The earlier consternation

All I want to say is:
Whoever did it shame on them.
And Kay has Karen ever failed you before?

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I feel so terrible about the whole thing.
Kay, I know your feelings as SO hurt right now. I hope that you know that noone here feels the way "theblob24" feels about you. You are caring, kind, compassionate. Dont let it get you down, It was just an immature attempt at hurting you and others. Dont let them spoil Pet Talk for you. You are too much of an asset to PT to let it bother you. *HUGS*

Karen, Thank yuo for trying to make Pet Talk an even more amazing place to be;) *HUGS*

And Lastly, Robyn, I am also so sorry you had to go through this. I do not believe it was you. I have never heard you make a rude comment towards anyone, anything. I hope that you also can get past this, and continue posting. I love your pets, and seeing them often. It will all work out in the end. I wouldnt let something so immature and stupid ruin Pet Talk for me. It is a wonderful place, and soon all will be forgotten by most. Keep your hopes up, and keep looking into who would do this, and just know that no matter what, we still love ya;) *HUGS*

My point, yesterday, to you, Kay, was that I trust Karen and I was surprised that you would insinuate that she might be lying. If you can't trust the moderator of the group, then who can you trust? I'm sorry if I disappointed any of you. It wasn't my intention.

I don't know the whole story...and don't need to. I am just going to trust that Karen has it under control the best she can and that PT life will go on the way it was intended...

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I don't know the whole story...and don't need to. I am just going to trust that Karen has it under control the best she can and that PT life will go on the way it was intended...

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I don't understand the situation either. But I trust Karen in this!
I'd like to advize anyone 1 thing: Forget about it, and relax!:)

I wish this would all stop. I hate all this fussing.

All I know is that I hate seeing my friend's feelings hurt. I don't understand why people feel the need to do that.

I don't normally post in these kinds of things, but I know people are hurting and I hate to see that happen here.

I think it is FAR EASIER for all of us to forget this, than it would be for Kay. SHE was the one someone talked poorly of, not us. It is always easier to walk away from something when you don't have a horse in the race.

I don't blame Kay for her feelings. Not one bit. Having said that, Kay, you are WAY too much of a respected PTer to let one bad apple get to you. I do know you are hurt, I would be too. No one likes to be attacked, personally. BUT, I hope you know that there is a HUGE majority that doesn't think one iota less of you or your trio based on what anyone else might say. K, Kay?

Love you!

ps- I do place my trust in Karen, completely. While maybe she spoke prematurely, at one point, after a full investigation, if this is the result, I am a believer.

I missed it all but I don't like that kind of stuff anyway...

I DO wonder WHY people like to cause problems like that for other people, why can't they let people be and let life go along as it was meant to! They WILL get what they have coming one day... I find God has a strange sense of humor and He seen all, no bad deed goes un-noticed.

But I have LEARNED and changed my password, something I would not have done had I not seen this thread..

I really like what Johanna said. I hope you are listening to how much people care about you Kay. You certainly are a very well respected PTer. You know I love you and the muttlies please don't let some idiot make you forget about all the people who care about you!

Hugs...Robin :)

I have not replied, because I wasn't sure how or what to say, as I did not see the original insulting posts, just a bit of the confusion the next day.
I think if I could have put in into words, my feelings would echo Johanna's. Well said!

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Originally posted by Laura's Babies

I DO wonder WHY people like to cause problems like that for other people, why can't they let people be and let life go along as it was meant to! They WILL get what they have coming one day... I find God has a strange sense of humor and He seen all, no bad deed goes un-noticed.

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Because some people have no life and their "fun" is to cause problems for other people. That's why hackers and computer virus creators exist. They are losers with a sad, sad existence and try to spread their misery among as many people as possible. They just don't realize how much more pathetic it makes them.

Interesting thread and responses.

Us guys will just beat the crap out of each other, then go out and grab a beer.

On the internet it's a little different. We'd toss a few eff bombs each other's way and then email porn websites to each other..


I can't believe all this over some characters that appear on a phosphorescent tube....If you know it's not true why make a big deal out of it????

So someone said something bad about me???

I guess I'll have to change my name, sell my belongings and move to a place where no one knows me and start all over again.

