a good her for her in the country where she can get more excersize, and will be loved.
I hope that I can convince them that I can get Alex through this..She really needs an understanding home. I really think that the problem is that they have a 13 yr old dog who needs to be put down, so if they do get another dog, it will be ignored and untrained, unless I jump in right away. They just can't spend the $150 fine to get her out of the pound, and with her biting her master (which was the first time she has ever bit) I think thta she deserves another chance.....
Wish me luck as I try to talk to them, my aunt and her son really do love Alex, but, it is my uncle who is the problem..
Steph and Jes
I have GREAT news! My aunt and I were talking on the phone, and she knew how sad Andy and I would be if they got rid of Alex. She is giving Alex another chance, despite of whta her husband says:) I am so happy!-and I can't wait until tomorrow for the training session!:D:D
Steph and Jes
That is great news about Alex. Just remind that training is an ongoing process. The more time and effort put into the greater the return. I have a 1year old Golden Retriever that I have been training since I got her at 13 weeks old and she is still not a fully trained dog, is she better than when I got her yes, better than a month ago yes, but I do some sort of training every single day. It can be as simple as sitting for food or and complex as learning the weave poles for agility.
Great job with Alex. What are your training plans for tomorrow?
Does Alex have a Kong to keep her busy and entertained?
I have known that for a long time! lol! Even before I jumped in, I heard that she was part Dalmatain, and I knew that it would take EVEN longer to train her!Quote:
Just remind that training is an ongoing process. The more time and effort put into the greater the return.
Yes, she does have basic training every day, with sit. She sits before they do anything with her! Food, being pet, an occasional treat, going outside, etc.
As for the kong, she LOVES her socks. They are old socks that we play tiug-of-war with. She addores them so much! We take breaks quite often!
As for tomorrow, we are still going to work on lay down, house manners, and walking. I don't know if you have seen, but I bought her a walking harness, and it works like a charm!
Steph and Jes
Yay!! that's great news
argh! I keep on thought you were talking to me... no, other gina! :p sorry, I clicked "unsubscribed all threads" last week and just remember this now. :o
thanks gina!! yes I thought so, the last instruction is whati would do. I can't really have/train with a clicker, I need an empty hand because my golden doesn't take verbal commands at all.
allright steph! I'll blab all I want. :p ;)
brody's, maybe you already know this...I'll go ahead and type. the best thing you can do for tobey is to have leash on when guests come in, do a few quick flicks until he sits down by 'sit' command. once he sits down, treat(s)/praise!! over again & again....meaning a lot of guests/friends. (hard for you to do yourself because you're his attentive owner).. meanwhile he sits, it's best to not have anyone pet/talk to him for a few minutes so he can take time to calm down and understand that people wouldn't want to come to him if he gets too excitied. do that a few time perhaps, then without leash, with a command. this could help with tobey's behavior of chasing brody off a little bit. let's start with guest-sit trick. grand luck, brody's mum.
now,...steph, I read the whole thing about pound, bite & her skinfamily. . I don't think this is really fair for you. will they really take their time and train her too. (trainings never finish!) are you gonna train her forever or just for a couple of weeks? I ask that because if it's just for a couple of weeks, I can feel that when you get back to her in a long run, she'll be back to the same ol' alex. I think it's best if alex's owners train with you! so alex can have "transitition" in case anything happens, you know? it's her owners' fully responsibility though! poor you girl...lol. well, you saw what happened, you trained her very well but not to bit an uncle! I think gina ('s effort) also means more effort from alex's owners! they can't let her jump while you're not there too, etc. alex must have her constant rules to make a big progress... (oh my, I yakked!) :D
whatever happens, many lucks!
hugs,
..gina
Gina, actually, I have found out that they are having mini training sessions every day!:D I was so excited, they even took her on a walk:eek: Since I bought that new harness, they have been doing more with her because they can control her now! i was thinking the same thing though Gina (Gina's Ark Inc.)!
As for last night, the training session went very good! She was a little hyper at first, but then she got her usual walk...and Shari went online to get more info on what to do...They might even buy a muzzle (it is nylon, and it is from Dr. Foster and Smith!) This is just for when Alex is around little kids, or on walks, and when she is unsupervised. IF they buy it though.
I am very pleased on how well they are keeping up for a busy family. Unfortunately, only two members even pay attention, and that is Shari and her son Andy. SO, they both are with me while we train..
Thanks for keeping up everyone! Alex is still learning "lay down" though. She isn't catching on quite as fast, she keeps thinking that it means sit.
Steph, Jes, and Splinter
That's great!:) I'm glad it's going so well.
It might help to try getting her to sit first then from there down, it's usually much easier. Going from standing to down is much more difficult to teach until they know what "Down" is. Use some food to get her down and say "Down". Once she's there, step on the leash close to the collar (not so close that it pulls unless she tries to get up). Only hold for a couple of seconds initially then release and praise, slowly work your way up to longer times. ;)
Thanks for the info pnance, it is much appreciated! I will try that next session!:)
Steph, Jesse, and Splinter