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I know what you mean. It's really hard for me to understand how all of my "girl friends" can be so beautiful and like someone homely like me! :eek: LOLQuote:
Originally posted by neko1
Not at all. I've never seen myself as beautiful. I have low self esteem too. I also have a hard time accepting any compliment(but they are few and far between anyway). It also doesn't help being good friends with a girl who's constantly told that she's pretty, guys always look at her and try to pick her up:rolleyes: Thank god I already have a man or I'd be really depressed!
I'm like the stereo-typical short/fat person that everyone likes,...but never gets looked at by the guys because my girlfriends are so much better looking. :rolleyes:
I have no idea how I snagged a husband! :eek: LOL LOL
I really can't believe so many here think that they are not
pretty, beautiful, attractive,etc.:confused: Just what kind of
standard are you using to judge yourselves?
Lizbud....
What I really think about myself is too personal for me to post here but what I will say is this.
Past experiences can have alot to do with how women view themselves. I do find it hard to believe that some women who are happily married and have a loving husband/partner, also have low self-esteem. We all know that our own self-esteem only comes from within and not someone else, but when I was dating someone for a few short months in 2001, I was on top of the world. I was pretty, beautiful inside and out and I was desireable. Just don't ask what happened when the bomb dropped. :(
Well, I just look in the mirror. I don't expect, nor do I wish, to look like a celebrity or model. but my hair never does what I want, no style has even looked good, I have bad skin even at 42 years old, I have an overbite so from the side it looks like I have no chin, My teeth are far from even nice looking and I am fat.Quote:
Just what kind of standard are you using to judge yourselves?
BUT! I am who I am and I am not feeling sorry for myself. But since the question was "Do you think you are beautiful?" my only answer could be NO!
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Originally posted by jenluckenbach
BUT! I am who I am and I am not feeling sorry for myself. But since the question was "Do you think you are beautiful?" my only answer could be NO!
Hummm, so if the question was "do you think you are pretty,
attractive, good looking, etc", then your answer would probably
be different?
I've seen a lot of posted pictures & have never seen an ugly
person. :D
I guess it's just an ingrained thing for me. I was always the ugly kid that everyone taunted and made fun of. I barely even remember 1st-8th grade because it was so horrible. I've actually blocked most of those years out of my life.Quote:
Originally posted by lizbud
I really can't believe so many here think that they are not
pretty, beautiful, attractive,etc.:confused: Just what kind of
standard are you using to judge yourselves?
I went to a private school, so I was with the same mean 20 people for 8 years. I hated it. People made me cry all the time and picked on me.
Things were better in high school, since there were so many more people to choose from, but I still had people make fun of me because I'm not pretty like all the other girls :rolleyes:
College was by far the best, because everyone is anonymous and by then, I think people are way more mature. I guess you could say that low self-esteem was implanted in my by years of torment. Plus, the media does nothing to help.
I really do wish I had a better view of myself, but I don't. Especially now that I'm fat, I feel even worse. I just don't know how to feel better.
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See, I just don't understand. If only you guys to see yourselves through my eyes. **sigh**
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I've seen a lot of posted pictures & have never seen an ugly person.
Me neither. Go to the Pet Talkers pictures website and you will many beautiful faces there......including your's, Jen. :)
I just go by my own standards. I hate my nose. HATE it lol. Everyone says it's perfect, but it's not. It's too short and it's got a bulb on the end of it. Apparently only I can see it LOL. And I hate my chin. It's too round and pudgy. My hair is curly, so I have to straighten it. I wish I had nice, straight hair. I think my jaw is too wide...And I'm not fat, but I would love to lose some weight. And my legs are ugly too. There we go...I think I've narrowed down my problems...Now sign me up for one of those reality makeover shows! ;)Quote:
Originally posted by lizbud
Just what kind of
standard are you using to judge yourselves?
Here is Kirsten's Pet Talkers page with pictures of many of us who have posted here and I feel each and every one of us is beautiful in our own way, even myself. Currently I just don't feel I look even half as decent as I did in my picture. That was taken a year and half ago and I think I've really gone down hill since. :(
I should get my picture up there. Though my hair changes every month, so it will always be out of date lol.
I certainly wouldn't say beautiful, but I'm ok with how I look.
Has anyone ever gone to the site
hotornot you post a picture of yourself and your rated by thousands of people. Crazy but true. Well, I'm rated over an 8 on that site, suppossedly. I somehow don't believe anyone is a 10. Except, of course my boy Sash!;)
Maybe this feeling is just temporary then.One of those downQuote:
Originally posted by slick
Lizbud....
