There are many adjectives that come to my mind when I think about Steve Irwin.
However, IDIOT seems to be the kindest of them all.
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There are many adjectives that come to my mind when I think about Steve Irwin.
However, IDIOT seems to be the kindest of them all.
getting croc crap from in between a newborn's toes is hard..Quote:
Originally posted by Tweety_Pie
The part that angers me the most is how he made his baby "walk" at the end...
IBK.....
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
That was priceless!!!!
For the seriousness of the subfect I have found this to be pretty entertaining.
2K,
Did you get the handbag???;)
Could you please re-read my post. I said SUPERVISED. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Twisterdog
We should. NO child should ever be left unsupervised with ANY animal, period. No excuses, no justifications.
I can't say I'm surprise Steve had the baby out there with the croc. Back when Terri was pregnant with their first child, (which I think was before they were famous but just startingon TV) she was sitting on top of the gators wrestlin them intot he truck. Yes, while pregnant. But then again, shocking the public gets ratings, and that is what it is all about!
Well, as a croc expert said today, it's not like huge saltwater crocodiles are agile like lions or tigers. There's no way the child, being held at least 6 feet from the ground and several feet from the croc was in danger.Quote:
Originally posted by Tweety_Pie
I find it disturbing that anyone would do such a thing. He is not only putting the his life in danger, he is putting his new born son's life in danger. :mad:
What do you think?
I would bet my last dollar that if that croc had moved menacingly towards Steve, he would have had the baby over the fence back to its mother before it had any chance to do anything to the child. I would also bet that Steve is the kind of guy who would let the croc take both his legs before he even thought about giving up Bob.
Anyway, are people so silly that they think Steve would harm his child? He knows what he's doing. It's his profession, for crying out loud.
Steve Irwin is a happy-go-lucky bloke who has become successful and it's really embarassing to see the media create this frenzy around him. It's like they'v ebeen waiting to have a shot at him for ages - probably through jealousy that an average Joe can do so well - and now they've got it. And I'm disgusted with the media. Completely and utterly.
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Originally posted by blur
Well, as a croc expert said today, it's not like huge saltwater crocodiles are agile like lions or tigers. There's no way the child, being held at least 6 feet from the ground and several feet from the croc was in danger.
I would bet my last dollar that if that croc had moved menacingly towards Steve, he would have had the baby over the fence back to its mother before it had any chance to do anything to the child. I would also bet that Steve is the kind of guy who would let the croc take both his legs before he even thought about giving up Bob.
Anyway, are people so silly that they think Steve would harm his child? He knows what he's doing. It's his profession, for crying out loud.
Steve Irwin is a happy-go-lucky bloke who has become successful and it's really embarassing to see the media create this frenzy around him. It's like they'v ebeen waiting to have a shot at him for ages - probably through jealousy that an average Joe can do so well - and now they've got it. And I'm disgusted with the media. Completely and utterly.
i couldn't have said it better myself!:D
p.s. welcome to pet talk:)
Methinks you need to understand Australian larrikanism and humour a little more before you judge what he said ;)Quote:
Originally posted by rg_girlca
What got me was when Steve told the crowd, "He's one month old, so it's about time Bob got out there and did his first croc demo."
At one month old:eek: ....I don't think so.
Like i said before, steve doesn't mean anytthing by it. to him he as introducing his baby to his best friend. Bob will be around crocs all his life, he'd better get used to it now. i'm sure steve had people standing near (off the camera) that he could hand the baby to if it started getting out of hand. steve is so genuine and nice and he loves animals so much, i think it would be great to be his kid :)
Well thankyou very much! :)Quote:
Originally posted by G.P.girl
i couldn't have said it better myself!:D
p.s. welcome to pet talk:)
I'm looking forward to getting home later today and getting some pictures of my cats uploaded and ripping into some discussions. I might also upload pictures of the dogs which now live with my parents (since I moved out of home), and take part in the dog forums, too!
