I'm glad we can talk about this I was feeling like no one understood what I was going through. If I don't have my soy and Black cosh.I could kill, infact the guys check my daily pill container if I haven't taken it they bring it to me.
I'm glad we can talk about this I was feeling like no one understood what I was going through. If I don't have my soy and Black cosh.I could kill, infact the guys check my daily pill container if I haven't taken it they bring it to me.
Robin,
I just wanted to weigh in with my two cents...After I was done with chemo, I had my ovaries removed (had the rest of the plumbing taken out earlier) because my cancer was estrogen-receptor positive. Instant menopause!
My docs have recommended *against* black cohosh, primrose oil, and other phytoestrogens because they're not sure how they would affect the estrogen-receptor positive cells if any are left.
I also went through the hot flashes and mood swings. The hot flashes lasted about a year, then started becoming much less frequent. Between the chemo-brain and menopausal mood swings, I'm still on anti-depressants and mood stabilizers. I see a psychiatrist to manage those meds; a good psych doc is much better informed about psych meds than your average family practicioner.
Hope this info is of use to you - good luck with your docs.
Maybe our Richard is an older lady?(after all this is the internet folks) or he is just one hellava brave guy to venture in here, I think perhaps the later, GOOD ON YA MATE.!!!:)
Ladies, I bet there isn't another man brave enough to come in here and talk to us!! What do you think??
Ha ha. This is a "hot" thread :D Richard is indeed brave to venture in here with all these suffering ladies. I just wish I could take the Lupron shot all the time. I felt amazingly good for almost 3 months. Now, I'm back to my edgy self. I used to be so carefree before all this stuff came along.
Richard is a good man. I'm very inpressed that he done that. Not many men understands, like that. That it is serious.
I take evening primrose,black cohosh and soy. I don't have hotflashes. But I still get depressed. I'm blank headed somtimes. ( forgetful) . I was told at work by some ladies they were forgetting, maybe leaving their cars running all night. Some really weird storys I heard. I have not gotten that bad! I do forget how to spell and things like that.
Ladies, have you noticed there are 44 posts, 45 counting this one and 314 views! Don't you wonder how many men ventured in here and got out in a big hurry? 314 views!!
Willie;)
OMG you poor thing :(
I'm only 21 & I know what REALLY REALLY BAD hot flashes are like. I got ill from the hot flashes & these hot flashes lasted for several hrs to 1/2 a day at a time.
I was sick for over a week. I'll never take bladder infection pills ever again.
Wait I was only 20 when that happened, I suffered memory loss too heheh.
I know right now that my hormones r messed up cause I have been very moody the past few years. & I know why their messed up too. evil genes :mad:
I'll be very lucky if I ever get the chance to have kids. My great grandmother had problems. my grandmother had problems at 40is, my mother had problems at 25ish & I started when I was 13ish.
The dr's just keep saying its a bladder infection. & I darn well know its not & so does the lab that ran my tests. I hate dr.s around here. Also bladder infections have never happened in our family.
I should stop rambling on in ur thread. but I know how u feel about the hot flashes, just hope they weren't as bad as mine.
Let see, this is a woman thread, and you are a woman so welcome to the club! Of course we even welcome men if they are not too scared to come in......;)
Originally posted by RICHARD:
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It's terrible, We want to iron clothes and bake cookies.
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Richard,
The thought of you standing in the kitchen in a frilly apron, taking cookies off the tray makes me SHUDDER!!! :eek: :eek:
Make mine chocolate chip with walnuts. Uh, BTW, no starch in the collar. ;)
Well that does it!!! I'm packin' and movin' on up to CAL-EEEE-FOR-NYEAA. If that's what the guys are like there I'm not wasting any time. :D :DQuote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
It's terrible, We want to iron clothes and bake cookies.
:rolleyes:
Put a fork in me, I'm done....
Slick, I would too if I were single! LOL!
I got one that cleans, and cooks but I had a hard time finding him!:D His Mother had the boys already trained!:D
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Originally posted by carole
Maybe our Richard is an older lady?(after all this is the internet folks) or he is just one hellava brave guy to venture in here, I think perhaps the later, GOOD ON YA MATE.!!!:)
I happened to look down in the shower this morning.....
;)
I was on the other side of the menopause for a few years and
toughed it out.....everything told me to RUN, but good gals are hard to find......
It's the working them up to do my bidding....;)
And dare I ask and what did you see Richard? lol,so you reckon the older ladie theory just doesn't sit with you huh? you really are a guy then? me think so to he he., now you cannot enter an almost "women's Domain area" and not get some flak ya know, all be it in good old fashioned fun.,hey mate have a great day won't ya!!!!!!:) :D
We love having Richard here, we know we can always depend on Richard to give us the honest truth about the man's point of view on this subject.