My cat was insulted too!!!

I guess since he understands every word that he reads on the internet - he's damaged beyond all repair.

Trust me, If you think someone tossing some stupid email your way is the end of your planet, lock yourself in your room and have your meals brought in.


One day someone will come up to you and say it to your face.

And on that day you'll be able to put a face to the 'voice' and then you'll meet, in person, someone who really doesn't like you.


Here's a tip about the stuff you see online.

Only worry about it if it's a sporting event that you have wagered on-and the score ain't going your way.

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There is an old adage that goes something like this-

If no one is writing about you, you ain't news.


There are some newspapers that I'm just not interested in.

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When I get consternated I just eat more fiber.

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LOL Richard. Well said. I was gonna say something along the same lines...since I only belong to boards consisting of mostly guys. (except this one) You don't see this kind of thing there, but since I'm a woman, I chose to remain silent. :D

I didn't find it that amusing.

Thanks Richard, I can always count on you to be so supporting.

While I empathize with Kay's pain and hurt and am glad to see that many are reaching to her in kindness...I suspect other folks may have been also hurt by whatever was said by the individual who made up the false account and impersonated another. Kay - I am not minimizing what has happened to you - I really do feel sad for you...

But, do some of you also understand the pain that young Robyn (DogLover9501) suffered through quite silently? She was fearful that she was to be banned for something she knew nothing about and sat by while her reputation was discussed and evaluated. She trusted Karen to find the truth and I believe that has been done.

I spoke with her while she was still in the dark about what had happened and was waiting hopefully for her name to be cleared and the truth to be found. She was in contact with Karen and trusted her to investigate. At her saddest, her concern was for her friends and whoever was hurt in her name She stays outside of the General discussions for the most part and I don't believe she has ever taken part in anything controversial or unpleasant - preferring to quietly post pictures of her pets and read the threads in Dog & Cat General.

It really seems to me that she needs some apologies from several folks here. I read some very ugly things said to her by some whom believed she was the culprit. If you can't apologize publicly - then how about privately?? Thanks...

Thank you to those who have already put in a kind word for Robyn and/or PM'd her privately - she told me last night that those words of support have carried her along through this. She is doing OK because she knows that she has done nothing wrong.

*edited for terrible spelling - sheesh! I taught English but still don't spell well when I am feeling sad or passionate about something....

Robyn has heard those words from me, privately. Perhaps I need to reach out to others, too, which I haven't done, privately, but have done publically.

Debbie, you have been a true friend to Robyn through all of this mess, and I'm glad you were there. Many of us were probably PM'd her at her original address on Pet Talk and she was never seeing it because she had a new nickname and was told not to check the one we knew.

I choose no sides in this whole thing, except against the person who caused the trouble to start with. I couldn't "see" Robyn doing such an injustice to others in the way it was described. I just didn't want to see Robyn, Kay or Karen treated so poorly in the responses of others. I probably should have kept my mouth shut, and in hindsight, I would have. Hope they all understand where I was coming from. I know Robyn understands and I hope that Kay does too.

Logan

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I didn't find it that amusing.

Thanks Richard, I can always count on you to be so supporting.

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I'm sorry that you were made to feel even worse now Kay :(

For those of you who didn't see the thread, it was HORRIBLE! I am 26 years old and would have been in tears if those things were said about me. Of course her dogs' feelings aren't hurt, but don't you think HER feelings get hurt when her precious babies are being critcized? She was also personally attacked in a horrific way.

Robyn is lucky to have Karen post in her defense. While the hurtful words are still ringing in Kay's head, Kay will have a much tougher time getting over this :(

Aly, my post was not meant to be "in Robyn's defense."
It was simply the truth of the whole matter.

I try very hard to moderate and not "take sides," which I'm sure you did not mean to imply.

Feeling were hurt on both sides, and will take time to heal.

May the healing begin!

Thats what I meant, Karen. That you clarified the situation for Robyn.

I've been using bad wording on things all week and not portraying the right messages :o :o :o

I'm sorry. I can't even find the right words to say what I meant, but I think you know! Right? :p

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You don't see this kind of thing there, but since I'm a woman, I chose to remain silent. :D

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I see you enjoy the benefits of fiber, too!:cool:

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Thats what I meant, Karen. That you clarified the situation for Robyn.

