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Wow, just what I wanted to suggest. Can you ask in advance to tape it? I know my memory's not that great any more, and especially when I'm emotionally involved...Quote:
Originally posted by rosethecopycat
...Sounds like they wish to be thorough. Can you tape record her visit? (like at a doctors?) It can free up your mind from having to keep notes.
Everything's crossed here!
Maybe you could even tape Ti and/or Miley between now and the 7th...
Good luck! Fingers and paws crossed here.
I stopped at the post office this morning, and sure enough, there was the questionaire. I haven't opened it, as I am taking 1/2 vacation this afternoon and will read it then.
I will tape Ti's very annoying howling that he does when he doesn't get his way. It is usually when he is waiting by a closed door! Ahem. It is enough to drive you crazy so I can see why Miley gets so un-nerved by his being in the house!
You know, this morning, while playing with Juni and petting poor Ms. Miley, I was thinking that maybe Ti belongs in another house, with other pets. I will certainly give him the benefit of the doubt, but I won't put any money on the behaviorist! I surely hope it works, but Ti is a Bengal and they are quite stubborn!
I will let you know what kind of questions I will need to answer before their visit.
I am hoping that whatever information I can gather, I will share it with all of you and help everyone/anyone who wants to listen!
I am thinking about taping the meeting with the behaviorist, at least the part that I participate in. I suspect she will play with the cats too!
Later - busy day ahead of me.
SAS
I've noticed that my Abys, past and present, although very active and rambunctious, are vocally quiet cats. They even fight (which they have been doing of late) quietly. You hear the bodies thunking on the floor as they roll around, but rarely are there any yowls, yells or squawks. I've never heard them howl. Bodhi usually communicates with little chirps. Maya meows assertively. I immediatlely respond so as not to annoy my little dictator.Quote:
Originally posted by sasvermont
I will tape Ti's very annoying howling that he does when he doesn't get his way. It is usually when he is waiting by a closed door! Ahem. It is enough to drive you crazy so I can see why Miley gets so un-nerved by his being in the house!
SAS
They also don't like noise. We have had a major renovation next door in our semi detached house since November and it's been very, very noisy as they gutted the house. The cats have become very jumpy and I've just about had it too with all the banging and sawing...argh.
Waiting for your update. Poor Miley, poor Ti.
Oh yes! Please do! I'm sure your experience can only be a help to someone else who may be facing something similar. Also, if you let us know what questions are on the questionaire, someone here might remember something you had mentioned that might be of help and that you might have forgotten. Just a suggestion though, knowing how we all want to do whatever we can to help this work out for you. You've all been through so much and we just want our Happy Camp Vermont back for you. :)Quote:
Originally posted by sasvermont
I am hoping that whatever information I can gather, I will share it with all of you and help everyone/anyone who wants to listen!
I am thinking about taping the meeting with the behaviorist, at least the part that I participate in. I suspect she will play with the cats too!
I took a half day of vacation today. I spent time with Miley, on the bed and re-examined her as I thought she seemed to be limping. Well...... I found a nasty hole in her leg. I called the vet and the vet is not around until the 24th! I will give her some antibiotics I have here and clean the wound! How could I have missed it before? She isn't touching it...but it does look like it is beginning to get infected. I put peroxide on it....and began some meds. I will be home all weekend and will keep a very, very close eye on her. It looks at though Ti yanked a wad of fur and flesh right out of her. Makes me want to give Ti away, like right this very minute!
I rec'd the application/questionaire and it is several pages long. I will have to copy it at work, as I think I have two cats with problems and they sent me only one questionaire for one cat!
I can't tell you how upset I am to find that hole in Miley's hind quarters! Poor baby. By the way, it looks much like the nasty hot spots she has had in the past, except it is obviously a hole rather than just an sore spot.
Ugh.
Thanks for listening.
Off to a baby sitting evening for some friends.
Later,
SAS
Poor you and Miley. Regarding the hole in her leg. I've seen this before when a cat have been in a fight with another cat. The bite or claw mark heals over so you don't notice it at the time but then festers and pops a week later, removing fur and leaving the nasty hole that you describe.
