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Are all of you who are near the fires packing things up and loading your cars? I sure would be. I would be gathering up my pictures and things that can't be replaced and stuffing my car, just in case I had to leave. Of course my cats supplies would be included. If I leave my cats leave.Quote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
Also, it's the frustration of seeing your immediate world on fire.
All the families on my street (including me) have our cars packed with photos, important papers, etc. just in case we have to leave quickly.
Kona doesn't like the look of the porta-prison ready by the door! My sister had to come over and "kidnap" her on Sunday night, and Kona doesn't want that to happen again. :)
It takes something like this for the rest of us to realize that our problems might not be so bad after all.
Take care everyone - we're thinking of you.
http://www.canada.com/vancouver/stor...D-DC6C0DE9DFE7
Here's an article that appeared in today's local rag.
thanks slick....
and you know that our beloved governor won't ask for help....
:rolleyes:
Just found out the brother of a dear friend of mine lost his house. He, wife and three kids are living in a hotel. They live(d) in Scrip Ranch. Just last year when we were out there visiting he was telling about the addition he had just finished putting on his house.....They were given 10 minutes to evacuate and then it was all gone....:( :(
How very sad! My thoughts and prayers will be with them.Quote:
Originally posted by Edwina's Secretary
Just found out the brother of a dear friend of mine lost his house. He, wife and three kids are living in a hotel. They live(d) in Scrip Ranch. Just last year when we were out there visiting he was telling about the addition he had just finished putting on his house.....They were given 10 minutes to evacuate and then it was all gone....:( :(
A few sad stories..
Two women were hurt, one was killed, in a car accident as they tried to get horses out of the fire area in San Diego.
Another woman was burned when she fell coming out of her home as the fire neared the house. 15 dogs were lost in the kennel she kept at the residence...
16 people have died, over 1,300 houses lost - the area burned in all the fires has equaled the area of the State of Rhode Island.
The smoke from the San Bernardino Fire has blotted out 2/3s of the sky over the City of LA..
One great story was a fireman calling a local radio station to let us know that 30 fire fighters had VOLUNTEERED to come down and help out. They were in the process of driving a brush rig 750
miles from Medford, Oregon to Los Angeles.
There we also reports of rigs making their way from the Las Vegas
FD..
prayers to everyone in and around the fire zones.
http://www.kfmb.com/ http://www.thesandiegochannel.com/index.html These are two San Diego Channels, 8 and 10 (CBS and ABC), that have several links to show what's going on.
For those who don't know San Diego, I-8 is the main east-west freeway through the mid area of town, with 52 a little farther north running e-w and 94 a little farther south, also e-w. Main North-South freeways are I-5 farthest west, then 163, 805 and I-15 (furthest east.) Sandy lives in Point Loma, nearest the beach and I live in the very mid-city community of North Park. Jackie is farther south and east of me.
The main fires burning are about 15 mi north near the city of Escondido, south of hear in Otay and just north of me the San Diego communities of Tierra Santa and a little farther up the I-15 is the San Diego community of Scripps Ranch. This is just east-north of Miramar (MCAS) which also had fires. Then there is buring east and north of here (North Park) - Alpine, Julian, beautiful rural communities in the Laguna Mountains. What seems to beIf this link works, this little explanation may explain where we are in relation to the fires.
The extreme buring pattern had a lot to do with the prevailing Santa Ana winds, which we get regularly. They are dry and strong winds that blow from the n-e, and with the fire, they caused a lot of sparking from site to site, and caused the massive smoke clouds.
On sunday, the sky never got any lighter than a late afternoon/early evening light all day. It is very unhealthy out where I am, soot was on and in everything Sunday and Monday, and now smoke is leaving a fine dust all over.
Evacuees were with my next door neighbor, my friends chose ths shelter for access to services and information. Two friends from work lost homes in Scripps Ranch, I just heard. It's heart sickening.
I was out sick Monday from a soot and smoke induced sinus attack.
Well, these links can take you developing news, if you want to check them out from time to time. If you get a chance, look for the "map" that shows how much of the city was burning - It's amazing!!
Thank you all so much for the kind thoughts.