What are your kitties names? what kind of doggies? i can't wait to see pics:D
Well, here's one way of looking at it... Ask yourself what you work with everyday. Is it an animal? A computer? Plants? Whatever it is, I assume that you know it very well, understand it, and aren't hurt by it?Quote:
Originally posted by Moose
I'd have to agree that Steve are his wife are a couple of "crocs" themselves...they are absolutely absurd. All I know is if I had my baby in my arms, I wouldn't be getting within 15 feet of anything with a set of teeth like that. :eek:
Well, Steve Irwin's reality is crocs. He knows them, understands them, and isn't hurt by them. The teeth might scare the bejeezus out of you (and many of us for that matter!), but we must look at this through Steve's eyes. What he did was no big deal, to his mind, and as a regular, non-media savvy bloke, would never have expected this media-led, holier-than-thou series of attacks.
Well, although I'll do proper intros elsewhere, I'll briefly say here that their names are Graham and Geoffrey.Quote:
Originally posted by G.P.girl
What are your kitties names? what kind of doggies? i can't wait to see pics:D
Graham is approximately 3 years old, but it's hard to tell as he was a stray that we took into our lives. He's a domestic shorthair with brown/orange/grey(ish) tabby markings, and is incredibly loving and loyal - probably through the kindness we extended to him a couple of years ago when he was the "littlest hobo" with no place to go.
Geoffrey, meanwhile, is approximately 11 weeks old and is a huge bundle of fun. The animal shelter said he was a domestic shorthair, but his face is VERY fine and his ears are very big, so we're speculating that he might be a domestic crossed with a Persian or an Oriental, or similar. He's entirely black, save for a white splash on his chest. What a cutie!
At my parents, I have a Border Collie (Barney) and a Belgian Shepherd (a Groenendael; if I remember what they call the all-black version), called Jack.
Blur, first of all - a big welcome to Pet Talk. I hope we can get to see pictures of your cats and your dogs soon.
I can only express my own personal concern regarding Steve Irwin and his actions with his son.
Regardless of Steve's long profession and experience and his confidence that his son would not be in any danger - why is it necessary to place his son even remotely in harms way?
He is a one month old baby........he deserves better..........he isn't going to remember this experience. Steve can train him carefully when he is old enough to understand.
But Steve has certainly gotten what he knew he would receive - plenty of publicity.
Ah yes, the ratings, we musn't forget the ratings. (living in Los Angeles, this is a BIG thing).
Steve Irwin is the kind of guy that you either love and admire or you just can't stand him.
But enough about Steve Irwin - and I hope you will start a thread and tell us more about yourself and your babies.
i agree :)Quote:
Originally posted by G.P.girl
Like i said before, steve doesn't mean anytthing by it. to him he as introducing his baby to his best friend. Bob will be around crocs all his life, he'd better get used to it now. i'm sure steve had people standing near (off the camera) that he could hand the baby to if it started getting out of hand. steve is so genuine and nice and he loves animals so much, i think it would be great to be his kid :)
Blur, welcome! Nice to see another Australian on Pet Talk :) I lived in Sydney for three years until the end of 2002 - miss the jacarandas but don't miss the humidity ;)Quote:
Originally posted by blur
Well, here's one way of looking at it... Ask yourself what you work with everyday. Is it an animal? A computer? Plants? Whatever it is, I assume that you know it very well, understand it, and aren't hurt by it?
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I can't agree with this logic. I drive a car every day, yet statistically, I will have an accident while driving. I cook several times a day, but have burned, stabbed and cut myself numerous times. I pet my cats every day, but sometimes misread or ignore their body language and get bitten during play.
I'm sure Steve set up the situation to be as safe as possible, but I just can't agree with using a one-month-old child as a prop in a stunt.
But I wholeheartedly agree with your earlier post about the media having a field day. It's been blown out of all proportion by the press.
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Originally posted by Miss Meow
I cook several times a day, but have burned, stabbed and cut myself numerous times.
Please stay out of the hospital....
their food sucks.
;)
As Senor Irwin walks his baby to the pond....Talk about unhygienic
acts...small kids do not have an bigger person's immunity to disease-- but I digress, an infection or disease isn't the same as getting eaten by a croc.
Watch his eyes in the tape......he is watching the croc, lest he mistake a one month old walking baby as a snack....
Another thing,
a one month old doesn't have the muscles to hold up his head while daddy makes them 'walk'.......That was another thing that bothered me...