What I really think about myself is too personal for me to post here but what I will say is this.
Past experiences can have alot to do with how women view themselves. I do find it hard to believe that some women who are happily married and have a loving husband/partner, also have low self-esteem. We all know that our own self-esteem only comes from within and not someone else, but when I was dating someone for a few short months in 2001, I was on top of the world. I was pretty, beautiful inside and out and I was desireable. Just don't ask what happened when the bomb dropped. :(
periods of someone's life. Please don't give your power away
like that for anybody.
You still are! You're awesome, don't feel bad about yourself. :)Quote:
Originally posted by slick
I was pretty, beautiful inside and out
OK, you're not supposed to make older people cry....so stop it!!:( :o ;) Thank you Jordan....I really need to learn how to accept compliments....{{{hugs}}}Quote:
Originally posted by wolfsoul
You still are! You're awesome, don't feel bad about yourself. :)
Lizbud: I'm much stronger now and have made a vow never to be caught up again. In fact, I've built a wall so strong that it will never come down again.....which, in itself, is NOT a good thing.
Yes, you've probably guessed that I'm not too keen on myself and that I have issues but who doesn't? It's what we decide to do about it. I can fill myself with negative talk all day long...call myself stupid, ugly inside and out, as well as tell myself that I'm worth nothing.....or I can choose to accept myself along with all my foibles and remind myself that nobody is purrfect.
......and yes, I'm working on the latter but after a lifetime of badtalk, it can't happen overnight.
......and yes, I'm working on the latter but after a lifetime of badtalk, it can't happen overnight.
You are so right.:) Keep on truckin' :D
I don't think I'm beautiful, I think I'm ok looking... heh... I weigh a LOT more than I'd like, I look like I'm way pregnant in the buff (gross image comes to mind), I could go on... but I do get the 'second glance' from guys sometimes (either cuz of my chest or cuz I'm so nasty they gotta look like at a car crash)...
with that pet talk picture page, ya'll are pretty!
Laura, Slick, Nom -
:o Thanks but I just don't see it.
To answer Lizbud -
I am way hard on myself. I recognize that's not always a good thing but I don't know how to "out grow it" so to speak. I find I am more forgiving and/or accepting of others but just can't do the same for myself.
I have a lot of mental haunts that I don't mind discussing but choose not to share publically. That said, if anyone wants to talk I'm open for PMs/Emails. :)
Such a tough question....so difficult to answer...
I can honestly say though that everyone of you are BEAUTIFUL! I've never seen most of you and have yet to view the thread with the pictures (although to be honest, I have seen some PTers on a thread years ago) so I can say with 100% certainty that all of you are beautiful! Just by being here, on Pet Talk you are beautifuL!!!!! Your souls are glowing with love and affection. Your words and your action make you beautiful, not what you look like. I would embrace each and every one of you, your outside appearances mean little to nothing to me and to anyone in the "real" world that matters. It's cliche but true, who you are on the inside is who you are and what matters. I love getting to know you all without knowing what you look like. Sometimes outside appearances can get in the way and whether people like it or not, it causes judgments. I hate that. I want people to know ME not my body. I have made mistakes in my life that I have not forgiven myself for and because of that, I feel anger and resentment towards myself. The impression I give off to people is completely different than who I am on the inside more often than not. I've always been told I was "pretty". But what does that mean? I mean really? All that matters is how I feel about myself and that needs come work ;) LOL!
I hope some of us "older" folks can give impart some wisdom about this issue on some of the "younger" ones so they don't have to go through what many of us did...
SOOO, that said, think positive and glow from the inside out, all of you!! :D
I would certainly not put myself in the beautiful category, filmstars like Catherine Zeta Jones are beautiful to me, like all of you I have good and bad days, days where I Think Man how can I look so ugly today, and others where I think yep you will pass for today.
Still my daughter tells me all the time how beautiful I am and hubby calls me gorgeous, so that will have to do for me lol., personally I think I am a good candidate for extreme make-over these days.:D
P.S can someone explain what the term I LIKE PIE means, I have not got a clue, not something we use in NZ.:)
LOL Carole!! It's just like saying, "I plead the 5th" or "I can't say" or "I have no opinion" It's a joke because, as I'm sure you know, so many women have trouble talking about their own beauty without society thinking they have a problem. It's just being silly! :D :D ;)
I like Pie. :D He he he!!!