Like I said Richard is a very brave man to be able to talk to us this way. Most men just turn pink and point in another direction and say "hey whats that over there" and get off the subject just as fast as they can.
Cheers for Richard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)
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Originally posted by carole
And dare I ask and what did you see Richard? lol,so you reckon the older ladie theory just doesn't sit with you huh?
soap suds!
;)
The last time the older woman theory sat with me....
I changed my mind.....not even thinking of heading in that direction.....:)
I still won't ask for directions.......I am not perfect.:eek:
Richard is that how you got in here, made a wrong turn?;)
Richard as we would say in NZ you are a real hardcase or a bit of a dag, means you are one funny guy, humourous.:)
Let me tell you...It wasn't funny when the GF would toss the blankets off the bed when it wasQuote:
Originally posted by carole
Richard as we would say in NZ you are a real hardcase or a bit of a dag, means you are one funny guy, humourous.:)
34 degrees F!!!!
Or being next to her when she was going thru her
"radiant heat" phases......:eek:
Thanks!
:)
Tray,
I said I didn't ask for directions.....;)
and someone needed advice:rolleyes: ...
We all love you Richard. Your as good as they get... so you are perfect!
Not all ladies have an understanding guy, like you around.
:)
Hey Richard I can assure you she didn't find it funny either, imagine one minute you are hot as hell the next freezing, hey think of the bright side here, whenever you were cold you had your very own instant hot water bottle, well thats what hubby tells me anyhow, it can have its advantages ya know.:) :D ;)
Funny! Carole thats a good one!:D
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Originally posted by carole
Hey Richard I can assure you she didn't find it funny either, imagine one minute you are hot as hell the next freezing, hey think of the bright side here, whenever you were cold you had your very own instant hot water bottle, well thats what hubby tells me anyhow, it can have its advantages ya know.:) :D ;)
....But how do you adjust the temperature?:confused:
The part that I remember was the sheet change...Poor baby would sweat so badly we'd have to change the sheets.....
Hey,
What the hell is going on here??
Poor Robilee asks for advice and here we are cutting up.......
:eek: ;)
Hmm well yes Richard that is a tricky one, there is no temp control on these units unfortunately, I am sure Robilee won't mind a bit of humour added to this thread, and hey you know what PT is like any thread can take a turn for the worse or better .
It really is no fun at all for either partner I suppose, but it is a fact of life, we all have to go through, with a bit of medical help, or alternative help, support , love, understanding and humour we will all get through it hopefully.
I hope all this sweating us poor women do, can at least shed a few unwanted menopausal pounds, or at least some unwanted toxins out of the body,there has got to be an up side here don't you think. lol:)
At least Richard you had empathy for your GF and obviously supported her as best you could, and thats the best one can do.:cool:
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Originally posted by carole
At least Richard you had empathy for your GF and obviously supported her as best you could, and thats the best one can do.:cool:
Empathy my ear!
No one could make mushrooms in wine sauce like she
could. ;)
Hehehe, Theres our funny Richard!:)
Like I said you guys are great! Thanks for putting a smile on my face!
Well, I went to the doc today and spilled my guts and told him all the details. I felt like a complete idiot and was pratically in tears. He is a super doctor though and very easy to talk too. He hugged me twice and said we would get this all worked out. He still thinks my main trigger is the depression mixed in with the menopause. He and my husband both think that I have been through so much and handled it all so well and that now that it is all over with I have a lot of pent up anger and resentment and along with the menopause I have sunk into a major depression. Blah, Blah, Blah. He has switched me to a different med called Lexapro we will give it a try for 4 weeks and then I go back to see how things are going. Oh, I had to have bloodwork done also. Keeping my fingers crossed that it come out alright too. All medical tests make me very nervous now. The doc gave me 8 weeks of pills for free. Love that. When I got home hubby asked if I could start by taking a whole box today..Hahaha...isn't he funny! Everyone has been talking about the hot flashes. Whew, they sure are something aren't they?! I've actually been dealing with them pretty well. You are right though it feels like you are burning from the inside out. I haven't had any night sweats though. I hear those can be the worse. The last hot flash I had I kept opening up the backdoor so I could try to cool down and someone would keep closing it. I would get mad and open it up again. After doing this several times I finally screamed at the family that they would just have to bundle up cause I couldn't take it anymore so I went to open the backdoor again and hubby shoved me right out and shut the door behind me...lol...I didn't mind I just sat right down on the steps and tried to cool off a bit. Ahhh, the things us women go through! I was scared about bringing this topic up but I sure am glad I did. It seems like we all need to talk about it and the humor was much needed. Thanks for helping me out folks!!