:eek:
Look at the picture, tell how safe Steve himself looks, and remember even Even Irwin himself has admitted to having been injured "more times than you can poke a stick at", his words.
but terri was right there where she could grab him. it probly just looked like he was out there alone but hes usually not.
oh yeah and as for steve being injured, i'm sure he takes more risks when he doesn't have his kid with him:)
That picture looks pretty risky to me, and I am a mother and a grandmother. I would not, could not put any child in danger like that. There are many things that could have gone wrong, how much do you think it would take for that croc to knocked Steve to the ground baby and all? Look at how close he is to that croc.
He can put himself in danger all he wants to, but the child No! Just because he is a popular fellow, doesn't mean he should put a child in danger.
I always get a kick out of watching him myself, but being a mother, I just cannot condone this act at all! People are going to watch him whether he has the baby or not. So why not introduce Bob from the other side of the fence and be safe? Better to be safe than sorry.
Willie
Trayi, I'm pretty sure it's just the angle of that picture that makes the crocodile look so close. ;) I've seen other pictures where there's more of a distance between them and the crocodile.
I suppose it is just the instinct as a mother and a grandmother, there is no way on god's green earth that I would put any child that close to something that is so unpredictable. A wild animal of any kind is unpredictable.
They may look like old lazy crocodile just lying there, but they can move fast when the need comes and they are hungry enough.
I know when I sit my child down in front of a computer, the only thing to worry about is the computer crashing, I just do not believe the computer is suddenly going to jump up and take my child’s head off.
Just a thought, I wonder if you can tame a croc to lie down and let you give it scratch on its belly. Would you really want to chance it?
Even Irwin himself has admitted to having been injured "more times than you can poke a stick at". So how do you put a one-month-old baby in that danger? I am sorry, but I just cannot find any justification in this act at all. Do you think he let himself be injured or do you think the reason he was injured could be accidental? Always expect the unexpected! Nobody plans an accident, at least not most of us anyway.
Sorry but when it comes to a child’s life; I do not take chances at all. All I can say is let the child observe from a distance and then if, and I did say if he wants to work with the crocs when he is old enough to know, then fine. Babies are so innocent and helpless and they depend on us to keep them safe and out of danger.
To me that is one ugly picture of Irwin holding his baby and that rather huge Crocodile coming up to eat that little piece of chicken. Look at the picture and tell me if you can honestly say the baby was that safe, so many things could have happened. Irwin could have been knocked to the ground himself, then what? LOOK at the Picture....If it was close enough for him to drop the chicken into its mouth I would say that was too close for comfort.
I worry about everything my children does, and my grandchildren. I am just naturally like that. As you grow older, and you have children, you naturally see things going on that makes you hold your breath, if you suspect your child is in danger. Its just an instinct I suppose. You see your child or grandchild riding a bicycle too fast, and you just naturally get nervous for that childs safety, no matter what your child is doing and how old they get. They are always going to be your child, no matter how old they are. My oldest is 31 years old, he drove truck all over the United States, and I as his mother worried.
Roy Horn knew everything there was to know about tigers, but that didn't stop the unfortunate mauling.
Steve wasn't in a pit with a border collie or a lab. He was in a pit with an unpredictable wild animal. While I don't doubt that he would have thrown himself in front of the animal to save his son, it was still a stupid stunt (even though yes, the media is having a field day - probably because he's so unaplologetic about the whole thing and its a slow news day).
Catland, you are so right. He probably would have thrown himself in front of the Crocodile. I just wonder if that would have stopped the croc, from getting Bob, perhaps give enough time for somebody to swoop the baby up and taken it to safety?
I have been thinking about this subject and thread and the following question came to my mind.
We have all been discussing Steve Irwin and HIS SON.............
(was it dangerous, was it stupid, was he in control, was it safe?}
IF IT WAS YOUR ONE MONTH OLD SON.......WOULD YOU HAVE ALLOWED STEVE IRWIN TO DO THE SAME STUNT WITH HIM?
i know everyone has mixed feelings about this subject. but i would let Steve do the same thing with my son. i would take pics too, i think it would be a great experience. When i was a year old my mother let a man takepics of my with a lion. i was sitting with it!!! I still have the pic.