Thanks for all
I thought of you first when they said "San Diego" and "fire" and hoped you would be safe. Paul and I had such a nice time visiting with you and Don and Daisy and Perry, of course. I am glad you are all safe, and being careful with the smokey air and all that!Quote:
Originally posted by jackiesdaisy1935
It seems the whole of San Diego has been burning. Just a tragic thing to happen. Over 260,000 acres have burned, over I believe 300 homes and possibly 11 to 13 people have died. Many of them in their car trying to outrun the fire. Two elderly people jumped in their swimming pool to save their lives. They are finding charred pets in the burned out homes, and they are trying to find any animal that is loose and scared. There are many, many evacuation areas for people to go to.
We live about two or three miles from the bay and lots of green around us, the closest fire to us is the Otay Lakes fire which is about 15 miles from us, but no worry here.
Our daughter Lorie is in New York with her husband visiting his parents and her neighbor called us to say they were being evacuated, so our family went to her house met Jeff's swat team friend and they broke into the house and saved as many valuables and brought all of their vehicles to our house. They finally let everyone back into San Carlos and they are due home today so it turned out o.k.
Our older daughter has her stepdaughter, grandaughter and husband as they were also evacuated from Kearney mesa.
The ash is horrible, you can see it falling like snow.
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Our dogs are fine, we kept them inside and only brought them out to do their duty, things are looking much better now, we can actually see the sun, yesterday the day was like night.
Jackie, Perry and Daisy
Do say hello to Daisy for Paul, and Perry gets extra skritches from me, okay? (Each dog decided which of us h/she liked when we visited!)
Be careful, be safe, all of you anywhere near the fires. Air quality is so important, so stay inside 'til they give the all clear if you can - you don't want to be breathing that ash!
Ash falling like snow, how very scary!
Hope the weather co-operates and the fires are contained soon. You'll all be in our prayers.
So far, Channel 10 has raised (at last count) $1.7 million dollars for victim relief, from corporate donations to $34.00 raised by two little girls who sold cookies.
No matter where in the world tragedy hits, there is a beauty in the human spirit that does rise above and shine.
KOHALA thanks for all the useful information and the news link.
YES!
Sandy Frost;)
I have been thinking of you all over here in Aussie.
It is hard for me to figure out exactly who would be affected ...... so, prayers and best wishes to all Californians.
It is coming into fire season here in Aussie, I know how bad it gets here, and only wish a speedy RAINFALL on California ..
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Oregon Humane Society in Portland is sending an Animal Rescue Team of three people. They have credentials and training for rescuing animals in the fire areas.Quote:
Originally posted by slick
Does anyone know if there are animal rescue groups out there rescuing pets??
Wow! It just amazes me how quickly things can turn upside down!
Thank you so much for those links Kohala.
Everyone be safe! *hugs*
This image... I'm just speechless. :(
http://www.kfmb.com/misc/sd_fires_20...al_map_new.jpg
This morning the Cedar fire is still burning much of the east county. It moved out of the areas of Tierrasanta and Scripps Ranch on Monday, yet much of the news coverage is still focusing on those areas--which is frustrating. It is difficult to find accurate information about the active fire in Descanso and Julian.
The communities of Crest and Harbison Canyon (in the east near El Cajon) burned on Sunday night and Monday, and the homeowners there had very little warning. By the time they found out the fire was coming toward them, it was too close to have time to pack. About 300 homes were lost, and there are many horses in the area.
You asked about rescue for the animals: The SD Humane Society has a rescue program, as do many other organizations. Here's one Web site: http://www.sdhumane.org/howyoucanhelp/fire.cfm
I live in Rancho San Diego, which is very close to Crest, Dehesa, and El Cajon. Kohala's explanation of the area was great--thanks!
Thanks for the note Karen, we are doing fine, Don put a wet bandanna over his nose and mouth and tried cleaning up some of the ash all over the place, it's everywhere. He finally gave up and I got him inside.
Yes, Daisy loves the men and really took to Paul, lol and Perry is a ladies man so naturally he gravitated to you, lol. Daisy is still her independent self under all circumstances, nothing seems to bother her, but Perry has been very nervous, I guess he can smell the smoke.
We have a little mountain town called Julian and it has been there for years and years. People go up there in the fall for the apple pies and they have a lot of antiques and shops, the firemen are inside the town with fire surrounding them and have vowed to save the town, but I hope at no loss of life. We do now have firemen here from all over the country, New Mexico, Arizona, all over California, and they said they are ready to fight this fire.
