I could find out but what is a SAR dog?
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I could find out but what is a SAR dog?
Search And Rescue.Quote:
Originally posted by allanimalswelcome
I could find out but what is a SAR dog?
:)
Oh I see, animals help save lives but apparently that is cruel:rolleyes:
I'll do a search and report on this isssue.
~Rachel
Sorry I couldn't find anything on it.
I tried looking it up on the PETA website but it seems that their search egine is real bad.
~Rachel~
dear rachel, thanks for checking on that story for me. i'd heard it in those awful first days after the attacks.
PETA started out as a decent, mainstream (well, fairly mainstream anyway) organization. However, times have changed and the new management of PETA is WAY out there.
Ingrid Newkirk is a very strange, dangerous and morally bankrupt person. Yes, PETA is opposed to the use of SAR dogs. PETA supporters are the great ball-of-fire winners who release tropical monkeys from scientific labs into the streets of cities in the winter, and break into hotel rooms and campers, steal show dogs and release them into traffic in New York City.
They oppose the ownership of pets, period. They feel that riding a horse is just as "horrible" as putting chemicals into a rabbits eyes for an experiment. I will look and find a quote by Newkirk that just sums it all up .... in effect, she says that she doesn't care if it takes just one lab rats life to find a cure for cancer, or one lab mouse to save your father's life - that it would not be worth it. Ummm .... hello.
They also spend a vast amount of their money supporting, basically, domestic terrorism. They fund eco-terrorists and animal rights terrorists, such as ALF, who use tactics such as fire-bombing stores that sell fur, etc. PETA spends a lot of money on the legal defense of those charged with domestic terrorism as well. Sorry, I don't want my money going to buy gasoline to make fire-bombs to throw through glass windows, or to pay a lawyer to defend these charmers, no matter what the cause.
Keep in mind, animals RIGHTS in not at all the same thing as animal WELFARE. Loving and respecting animals is animals welfare. Believing that animals should have the same rights as human beings ... the right never to be leashed, owned, ridden or eaten ... that is animal rights. I'm a firm believer in animal welfare. I think even if you are eventually going to eat that chicken, you should make sure it is comfortable and happy before it is eaten. But I don't believe in animal rights ... I don't necesarily think the chicken has the same rights that you or I do. We are omnivores by nature, we eat meat. If one choses not to eat meat, good for them. I think that's fine. My brother was a vegetarian for decades, and I was proud of him. However, if one choses to eat meat, I think that is fine as well. Humans are not, by nature, vegetarians.Quote:
Okay first I am all for animal rights. Ask anyone I know and they will tell you I am in love with absolutly every animal and respect them.
Yiiiipppppeeee....Hooooraaaayyyyy....someone who was able to put it all in a very concise nutshell! Love what you said and support it all the way.
Thank you:D :D :D
Denyce
I lump PETA in with the Humane Society as "places that want to ban the captive keeping of reptiles". Neither organization will ever get any money/support from me again.
I think animals have rights but I'm not crazy like PETA. Leashes and such are benificial to an animal just as a cane or a wheelchair is benificial to a person. A wheelchair helps someone get around without killing themselves. It applies to leashes.
I am appauled by PETA's behavior. They are obviously nuts. They have no respect for anyone with different opinoinsm, such as show dogs.
Frankly I am also VERY surprised. That girl in my class is in for a harsh awakening. She planned to show her dog...
I sincerly hope in the next years or so PETA will fail so that the rest of the REAL organizations can operate in peace.
~Rachel
I new slogan for PETA
"People Exhibiting a Terrble threat to Animals"
So I used more letters then P.E.T.A. you get the picture.
~Rache
I still think People Eating Tasty Animals is good! lol
I like yours too though.
Yea maybe I should send the name suggestions to PETA?
~Rachel
PETA has lost credibility. Any organization that goes fanatic is not existing in the real world. Existing in the real world is about compromise. It is completely appropriate (in my opinion, of course!) to protest against "inhumane" practices. But the rub is, "inhumane" is a moving target.
FWIW: Here are my opinions on specific issues.
1. Being omnivorous (I am): I like meat and make no apologies for this. I attempt to purchase it from properly raised animals. It's better for the animal and for the person who ultimately eats it.
2. Furs: I think we would be better off with the very high quality synthetics, but fur that doesn't come from endangered species is less objectionable.
3. Animal testing (medical): This is THE LAW! The FDA, ever since 1938, has required safety testing of all drugs which are intended to be used for humans and animals to be toxicalogically tested.
(BTW, there are VERY strict rules, at least where I work, about the care of lab animals. For example, the protocol for dogs and primates is that they must "have a mentally stimulating environment.")
4. Animal testing (cosmetic): should be VERBOTEN! I think humans should use these things at their own risk.
JMHO...
Smokey
smokey the elder,
Well you have one out of the 4 right. ;)
Thank you!
I agree with everything you said. PETA is whacked and it is loosing support.
I eat organic meat which is better then eating factory farmed. The animals are healthier therefor the meat is healtheir.
I do not particualry like fur but many people do not where it anymore so that's something.
~Rachel
My thoughts EXACTLY!Quote:
Originally posted by smokey the elder
FWIW: Here are my opinions on specific issues.