Isn't that like letting your son marry Brittney???:rolleyes: :eek: :D
His wife was just plain stupid!! If I was his wife, I think I would have said " You wanna do what? with MY son?" and smacked him up side the head!! She was as stupid as him, more so for letting him do it!
Jynnelle, you do not have children yet, so you don't understand how a mothers instinct is. When you mess with our children, we become as visious and a very angry Tiger. Sharp teeth, and very sharp claws!
Willie
Mr. Irwin ALMOST made it into the 'It WAS a good idea at the time Hall of Fame'
Current members-
Karl Wallenda, Dar Robinson, Houdini, John Denver,
Sonny Bono and Otto Lilienthal.
Thats tough "hall of fame" to get into, just look at what you have to do to get in there. You gotta be DEAD!!!;) :D
No way in hell.Quote:
Originally posted by gini
I have been thinking about this subject and thread and the following question came to my mind.
We have all been discussing Steve Irwin and HIS SON.............
(was it dangerous, was it stupid, was he in control, was it safe?}
IF IT WAS YOUR ONE MONTH OLD SON.......WOULD YOU HAVE ALLOWED STEVE IRWIN TO DO THE SAME STUNT WITH HIM?
Well, maybe the fact that Terri had no problems with Steve doing it proves something about the safety of the stunt, since she is a mother with that instinct.Quote:
Originally posted by trayi52
His wife was just plain stupid!! If I was his wife, I think I would have said " You wanna do what? with MY son?" and smacked him up side the head!! She was as stupid as him, more so for letting him do it!
Jynnelle, you do not have children yet, so you don't understand how a mothers instinct is. When you mess with our children, we become as visious and a very angry Tiger. Sharp teeth, and very sharp claws!
Willie
(BTW, Trayi, I've been trying and trying to email you to say thankyou, that av was perfect! I can't log in for some reason, so I'll PM you later :))
Hey, hey, you're speaking about my hero now ;) ;)Quote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
John Denver
Slick I like John Denver too! My daughter bought me his CD that has all his music.
Zan, thats great I am glad it worked for you, if you need anymore just let me know.
Willie
I am not upset with this incident that much. I am not as shocked as I was with the Michael Jackson incident.
Steve had the baby in the opposite arm away from the croc and he was poised in a position where he could quickly move if the croc made any advances. I'm sure the croc was more interested in the chicken than in Steve or the baby.
If Steve had the baby on the ground directly in front of the croc, or if he had the baby feeding the croc...that's a whole nother story...I'd be upset then.
Steve is a professional with years of experience under his belt...he is not insane like Michael...he knows what he is doing.
There are far worse things parents are doing to their kids in this world that people should be concerned about. At least he is not starving, beating, raping, murdering, etc his kids.
Just my lame $0.02
i saw the video and part of an interview with steve today and he wasn't standing THAT close to the croc adn there where tothe rpeople around off the carmera but ready to step in if anything happened. steve was almost speechless with fury that people actually think that he would put him child--the thing he loves most in the world in any kind of danger. atleast he's the kind of father that loves his kids and in involved with them! i think that comparing him to Barbie (MJ) is wrong. he had a reason for taking his kid out there. bob needs to get used to crocs at an early age. :)
Okay time for a laugh!! Take a look at this!
Maybe. I don't like kids.Quote:
Originally posted by gini
IF IT WAS YOUR ONE MONTH OLD SON.......WOULD YOU HAVE ALLOWED STEVE IRWIN TO DO THE SAME STUNT WITH HIM?
Just kidding folks! Sorry I couldn't resist! :p
But if I were Steve or his wife, and I knew enough about the animals to personally feel it was safe? Yeah, I might do it, too.
Willie, that's a frightening thing to be showing late at night, when I'm up all alone! :eek:
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Originally posted by micki76
Maybe. I don't like kids.
LOL,
Is it they might taste like chicken??;)
JMO the whole thing did not bother me that much, i an sure the man knew what he was doing and would have had Bob out of there in no time if he they got into trouble.
Micki, Richard too funny :D ;)