These firemen are exhausted, it's amazing what one can do under stress.
Jackie
Jackie, I'm glad to here you are all safe. I heard on the news this morning about the firemen hunkering down in Julian trying to save it. They said so far they were holding their own.Quote:
Originally posted by jackiesdaisy1935
Thanks for the note Karen, we are doing fine, Don put a wet bandanna over his nose and mouth and tried cleaning up some of the ash all over the place, it's everywhere. He finally gave up and I got him inside.
Yes, Daisy loves the men and really took to Paul, lol and Perry is a ladies man so naturally he gravitated to you, lol. Daisy is still her independent self under all circumstances, nothing seems to bother her, but Perry has been very nervous, I guess he can smell the smoke.
We have a little mountain town called Julian and it has been there for years and years. People go up there in the fall for the apple pies and they have a lot of antiques and shops, the firemen are inside the town with fire surrounding them and have vowed to save the town, but I hope at no loss of life. We do now have firemen here from all over the country, New Mexico, Arizona, all over California, and they said they are ready to fight this fire.
These firemen are exhausted, it's amazing what one can do under stress.
Jackie
There was one town where one house remained untouched by the fire and every one around it was burned to the ground. So sad.
Prayers still with all of you out there.
Jackie, Kohala, Kona and Oreo's Mom, it was good to hear that all of you are safe.
My nephew works at Scripps in La Jolla and I was worried about him too.
Our poor pets - they just must be kept indoors away from the bad air quality and soot.
Big hugs to all of you and I hope you continue to stay safe as well as your families.
Gini
http://landsat7.usgs.gov/gallery/index.php
This is another link that will show you how many fires were burning on October 26th - before they got out of control.
For those interested ~
Here are a few of the many Dozens of web sites that are available. They are provided by the State and Federal Agencies charged with Firefighting - not only in California, but in most of the other states in the West and Southwest.
Most of the sites have extensive *click-links* to other sites in a vast network - you could spend hours reading the information presented.
The "Old Fire" (San Bernardino National Forrest) =
"Old Fire" main page
Forest Service Southwest Region - LINKS in upper right corner to
the major fires...
Region Home - LINKS to Major Cal. Fire Pages
National Interagency Fire Center (Boise, Idaho)
"Fire News Page" has LINKS to the major fires {scroll down} and
recent short updates on progress =
NIFC - Fire News Page
Many of these sites have extensive Photo Libraries with hundreds of
photos of Mum Nature at work...
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Animal Rescues...
MSNBC.com has a nice article on rescuing Horses and other critters...
MSNBC - Animal Rescues
All you Folks on the Left Coast be careful & stay SAFE!
/s/ Phred
THANKS FOR THE AWESOME PHOTOS.
We're all safe in San Diego.
Saqndy Frost;)
I saw some blue sky today at work. That was encouraging. It's actually cool tonight, and predictions are for drizzle. I hope it drizzles farther north and east, though. They need it now. And Mexico has suffered these fires, too.
Julian was saved. But so much beautiful forest has been lost. And the homes . . .
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Originally posted by kohala
Julian was saved. But so much beautiful forest has been lost. And the homes . . .
.....and the fireman from Novato, CA who lost his life.........and three firemen who have been severely burned.
It is all so scary and tragic. My thoughts and prayers are of, and for, all members of pet talk and their families, along with all Califonians. My heart goes out to you all.
Hugs
Chris
My family lost their cabin. :( We were to go there for Christmas, but now it's gone. :(
I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Was it in Cuyamaca?Quote:
Originally posted by luckies4me
My family lost their cabin. :( We were to go there for Christmas, but now it's gone. :(
I saw an interview with one of the firemen this morning. He looked so tired and his eyes were so sad, it brought tears to my eyes. I wished I could give him a hug, a hot meal, rest, and lots of rain.
People in the Porter Ranch area opened their homes to the firefighters for showers, meals and coffee.:)Quote:
Originally posted by momoffuzzyfaces
I saw an interview with one of the firemen this morning. He looked so tired and his eyes were so sad, it brought tears to my eyes. I wished I could give him a hug, a hot meal, rest, and lots of rain.