I've been using bad wording on things all week and not portraying the right messages :o :o :o

I'm sorry. I can't even find the right words to say what I meant, but I think you know! Right? :p

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Yup! We all have "words not mouth coming of out right" days! Guess it applies to keyboards, too.

And, Richard? I have had to stand between two "boys" (neither of them Paul, don't worry) so they wouldn't do MORE violence toward each other AFTER the beers have sunk in. So while you may think "men" do disagreements better, I do not beg to differ on that, I just DO differ!

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And, Richard? I have had to stand between two "boys" (neither of them Paul, don't worry) so they wouldn't do MORE violence toward each other AFTER the beers have sunk in. So while you may think "men" do disagreements better, I do not beg to differ on that, I just DO differ!

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I never said men do disagreements "better", they are just more decisive and get the nitty gritty out of the way faster, not smarter, faster.

Not a proponent of fighting to solve anything....Just weary at the time and effort wasted on frivolous arguements and petty incidents.

My mom said it best-

Hurt feelings never killed anyone.

And then, there is-

If someone tries to hurt you with words, show then how hurt you are by ignoring them and living your own life.

But her best, by far......

If you are suffering from consternation, try olive oil.


;) :confused: :eek: :)

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I see you enjoy the benefits of fiber, too!:cool:

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Indeed. The olive oil works wonders. :D

Seriously, maybe the people whose feelings got hurt need to step back and think of people like Randi who have a whole lot more to worry about than someone saying something mean to them.

Let it go. It could be worse.

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Seriously, maybe the people whose feelings got hurt need to step back and think of people like Randi who have a whole lot more to worry about than someone saying something mean to them.

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A whole giant post from me and you hit it in one sentence.....

AMEN......'nuff said.

To let you know, i've been grieving for Randi, not knowing what to say.

I've even felt bad for feeling the way I have for the past few month or so because of Randi and her situation. Maybe I should suck it up, maybe I shouldn't care, but the point is I DO. And that should be enough. I've felt like CRAP this year. This year has not been happy for me, and this has just loaded on top of it.

Sorry my feelings aren't worthy enough for you, but you'll NEVER know until you're in my shoes.

I highly doubt you'd want someone to say "get over it", "step back", or something along those lines when you haven't been feeling well.

Thank you to those of you whom have been supportive... I really do appreciate it. :(

QUOTE]Originally posted by Logan
Robyn has heard those words from me, privately. [/QUOTE]

I appreciate it it Logan. Robyn said that lots of folks were very kind to her! Your words and others, both publicly on this thread and privately are what helped her get through this.

My plea is to those who discussed her guilt, suggested she was lying and still did not believe her innocence after Karen tried to impartially state what she had discovered. DogLover9501 is back on her original account and quite reachable now. Please, focus your anger on the one who did these things to Kay and anyone else who may have been maligned.

I suppose it is time for *me* to put this behind. It is my mother-heart that aches for Robyn. She is really doing quite well and I find her to be a healthy, resiliant and strong young woman. Had I been the one accused, I am not sure I would have coped as well - and I am an adult.

Kay I understand what you are saying, and just want you to know, your feelings are important to me as are Robyn's, this is not the first time I have seen you go through stuff like this, and it is sad, take care Sweetie and giant Hugs to you.:)

Some people are more sensitive to things people say. It is easy for others to say ignor it, get over it, move on. But when you are having a tough time, when you are already not feeling the greatest about things in your life, the last thing you need is someone saying mean and cruel things about you and your pets.

I have done a lot of work with Marriage Enrichment. In one of the talks, there is a saying feelings are not right or wrong they just are. None of us can tell Kay how she should feel right now. I am 53 years old and it has taken a long time for me to not take to heart things people say - I don't care what anyone says about words, not hurting you - they do. Kay needs to be given the time and space SHE needs to work through this hurt.

I hope and pray that she will be able to do this and remain a part of Pet Talk. She will be missed by many if she decides to leave.

4 Dog Mother you said exactly what I was thinking, but unable to put in such words, I agree with you 100 per cent.:)