Hugs...Robin :)
Thanks for updating us. I hope it helps you. It is a hard thing you've been going through. Thank goodness for our funny husbands! I think I have mine worried about male menopause!
:D
We love you and you can talk to us, anytime. We are all family now! :) We are the Pet Talker family.:)
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Originally posted by RobiLee
[B] I was scared about bringing this topic up but I sure am glad I did. It seems like we all need to talk about it and the humor was much needed. Thanks for helping me out folks!!
Hugs...Robin :)
Are you allowed back in the house now???;)
:D Oh Yes, I am allowed in the house for now...but only until the next episode and then he says its back outside again! Trust me I will win this battle though. I will be kicking them all out and be sitting in my house with my air conditioning on even if it is 28 degrees outside and I will be enjoying the peace and quiet!!! Do you think the family will go for that?! ;)Quote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
Are you allowed back in the house now???;)
Oops, I forgot. Katie can stay with me! She likes the cold too and she never back talks! Love that pup of mine! ;)
Robin, believe me you just give them the eye of the menopausal woman and they will run not walk to the nearest exit! You will win the battle, like I said before EVERYBODY at my house and beyond it knew to stay out of my way, and my son-in-law even knew, but he would tell me it was time for my bitch shot!;)
I hope that Lexapro helps you, I am on it now too. I have been on it for about a month and I do feel a little better. I am also taking a one for anxiety too, so both together are doing me really well.
But you know it is nice to get an understanding guy in here that is not afraid to voice his opinion, and understand. I don't understand why that man hasn't been snapped up yet, understanding + a good sense of humor is so great. Its a wonder some of these unmarried women don't just snap him up. LOL.
Robin I am really happy to see that you at least feel like you can see the light at the end of the long dark tunnel, that helps a lot.
I think this was a good thread, and probably helped a lot of us women to see that we are not all suffering alone and so we can joke about it. I love this and I gave it 5 stars *****, Thanks Robin, you are the greatest you and Katie! And may we all continue to support each other like this. At least give each other a laugh, a smile, a hug or just big huge pat on the back!!
Willie
Ahem!! They're called "Power Surges" or "PHS" (Personal Heating Systems) thank you very much!!!Quote:
Or being next to her when she was going thru her
'radiant heat' phases
RobiLee,
That's my girl!!! Who CARES if they'll go for it??? Stay cool chick!!Quote:
I will be kicking them all out and be sitting in my house with my air conditioning on even if it is 28 degrees outside and I will be enjoying the peace and quiet!!! Do you think the family will go for that?!
I've gone from wearing PJ's (and waking up in the middle of the night with "night sweats") to gotchees (underwear) and a tank top!!! Works wonders, along with a cool mist humidifier. Only problem is poor MooShoo, my little 4 legged hot water bottle gets kicked out of the bed. He'll live!
What do I know????Quote:
Originally posted by moosmom
[IMG]Or being next to her when she was going thru her
"radiant heat" phases[/IMG]
Ahem!! They're called "Power Surges" or "PHS" (Personal Heating Systems) thank you very much!!!
I'm a guy.......:confused:
......so I went to open the backdoor again and hubby shoved me right out and shut the door behind me...lol...
dear robin, when i was a smart a$$ teen, i laughed at my mom, sitting on the back porch eating ice cream in her nightgown, in january. i'm really lucky she let me live. good luck with the antidepressant, some days i think prozac should be in the public water supply.
joycenalex, thats a great IDEA!! Wow what a great improvement that would be to Wayne County!!!
Willie
OK, I've been lurking in this thread for quite some time now and I've got something to say.....
Did you know........
Just when you thought those nasty power surges are over, a year later....
THEY RETURN....AGAIN AND AGAIN...
Yes ladies I'm living proof and so is my 70 yr old neighbour. She still gets them.
They are demons out to haunt us for the rest of our pitiful lives.
Dear God, in my next life please make me a man.......Thank you.
Did you mean make you a special man or turn you into a man in your next life?
If he makes you one, what do you want him to look and act like??;) :p
Willie:D :D
Funny Slick, and Funny willie! The new comic team!
Hey I like that! You'll be great! :D:D :D :D :D
Could be called Slick & Willie! or Willie and Slick!:D
Back to the serious stuff, my mother went through it the hard way, no drugs etc etc, and she had a tough time, she is now 69, you all know she ended up with breast cancer, and now she has to take tamoxifin, and guess what one of the side effects are, hot flashes, poor mum its the dreaded menopause symptons coming back to haunt her yet again., life is so unfair to us ladies sometimes eh girl's?
By the way did you know one of the side effects of Prozac is night sweats!!!!!!!:(