Sometimes we would notice the swelling from the festering and applied hot compresses to them to get all of the infection out and they've healed up just fine. Only once have I had one that wasn't healing so good (on Sids tail), and I brought him into the vet for some antibiotics. Even then the vet said that it was healing as it should and the antibiotics were merely a precaution.
SAS I know I shouldn't be trying to influence you in any way because the decision you make is one that you will live with and I would hate to be responsible for causing you to act or not to act. That said, if I was in your shoes I think Miley's injury would cause me to throw in the towel. This bothers me even more than the poopie picture of the other day. Poor little Miley! I can't even begin to imagine how the behaviorist could change the climate at Camp Vermont. I think these two are like oil and water - never gonna mix. :( :( (((hugs to Miley girl)))
Poor Miley, I hope her wound heals quickly. Is there an alternative vet you could call if you need to? It looks like the cat behaviorist will have to work miracles. The situation with Ti may be just too much for Miley, she must be miserable. My nephew has a bengal, so I know they can be difficult. Meanwhile, how is our little Junie Rose doing?
It isn't over until the fat lady sings (or the behaviorist visits), may she/he perform a small double miracle in the SAS household. :D
Oh, I just saw this!!! What wonderful news ... I think this is the answer for you, Sally Anne!!! Hang in there!:D
Hang in there Sas. I would just watch Miley's leg and see how it goes.
I am sure the behaviourist can help. I totally believe in miracles :D
Sas,
I totally agree with Pam on this one. If Miley did suffer another
attack so bad as to rip a chunk of flesh off her leg, it's time to
raise the white flag & re-home one of these cats. The Behaviorist
will surely be able to tell you why this is happening, but change
Miley's mind about Ti? I don't think it'll ever happen. Better give
poor Miley that gun after all. :)
mew, me-eow you are my kind of purrson! KatMa wishes you success with the purrkids.
Mew, I should talk! No matter what KatMa & Paw-Paw did I refused, absolutely refused to get along with the late Tiggy & the late Princess!!
So, KatMa just separated us. Worked well. The computer is downstairs & so is Paw-Paw's TVroom/office so I always had my very own time with my purrents...
KatMa told me if the house were a bungalow, I would have HAD TO ADJUST, period! Mew, mew KatMa said her plan would be me in one room with a floor to ceiling screen door installed. The other two would free-roam the Palace & we could all spit & hiss until we just accepted each other.
That may have worked, but mew-mew, who knows?
Miley girl I am so sorry that you now end up really hurt. I hope your little leg will heal soon. I am also a little shocked -I also think that Ti thinks Miley is prey and that really worries me.
I also agree: the character of Bengals to me does not seem as defined as it is with an old breed. If I look at our Abys here we all would agree they are different purrsonalities but they also have a common character of the breed.
I wish you all the best and a good time for everyone until Ms. Cat Whisperer arrives. :) :D
And some extrakissies for my Miley girl :)
I found a substitute vet for Miley. Her wound looks different today, and I didn't get much sleep last night, trying to make sure she wouldn't lick it all night long! It might just be a hot spot, I am not sure.
Miley's appetite has picked up, as she was not eating much these past few days. She has been using the scratching post again and seems to be in better spirits. Maybe the antibiotics have helped.
Ti is on my "other" list. Juni is just fine and one happy little girl. She is playing in a pile of clothes to be washed, as I type this! What a cutie pie Ms. Juni turned out to be......And Miley likes her too.
Pam, I hear you! If Ti didn't have such a "Mr. Dumb Dumb" look and appeal to him, he would be gone. He is NOT a bad cat. He listens to me, he loves Juni and I just think he is out of control with Miley. It may never be able to be changed. I have to prepare myself for that. You want him? :D
I am sure Miley will be fine..... I will let you folks know what the Vet has said, when I return in a couple of hours.