I wouldn't vote 'yes', but I can't bring myself to vote 'no' either. :o I figured I don't need to destroy my self-esteem by considering myself 'non-beautiful', because that's all it would do.
I don't think I'm 'beautiful', but I guess I'm okay. ;) Not bad. LOL... I hated the way I looked several years ago, but that was when I was 20+ pounds heavier. These days, I'm okay with how I look. I hope to lose some more weight...working on that now. Maybe once I reach my goal, I'll be able to feel more 'beautiful', but for now...I'm just...wellllllll...'okay'. LOL! Actually, when I make myself look nice, I do feel 'somewhat' pretty even now. He he he.
That being said, I do consider myself beautiful on the inside...and seeing that beauty comes from within......he he he.
I feel people shouldn't judge themselves or others based on looks. The most beautiful, stunning model could possibly be the most ugly person within, and vice versal. Sometimes I go against my beliefs on this issue myself by saying I don't like the way I look, but in all honesty, this is how I see things. In fact, I always advise my brother to marry a girl who's beautiful INSIDE, and not marry someone just because she's gorgeous on the outside. He just laughs and says, "She has to be beautiful inside AND outside." LOLLL!!!
God made everyone beautiful in one way or the other. ;)
Wolfsoul, you pretty much summed up my thoughts:)Quote:
Originally posted by wolfsoul
Mmm...Pie.
For me, it depends on the day, my mood, the people around me, etc. I know I'm not ugly, but I don't think I'm beautiful by any means. I think I'm very lucky to look the way I do, because I'm not physically horrendous...And I've had more than a few cat calls come my way... ;) :p Hehe.
I just looked in the mirror, decided I look pretty good today. So I'm gonna vote yes. Besides, beauty is what's on the inside! :)
A question......
Do men go through this?????? :confused:
I think some men do. They just hide it better sometimes or have a mid life crisis as they say.;) I dont get why a lot of men think when they turn 40 and up that they need to go after a 20 year old. That has to do with some self esteem issues dont you think?
I really don't know Jadapit. I'm not in a position to say because I've been on my own for 10 years now. I've never had much luck with men and have never been dumped for a younger woman.
I mean, men are human too and I'm sure they have self esteem issues. I really want to hear from Richard, Trevor, David and any other men on this board. LOL I guess the mere title of this thread would probably scare them away.
right now i dont feel pretty at all.
Well I must admit I opened this thread with some trepidation, because as wordly as I am, there are some things I just don't want to really talk about. You know, the type of stuff that always gets talked about when Carole's friends pop in etc. So I opened the thread carefully and was quite surprised at what has been said actually.Quote:
Originally posted by slick
I really don't know Jadapit. I'm not in a position to say because I've been on my own for 10 years now. I've never had much luck with men and have never been dumped for a younger woman.
I mean, men are human too and I'm sure they have self esteem issues. I really want to hear from Richard, Trevor, David and any other men on this board. LOL I guess the mere title of this thread would probably scare them away.
It's pretty hard to put tickets on yourself and a tad unbecoming, but you should at least be honest with yourself. The thing that surprised me the most was how some of the ladies looked at themselves. Granted that having had a bad experience with some numnut of a boofhead bloke is going to sour your perception somewhat, though I do feel that what you absolutely can't hide is the beauty that everyone has from within. Everyone on here has it. It leaps at you from half the world away. How you are and how you feel is based upon your experiences. They can be good or bad, but the thing is, is that you must embrace those and see through any negativity that may befall your life in any given situation.
I have on occasion been in some very dusty circumstances, seen some truly horrible things, experienced terror at it's worst. Admittedly some of these things have taken some time for me to work through, but work through I did. Maybe experience comes into it. But ask yourself, did I make someone have a good thought today, and I can assure you that everyone on here does that everyday. I became a member of this site because, not only did I want to talk about my kids, but because it's my daily dose of happiness. No matter how my day has been, I will always have a smile when talking to the people on here and looking at there lovely pets.
In short ladies you are all beautiful, you all have such good souls that just radiate happiness. :)
I voted no, although the I like pie was a tempting choice. :D
I've never thought of myself as beautiful. If I could lose 30 lbs I'd definitely feel better, but I still would not think I'm beautiful because I'm not.
Trev I think you just scored a few more fans there mate, what a nice chappy you are.:) :D
Lexi lover I'm so glad you are happyer now! My life pretty much sucks and the only thing pulling me through is Niño and future thoughts of travling.