1. Being omnivorous (I am): I like meat and make no apologies for this. I attempt to purchase it from properly raised animals. It's better for the animal and for the person who ultimately eats it.
2. Furs: I think we would be better off with the very high quality synthetics, but fur that doesn't come from endangered species is less objectionable.
3. Animal testing (medical): This is THE LAW! The FDA, ever since 1938, has required safety testing of all drugs which are intended to be used for humans and animals to be toxicalogically tested.
(BTW, there are VERY strict rules, at least where I work, about the care of lab animals. For example, the protocol for dogs and primates is that they must "have a mentally stimulating environment.")
4. Animal testing (cosmetic): should be VERBOTEN! I think humans should use these things at their own risk.
JMHO...
Smokey
I said my piece on the serial cat killer thread about PETA! They were in my will-not anymore-I'm of sound mind and body and they ain't gettin'any of my money!!
And some people wondered why I liked moving away from the Norfolk, VA area... PETA just ruins everything. They bother people at concerts, they are rude, and they are too over the top.
This is just a situation that happened to a friend of mine. It was during the PETA campaign against McDonald's treatment of cows or something. My friend was driving to McDonald's with her 4 year old daughter. The kid was sleeping. They pulled up to the McDonalds and some people were doing a protest. This crazy guy dressed as a butcher weilding a huge fake machete (sword looking blade), covered in blood, ran up swinging the thing next to her car and scared the heck out of her daughter. When my friend tried to say that they shouldn't have done that, what did they do? Did they say "Sorry, didn't mean to frighten your kid"? No, they called her a "conservative meat eating b**ch" in front of her child.
I miss my family who still live in the Norfolk area, but I most certainly do not miss PETA. I love where I live now, the area is very pet friendly.
I can tell you where that fake machete would end up if they came at my car like that ................ :mad:
:rolleyes: :eek: - well, I CAN'T TELL you, but I am sure you get the picture.
God I hate PETA. So sad less and less people are taking them seriously...NOT:DQuote:
This is just a situation that happened to a friend of mine. It was during the PETA campaign against McDonald's treatment of cows or something. My friend was driving to McDonald's with her 4 year old daughter. The kid was sleeping. They pulled up to the McDonalds and some people were doing a protest. This crazy guy dressed as a butcher weilding a huge fake machete (sword looking blade), covered in blood, ran up swinging the thing next to her car and scared the heck out of her daughter. When my friend tried to say that they shouldn't have done that, what did they do? Did they say "Sorry, didn't mean to frighten your kid"? No, they called her a "conservative meat eating b**ch" in front of her child.
~Rachel
Dear PETA,
I am deeply sorry to report this but someone had to.
It seems you are loosing audience. From releasing tropical monkeys into the streets of New York, to choosing to ask people to vote for "Sexiest Vegean Alive" instead of reporting on the Colorado cat killings, to approving the killing of pit bulls your attitude does not impress people anymore. You, PETA, could easily help change the way animals are treated today yet instead you choose to change Wisconsin's state drink.
You request $16.00 to stay a member. I have found most of the money you get goes as profits for the people at PETA. You could easily help out those animal sancutaries who would love to build on to their facilities or help any other organization for animal rights. Instead you choose to keep it for yourself.
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news PETA but someone had to tell you.
Sincerely,
Rachel
*This was sent into an email*
one of the funniest encounters i had with an 'animal rights/PETA' person was when the Olympic torch stopped off at the L A Coliseum before it went on to Utah.
there were people who had signs contesting the use of animals at the Olympics, apparently rodeo is/was being considered as a possible discipline.
when the gal came up to me and wanted to give me a pamphlet i explained to her that I LIKE THE RODEO..and what did the winter olympics have to do with animals??????
needless to say, when her male partner came around, with her in tow, i gave him the same line,
i then pointed to his lady friend and said, 'Ask her, I LIKE THE RODEO.'
my friend wasn't pleased about me taunting them but hey, aren't we all animals???
From PETA's site...
"We have found people do pay more attention to our racier actions, and we consider the public’s attention to be extremely important. Sometimes this requires tactics—like naked marches and colourful ad campaigns—that some people find outrageous or even “rude”; part of our job is to shake people up and even shock them in order to initiate discussion, debate, questioning of the status quo, and, of course, action. "
So they think people will pay more attention to animal liberation if they post a photo of a naked women on their website?!? That's disgusting. If they want to "shock" the viewers of their website why don't they list stats of how many homeless animals are euthanized in shelters each year.... SOMETHING LIKE THAT... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: People visiting that website are probably already animal lovers, they don't need to see sexy women to convince them to "take action" :rolleyes:
You hit the mark on that one!
God I hate PETA
~Rachel
No kidding ... I always wondered about that. I think PETA needs some new marketing people, because I don't think they are hitting their target audience. I'm thinking that they people who are searching the internet for pictures of half-naked women wrapped in lettuce leaves are NOT the same group of people who are going to be interested in a vegetarian, animal-rights lifestyle. I think the guys staring at the lettuce ladies won't have a clue about which organization or agenda was being promoted. ;)Quote:
So they think people will pay more attention to animal liberation if they post a photo of a naked women on their website?!?
Agreed!
Still haven't got an email back from PETA.
Perhaps they are busy planning a boycott towards Pet Talk for encouraging owning pets:rolleyes:
~Rachel