Love,
SAS
P. S. Barbara, the bengal and aby breeders all agree that abys and bengals make good companions. It is not common for bengals to be aggressive. They are shy cats - and Ti is shy. He also has the big bully in him, which is what I am attempting to deal with....... I feel as though I am trying to put a square peg in a round hole!
Free: One Bengal Cat!
After spending quite a bit of time cleaning the wound, the Vet decided to knock her out, put in a drain and keep her for the weekend. I think the Vet could see by the expressions on my face, that I was not a good candiate to do the daily wound washing etc. It was really gross. Lots of infection and dead muscle. I nearly passed out as he was cleaning it and flushing it.
She will be on two different antibiotics, have the drain in....and I will pick her up on Monday morning. He said he thought she would be fine. I feel fine with his assessment too. She was in good spirits, eating and jumping around, so whatever nasty puncture wound she has, it isn't bothering her that much.
The vet said it had absessed...(sp?)......and that he thought sure that it was a bite/wound. I was hoping it was a hot spot.
Juni and Ti will have a fun weekend. I am going to try to relax - and have positive thoughts about Ms. Miley girl.
She was very good for the vet, by the way. They fell in love with her right away. She was clinging to the vet tech when I left her, just like a baby would do, over the shoulder and her paws around the tech's neck. So cute.
:( Poor Miley, my heart goes out to her. I am still trying to remain positive about the behaviourist helping the situation but if it can't be helped you truly will have done ALL that was humanely possible for this situation. Ti is young enough to re-adjust. Miley loves you dearly and will heal physically and emotionally.
Miley has "several' puncture wounds and they have cleaned them all. I will talk with the Vet again on Monday.
Right now Ti and Juni are playing like two kittens. I just don't get this problem except that not all cats gel and it seems that Ti and Miley do not gel at all.
Poor, poor Miley girl. I wonder why I was not able to detect the wounds? Yikes. I feel like such a bad Mom.
I am going to call the original breeder today and talk about this problem. I will again, offer him back to her.
I feel so horrible about Ms. Miley. She is such a sweet thing and to have to go through this is so awful.
Thanks for listening.
SAS
:eek: Oh my I didn't expect this and I'm sure you didn't either. It sounds like Miley will be fine at the vets and I am so glad. No wonder they fell in love with her. I am in love with her and have never seen her in person (or, should I say, "in cat") :D
You certainly have put your heart and soul into this whole thing (not to mention your wallet! :eek: ). Maybe Miley will benefit from this period of R & R away from Ti!
Oh my this story needs close following. Never a dull minute! ((((Hugs to you SAS. What a topsy turvey journey you are on!))))
Now we know why Miley was so tired and depressed afterwards. That was a real fight! I'm so sorry and know you'll find the right answers.Quote:
Originally posted by sasvermont
Miley has "several' puncture wounds.
I feel so horrible about Ms. Miley. She is such a sweet thing and to have to go through this is so awful.
Do keep in mind, dear heart, that if you need to rehome Ti, I'm sure someone within the Pet Talk family will be able to help.
Poor poor dear Miley-girl. It's sad that while they both love Juni, they don't realize that means they should tolerate each other. Sigh.
Mine too.Quote:
Originally posted by lailamara
:( Poor Miley, my heart goes out to her. .
Oh no! Thats terrible. That big bully Ti *grumps*. My heart and lots of lovely healing energy go to you and Miley. I am sure she will make a full recovery. Are you going to see a behaviourist for yourself Sas?
I don't know how you do it! I would be checking myself in for a weekend Vet check.
Sas, I can't believe what has happened at your house this week!:(
I am sorry for everything you are going through with your cats and I am sorry that I didn't see your PM from this morning until now.:(
I see you started another thread about Ti going to a new home tomorrow so I will go read that next then answer your PM.
Oh no, poor Miley girl - several puncture wounds? That is not good at all.
And you don't need to feel bad about not detecting them SAS, I've heard that cat wounds often times heal up very quickly on the surface, then sometimes they get infected and do the abcess thing because all they yucky stuff didn't get a chance to get cleaned out before the surface healed over, which must be what happened with the one on her leg that you did notice.
I'm off to see your other thread too......