I thought your picture was very pretty. I hope you can see this, and what really counts anyway is not what highs chool, middle school, or elementary school kids think of you, it is how you are on the inside, what makes you happy? You have Lexi and Skye and Chiquita and everyone here on Pet Talk. Please know that I think you are very beautiful on both the inside and out!
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But ask yourself, did I make someone have a good thought today, and I can assure you that everyone on here does that everyday.
I couldn't agree with you more, Trevor. Yesterday I received an email from one of my best friends thanking me (and two other best friends) for the flowers she received for her birthday. In her email she said that "it made her day". In that instance, I did feel good about myself because I made someone happy. So why do I judge my self-worth on whether or not I make someone feel good? Recently, because of my actions/words, I have brought on more stress for someone. So what happened? My self-worth/self-esteem (whatever you want to all it) took a nosedive and all the negative talk started up again. Yes, I'm working on it, daily.
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right now i dont feel pretty at all.
Jynnelle, I've met you and you are very pretty. Don't ever forget that.:)
Lexi-Lover, that picture is beautiful. I've always wanted hair like that. :)
Sadly, that isn't my hair....its something my sister did, I have hidious hair....always up in a pony tail...naturaly wavy/curly and its very annoying and NEVER shines, which makes it look unhealthy....:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by slick
Lexi-Lover, that picture is beautiful. I've always wanted hair like that. :)
Oh how wrong you are Amy, I think you are beautiful inside and out, how dare you say your not! All anyone has to do is meet you to know how beautiful you really are:DQuote:
Originally posted by wolf_Q
I've never thought of myself as beautiful. If I could lose 30 lbs I'd definitely feel better, but I still would not think I'm beautiful because I'm not.
Now, that being said:p
I voted yes. Not because I think I'm superstar or supermodel beautiful (although my husband seems to think so;)) but because I feel like I'm a beautiful person on the inside and it shows on the outside. Does that make any sense?
I've always felt like a ugly duckling for one reason or another but when it really comes down to it I love myself for who I am and think I am a beautiful person.
I just wish the rest of you felt that way. I think you all beautiful in one way or another because you are all beautiful to me:D
And just so you know...I like pie:D
Anna, your words couldn't be any more true.
I think you and Amy are both gorgeous people, inside and OUT.
As are you, Kay. Anna's words aren't just for those two. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Kfamr
Anna, your words couldn't be any more true.
I think you and Amy are both gorgeous people, inside and OUT.
Let's see...
baldness, pot belly, hair in the ears, nose and god know what other orifice it chooses to sprout. Facial hair, back hair and a guy's privates really aren't that attractive....you women have boobs to distract any 'Inquiries' into THAT area.
We pass gas, smell up the bathroom, our feet smell and we can belch at will.
We get wrinkly, fat and panic when a gal won't give us the time of day.....Although I was coming out of an elevator one day and caught a gal checking out my arse....I held on the THAT moment for a long, long time....
We snore, scratch out crotch, pick out a wedgie in public and can blow snot out on a long sleeve shirt with out any problem what so ever.........
A woman is the sum of her parts......
A pair of Pam's boobs, J-lo's arse, Zeta-Jones' abs (post baby)
are exactly that......body parts.
It's the total package that make a woman.
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Check out a movie called "Shirley Valentine"..
Its about a marriied English woman who takes a Mediterranean vacation and has an affair.
She has a 'moment' with this gent in a small boat and afterwards her only thought about her infidelity is this..
"He kissed my stretch marks!!!"
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Ladies,
Don't worry about what other people see.
Don't worry about what you see.
My mom has a saying....
"Everyone sees a face, no one can see a heart"
Actually we go for two 20 years olds...that adds UP TO FORTY:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Jadapit
I think some men do. They just hide it better sometimes or have a mid life crisis as they say.;) I dont get why a lot of men think when they turn 40 and up that they need to go after a 20 year old. That has to do with some self esteem issues dont you think?
You forgot the sports car....;)
I love pie too....
Lemon custard or a strawberry rhubarb....I AM THERE!!!;)
I love your moms saying Richard! Very true. Here is a picture of Pamela Anderson with no makeup. Don't forget her boob are fake.:p
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...2/f4733819.jpg
im ok, now lol I was ugly when I was fat though, people would call me a "homely" and ugly and such, I dinied it at the time but when I look at picture from the time, I really WAS ugly lol I dont think I am any more though, and nobody has made a comment like above for a long long time. but lets just say when I was in like grade 8 I had long super poofy hair, huge round glasses, and a triple chin, I am not exadurating unfortinatly lol