It was sprinkling this morning on the way to work.
Thanks for the rain dance.
To change the subject slightly-COLORADO is under siege from a wildfire too.....
Time to keep them in our thoughts.
To tell you the truth I have no idea where it is, but they go there often. I haven't been able to see it, since they got it after I moved here to Oregon. I never got to see it. :( That really bums me out! :mad: Sometimes I wish I didn't move away because I miss everything!Quote:
Originally posted by Kona & Oreo's mom
I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Was it in Cuyamaca?
Here are some e-mail addresses about the SAN DIEGO fires I got from a friend .
American Red Cross-www.redcross.org/services/diaster/0,1080,0 594,00
www.sdarc.orc/diaster/residenttiallfires.asp
www.diasterrelief.org
Sandy Frost;)
pisssed off..
I came home last night and saw on one of the tabloid shows
that the host, Bob Goen (?), was sent, by helicopter to see if his vacation property was still standing-It was located somewhere
in the Lake Arrowhead area.....
The co-host teased the end of the report by saying that they would show what he found on tonight's show.
Some people will not be able to get back into the area until next Tuesday, yet, they trivialize the whole story by renting a chopper to see it this tool's place is still standing and make it a story on his show...
Would it help Richard, if we were to find out what channel, what time it was on, what station, and then write them to say what incredible poor taste it was for them to do that?
I have a friend who has owned a cabin forever. Now there is no cabin and she isn't laughing.
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Originally posted by gini
Would it help Richard, if we were to find out what channel, what time it was on, what station, and then write them to say what incredible poor taste it was for them to do that?
I have a friend who has owned a cabin forever. Now there is no cabin and she isn't laughing.
WORKING ON IT!
ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT -CBS
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My family lost their cabin. :( We were to go there for Christmas, but now it's gone. :(
Well if anyone didn't notice, we just lost OUR cabin! That guy can go kiss my A$$. I am sure he has enough money to buy another one, my family doesn't. I posted on another forum and didn't get even ONE fricking reply! :mad: :mad: :mad: No one said sorry or anything. I don't understand people. :confused:
My family just bought this cabin and now it is gone! I didn't even get to see it. Do you know what an accomplisment it was to get this, to even have had my family buy a house????????? a BIG one! There is NO way we can replaces this cabin, none. We don't have all the money in the world to just go buy another. This Christmas I would have seen it for the first time, and spent time there with my family, now there is nothing. :( :( :( You don't understand how sad this makes me.
I saw your post, Cass, and I am so sorry for the loss. :( Sorry I didn't respond earlier. I simply don't know what to say. Much of California has lost so much. :( :(
letter to KCBS, where I saw the ET program.
I happened on the ET program on October 30 and saw that one
of the co-hosts, Bob Goen was choppering over the sight of his vacation home that was ravaged by the recent SoCal fires.
He was looking to see if his vacation home was still standing.
After the clip of Goen in the chopper, Mary Hart teased the end of the 'report' for tonight, 10/31.
I am amazed that they would trivialize and tease a 'report' like that when there are people who will not be able to enter the area until early next week.
Of course, such a loss of a home is very sad and has an impact on the owner, I thought the
whole idea of flying a reporter from an entertainment program over the site to check on his home is tasteless and shows the depths
that some producers will stoop to to get 'a story'.
Journalistic integrity always
implies that a reporter not become part of the story..
Mr. Goen is no reporter nor is he a journalist.
Entertainment shows are just that, entertainment- they should keep entertaining and
leave the news to the news departments.
I do feel badly for Mr. Goen and the possiblity that he may have lost his property, but to turn it into a piece on the program is absurd and
so lacking taste I felt the need to communicate that to your station.
Thank You
luckies4me, I do understand your pain, and I assure you that I realize that every loss from these fires is significant and painful. I tried to express that:Quote:
Originally posted by luckies4me
Well if anyone didn't notice, we just lost OUR cabin!
Perhaps I could have expressed myself better. I hope that you and your family will have access to the FEMA assistance that is offered to help the victims of these fires recover. Of course, that doesn't help with the sentimental loss; that no one can replace. My thoughts are with you.Quote:
Originally posted by Kona & Oreo's mom
I'm so sorry to hear of your loss.